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AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.

383 replies

fruitandbarley · 16/06/2026 21:36

After decades of disappointment I've pretty much given up on watching England with any hope.

I have Scottish in laws and love the place anyway but after seeing all the videos of the tartan army in Boston I'd so love for them to win ( however unlikely that may be!)

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countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:53

Secretseverywhere · 17/06/2026 23:13

I always feel so sorry for England with comments like this. They win one game and people (especially the media) have them going all the way. So then there’s the (almost inevitable) crushing defeat when they lose.

No need to feel sorry for us sweetie….

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 07:55

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:51

Oh, so you didn’t celebrate the Scottish win?
Rest my case.
lots of happy people at work this morning and the sun is out with 26 degrees today. Perfect day.

You rest your case? I rest mine. Your comments about the Scottish on this thread are appalling, so I can see why you maybe had a hard time here.

tilypu · 18/06/2026 08:00

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

We really do.

I've just seen shocking footage of a solo England supporter in Boston, in a pub full of Scottish people. The hate is tangible.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtKzUcxrg3/?igsh=aHIya3M5NmZxNHF6

Juliette Amie on Instagram: "the Dubliner really is the Scotlander 👀 @thedublinerboston"

7,418 likes, 131 comments - julietteamie_ on June 17, 2026: "the Dubliner really is the Scotlander 👀 @thedublinerboston".

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtKzUcxrg3?igsh=aHIya3M5NmZxNHF6

dopaminego · 18/06/2026 08:04

@countrylife00 You're so proud of your smug posts aren't you! What do you get out of them? Are you one of those people who relishes winding people up? Personally I like to find common ground with folk but each to their own.

Secretseverywhere · 18/06/2026 08:10

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 07:53

No need to feel sorry for us sweetie….

You don’t think its a really negative cycle of overhype/ scapegoating?

I just think it’d be better to celebrate the team for getting to whatever stage rather than assuming you will win and anything less is epic failure. It just seems like unnecessary pressure on the players / team.

ERthree · 18/06/2026 08:14

Well1mBack · 16/06/2026 21:41

Ach well, don't get your hopes up, Scottish football is a source of constant disappointment to those of us who support it. I think all us Scots are hoping for at the moment is to at least make it past the first round of the world cup! 😂

Edit: sorry I meant to reply to the op?! I'm tired tonight ...

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Scotland Outlander GIF by USA Kilts

I am never disappointed in our team as i never expect anything from them😁We are there to enjoy ourselves, nothing more. NO Scotland, No Party

tilypu · 18/06/2026 08:19

ERthree · 18/06/2026 08:14

I am never disappointed in our team as i never expect anything from them😁We are there to enjoy ourselves, nothing more. NO Scotland, No Party

Exactly this!

The joy in Scottish football comes from having no expectations, and enjoying the ride anyway, win or (most likely) lose. Then when we have success (and honestly, qualifying in the world cup is as big a success to us, as winning it would be for Germany), we will make the most of it!

countrylife00 · 18/06/2026 08:23

Secretseverywhere · 18/06/2026 08:10

You don’t think its a really negative cycle of overhype/ scapegoating?

I just think it’d be better to celebrate the team for getting to whatever stage rather than assuming you will win and anything less is epic failure. It just seems like unnecessary pressure on the players / team.

We will take one game at a time and enjoy every win, if we get more.
my husband is flying out to Boston later today, so I am sure he will have an amazing time .

Ang69 · 18/06/2026 08:48

Honestly, i feel sorry for the OP. She came on to just share a bit of happiness. It really doesn't matter who you support. The amount of hate for the Scots is palpable, especially from Countrylife.

There will always be idiots who spout hate but I do not believe the majority of Scots hate the English or vice versa. It is easy to pick out isolated incidences. I love Britain, all our 4 beautiful countries. The football rivalry between Scotland and England is deep rooted and not general hatred.

Can't we all just enjoy the football? Agree there will always be nasty people but for the vast majority it is all said in jest. I was personally delighted for England last night even though I'm a proud Glaswegian!

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 08:56

Ang69 · 18/06/2026 08:48

Honestly, i feel sorry for the OP. She came on to just share a bit of happiness. It really doesn't matter who you support. The amount of hate for the Scots is palpable, especially from Countrylife.

There will always be idiots who spout hate but I do not believe the majority of Scots hate the English or vice versa. It is easy to pick out isolated incidences. I love Britain, all our 4 beautiful countries. The football rivalry between Scotland and England is deep rooted and not general hatred.

Can't we all just enjoy the football? Agree there will always be nasty people but for the vast majority it is all said in jest. I was personally delighted for England last night even though I'm a proud Glaswegian!

Best not to mention countrylife as her cheerleader might jump in to patronise you.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 18/06/2026 09:26

BuildbyNumbere · 18/06/2026 07:48

Well many have said the same thing as me since! Some are a lot ruder! Why don’t you go pick an argument with them?!?

“Argument? This is supposed to be a discussion forum, yet you’ve contributed nothing of substance so far.”

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 18/06/2026 09:27

This thread is sad and depressingly familiar.

Aren’t Scotland great?
English weeping about the hatred
Scotland: 🤷‍♀️

Ang69 · 18/06/2026 09:28

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 08:56

Best not to mention countrylife as her cheerleader might jump in to patronise you.

Let them try!! I actually feel sorry for them having such a narrow minded view. So many Scots have posted positively about England but they still only want to talk about hate. There is NO HATE between us. Scotland and England have always been rivals, it would be odd to change that. It is part of the charm. Plenty of English folk have also stated they've been welcomed here.

Bloody hell, let it go guys and chill a bit, life's far too short for all this hatred when it really doesn't exist.

Differentforgirls · 18/06/2026 09:33

Ang69 · 18/06/2026 09:28

Let them try!! I actually feel sorry for them having such a narrow minded view. So many Scots have posted positively about England but they still only want to talk about hate. There is NO HATE between us. Scotland and England have always been rivals, it would be odd to change that. It is part of the charm. Plenty of English folk have also stated they've been welcomed here.

Bloody hell, let it go guys and chill a bit, life's far too short for all this hatred when it really doesn't exist.

Yes, I do too.

BuildbyNumbere · 18/06/2026 09:58

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 18/06/2026 09:26

“Argument? This is supposed to be a discussion forum, yet you’ve contributed nothing of substance so far.”

Not have you tbh

Perpetualscroller · 18/06/2026 10:57

Livelovebehappy · 16/06/2026 23:47

England all the way for me. But I do feel sorry for Scotland. They just never seem to be successful at any sport. It must be frustrating for them….

Except Tennis (Andy Murray) and cycling (Chris Hoy) and rowing (Katherine Granger) and managing football teams (Dalglish, Ferguson) and Curling (too many to name) and running (Liz McColgan, Alan Wells, Eric Liddell) and motorsport (Jackie Stewart) and darts (Jocky Wilson) and golf (Colin Montgomery) and swimming (Duncan Scott)….

Yeah, Scotland are rubbish at sport

Zov · 18/06/2026 11:09

llikeyourbum · 17/06/2026 23:46

The Scots HATE the English, why would you want them to win? They would never ever return the sentiment

Awww, I think whilst there is some 'anyone but England' sentiment, most Scots don't hate the English. And the English don't hate them. It's all a bit of fun and banter. I wish Scotland well too, and would be happy if they won. Happier if England won, but if not them, then Scotland can win. Grin

Imagine an England-Scotland final! 😊

Zov · 18/06/2026 11:10

Ang69 · 18/06/2026 08:48

Honestly, i feel sorry for the OP. She came on to just share a bit of happiness. It really doesn't matter who you support. The amount of hate for the Scots is palpable, especially from Countrylife.

There will always be idiots who spout hate but I do not believe the majority of Scots hate the English or vice versa. It is easy to pick out isolated incidences. I love Britain, all our 4 beautiful countries. The football rivalry between Scotland and England is deep rooted and not general hatred.

Can't we all just enjoy the football? Agree there will always be nasty people but for the vast majority it is all said in jest. I was personally delighted for England last night even though I'm a proud Glaswegian!

Yesss. Great post! Smile

Zov · 18/06/2026 11:11

@Ang69 And I was delighted for Scotland when they won their match against Haiti last Sunday.

dannyufcfan · 18/06/2026 11:14

Yes, it is ok to want that.

I want to wake up next to Sydney Sweeney

Zov · 18/06/2026 11:26

dannyufcfan · 18/06/2026 11:14

Yes, it is ok to want that.

I want to wake up next to Sydney Sweeney

I want to wake up next to Sydney Sweeney

I don't think you're alone in that @dannyufcfan Grin I can't imagine why! 😍

AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.
AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.
AIBU to be English,  but really really want  Scotland to win the world cup.
HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 18/06/2026 11:54

BuildbyNumbere · 18/06/2026 09:58

Not have you tbh

It’s impressive, really — you’ve managed to ignore every Scottish person here saying they support England so you can keep insisting Scotland “hates England with a passion.”

Must be exhausting carrying around that level of certainty in the face of, you know, evidence.

I’m Scottish, my husband and kids are English, and somehow we’ve all survived without this deep-rooted hatred you’re convinced we have and we haven’t frozen in hell as you’ve portrayed we would by supporting England.

But instead of acknowledging any of that, you’ve gone straight to getting shirty and behaving like a petulant child mid–pram explosion. If you actually want a discussion, you might want to stop stamping your feet long enough to have one.

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 18/06/2026 11:54

Ew, do you mind with your pervy shit 🤢🤢

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Calling me “strange” and “hysterical” is a convenient way to avoid acknowledging that you couldn’t defend your own argument. If that’s the note you want to bow out on, that’s entirely your choice.

All the best with the flounce. Goodbye accepted.

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