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AIBU to ask about the rape gang inquiry report? (Content warning - Details of Independent Rape Gang Inquiry)

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RedPoet · 16/06/2026 18:46

Rape gang inquiry report bit.ly/4uE5odw

It's harrowing

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JuliettaCaeser · 20/06/2026 09:59

Horrific. The ineptitude of the authorities is so extreme it can only be concluded it was intentional. Women are always bottom of the pile. This dawned on me after the media reaction to the cologne attacks. The scales fell from my eyes. A guardian columnist wrote a column blaming the women for their own attacks because they were “privileged” in comparison to the men. Never bought that paper again.

Also had the pleasure of witnessing this “culture” first hand in my twenties travelling in Egypt. Disgusting misogyny on display. My friend and I ended up confined to our hotel room until we could leave.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 10:03

Pinkandpurplehearts · 20/06/2026 09:22

It is sensitive and emotive because it is a matter of great public interest ie there is a strong legal argument that the public need to be made aware. Historically this issue has not had the attention it deserves, allowing the abuse to fester and spread largely unreported. As our national broadcaster, the absolute minimum I would expect of the BBC is to report on the existence of the report and to seek comment from the Government on it.

The fact that they haven't given this report the prominence it deserves tells you everything you need to know about the BBC. If it is covered it'll be buried as 16th item under regional news on their website. Then if you complain to them about their lack of coverage, they can say 'we HAVE covered it.'

They think everyone is like them: privileged and clueless, moving around in dinner party circuits where saying anything negative about ethnic minorities is completely forbidden.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 10:19

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/06/2026 09:19

The irony is, that everyone who is falling over themselves not to appear racist don’t seem to understand that the perpetrators in this case were very much racist. They explained to their victims countless times that white women are slags and impure and that raping white women doesn’t count as adultery because they are ‘less than’
They were racially motivated attacks.
Imagine if a white man raped a Pakistani girl simply because she was Pakistani? There would be mass outrage and quite rightly so.

If this was reversed there would be rioting in every town and city across the UK. The authorities would come down on the abuse like a tonne of bricks.

Instead we have silence, turning the other way, enabling. Pathetic. But I'm glad some people are calling it out and I do sense a shift where people are less afraid of accusations of 'racism'.

ERthree · 20/06/2026 10:32

deadinthehead · 20/06/2026 08:56

I made a witness statement concerning an oxford case, to back up reports i had made to social services over the late 1990's. Neither myself nor my stepdaughter felt secure enough to report the police involvement for the court case. Thank you so much for refusing to be silent. My stepdaughters life was destroyed by the very system that should have protected her.

I was torn to shreds on this site many years ago when i said young white girls were being raped and tortured by Muslim men in Oxford, I was called a liar, racist and so many other names. MN and the middle class can't handle the truth. In fact yesterday one of my posts was removed for stating that these rapes are still happening. The truth hurts but you know what, the truth can't stay hidden forever, even if you cover your eyes, put your fingers in your ears a hum nah nah nah nah.

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/06/2026 10:44

ERthree · 20/06/2026 10:32

I was torn to shreds on this site many years ago when i said young white girls were being raped and tortured by Muslim men in Oxford, I was called a liar, racist and so many other names. MN and the middle class can't handle the truth. In fact yesterday one of my posts was removed for stating that these rapes are still happening. The truth hurts but you know what, the truth can't stay hidden forever, even if you cover your eyes, put your fingers in your ears a hum nah nah nah nah.

I can’t believe your post was deleted for stating a fact. As I type now, as we discuss this now there are still girls being victimised and attacked. Why is that controversial to say? People are so bloody wedded to their “I’m so kind and virtuous” narrative that it has become a part of their personality. They seem to take other people pointing these things out to them as a personal attack.

Eudaimonia11 · 20/06/2026 11:00

I’ve just found this thread. The sad thing is, I haven’t read the report (I will on a few minutes) but I don’t think anything in it will surprise me or be anything I don’t already know.

Like a few others on here, I grew up in a northern town in the 90s-2000s. We all knew it was happening, no one living in my town didn’t know about it!

I was approached by one of the men when I was aged 11. Because I knew the adults around me were saying they were bad men, and because I was from a loving home, and because I wasn’t particularly vulnerable, I wasn’t taken in by him. I managed to get away from him before anything happened.

Like pp have said, they get the young, good looking lads that are 18/19 to do the grooming at the start. The girls think they have a boyfriend that cares about them. That’s how it nearly always started.

We all used to see very young girls staggering out of cars with music blasting. We used to see the graffiti on the walls that the abusers wrote “Gemma is a slag” - they’d sometimes write the girl’s surname too to add to the humiliation.

I spent my childhood and teenage years being followed home by Asian men in cars (always Asian men, never white men), I’d have to walk fast ignoring them and hope they’d give up. When they didn’t, I’d have to literally run away down back alleys so they couldn’t catch me - being followed home was a daily occurrence where I lived.

I was always very aware I could never report any of this to the police. We all knew some of the abusers were police officers, solicitors, worked in children’s services, some of them were local councillors, they were heavily involved in political parties, they were local businessman, etc. They had a lot of power and did a lot of good things for the town, they were untouchable. It was an open secret.

If anyone ever dared to speak out about it, they were accused of being racist. Of course, accusations like that and speaking out publicly could cost people their jobs. It fuelled a lot of real racism actually - genuine people with genuine concerns but who didn’t have jobs they were afraid to lose would speak out and then the racists from other parts of the country would join forces and create it into a horrible race riot “get all immigrants out, whites only”.

That then shut down any possibility of sorting this very real issue out. The issue has never been “all immigrants are bad”, it’s been this very real problem where the government seemingly let any dickhead in the country with no consideration for how their culture and values fit in with the country. These dickheads have then had children and so we now have British born dickheads too that obviously can’t be deported anywhere. Not that anyone was being deported anywhere in the first place!

When I had my daughter, I moved far enough away so that she wouldn’t have to deal with what I did growing up. I still visit occasionally and from what I can gather, these abusive Asian men are even more embedded in the power structures than they were before. We all know some of their names.

ERthree · 20/06/2026 11:29

Eudaimonia I am so sorry angry that you not only had to put up with these vultures but that that you knew you couldn't report it because our SS, Police and elected Officials were in their pockets. It is absolutely outrageous that it was happening then and is still happening now. Our Prime minister and his government know it is happening, our elected Offical's know as do the police and every social worker in the cities and towns where it is still going on. Yet not one of them speak out about it and we have to ask why. Why these people are allowing the rape and torture of white girls to continue?

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 13:40

Eudaimonia11 · 20/06/2026 11:00

I’ve just found this thread. The sad thing is, I haven’t read the report (I will on a few minutes) but I don’t think anything in it will surprise me or be anything I don’t already know.

Like a few others on here, I grew up in a northern town in the 90s-2000s. We all knew it was happening, no one living in my town didn’t know about it!

I was approached by one of the men when I was aged 11. Because I knew the adults around me were saying they were bad men, and because I was from a loving home, and because I wasn’t particularly vulnerable, I wasn’t taken in by him. I managed to get away from him before anything happened.

Like pp have said, they get the young, good looking lads that are 18/19 to do the grooming at the start. The girls think they have a boyfriend that cares about them. That’s how it nearly always started.

We all used to see very young girls staggering out of cars with music blasting. We used to see the graffiti on the walls that the abusers wrote “Gemma is a slag” - they’d sometimes write the girl’s surname too to add to the humiliation.

I spent my childhood and teenage years being followed home by Asian men in cars (always Asian men, never white men), I’d have to walk fast ignoring them and hope they’d give up. When they didn’t, I’d have to literally run away down back alleys so they couldn’t catch me - being followed home was a daily occurrence where I lived.

I was always very aware I could never report any of this to the police. We all knew some of the abusers were police officers, solicitors, worked in children’s services, some of them were local councillors, they were heavily involved in political parties, they were local businessman, etc. They had a lot of power and did a lot of good things for the town, they were untouchable. It was an open secret.

If anyone ever dared to speak out about it, they were accused of being racist. Of course, accusations like that and speaking out publicly could cost people their jobs. It fuelled a lot of real racism actually - genuine people with genuine concerns but who didn’t have jobs they were afraid to lose would speak out and then the racists from other parts of the country would join forces and create it into a horrible race riot “get all immigrants out, whites only”.

That then shut down any possibility of sorting this very real issue out. The issue has never been “all immigrants are bad”, it’s been this very real problem where the government seemingly let any dickhead in the country with no consideration for how their culture and values fit in with the country. These dickheads have then had children and so we now have British born dickheads too that obviously can’t be deported anywhere. Not that anyone was being deported anywhere in the first place!

When I had my daughter, I moved far enough away so that she wouldn’t have to deal with what I did growing up. I still visit occasionally and from what I can gather, these abusive Asian men are even more embedded in the power structures than they were before. We all know some of their names.

Edited

Thank you for your post. Its such a stain on our country that this has happened and been allowed to happen by people who are supposed to be involved in safeguarding. I think the tentacles of this corruption run very deep, politics, business etc.

I hope all this can be dealt with properly. If not, we're really heading for an almighty backlash against the perpetrators of this abuse and their enablers.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 20/06/2026 13:41

ChestnutSquash · 19/06/2026 23:48

Do you think the victims are lying?
What did you think about the original Jay report?

I absolutely believe that there was terrible CSA that went unchecked, that the fear of being perceived as racist reduced the willingness of authorities to act, and that as often the children involved were disadvantaged by being working class/in care etc that also influenced the desire to investigate.

Baby killing and snuff films were not mentioned in the Jay report, and that is where I feel that there are parallels between other events that have been used to whip up negative feelings against certain groups.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 13:47

ApiratesaysYarrr · 20/06/2026 13:41

I absolutely believe that there was terrible CSA that went unchecked, that the fear of being perceived as racist reduced the willingness of authorities to act, and that as often the children involved were disadvantaged by being working class/in care etc that also influenced the desire to investigate.

Baby killing and snuff films were not mentioned in the Jay report, and that is where I feel that there are parallels between other events that have been used to whip up negative feelings against certain groups.

The issue in the latest report is CSE not CSA. CSE is clan based and liable to be covered up because those in authority are terrified of being called racist. This came out in the Casey report where she said the ethnicity and religion of the perpetrators played a part in the cover-up.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 13:56

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 10:19

If this was reversed there would be rioting in every town and city across the UK. The authorities would come down on the abuse like a tonne of bricks.

Instead we have silence, turning the other way, enabling. Pathetic. But I'm glad some people are calling it out and I do sense a shift where people are less afraid of accusations of 'racism'.

I've just batted back the white supremacy shit on another thread.

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/06/2026 14:05

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 13:56

I've just batted back the white supremacy shit on another thread.

I saw your post and I agree with it

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 15:11

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/06/2026 14:05

I saw your post and I agree with it

Thank you.i think it's time to hide that thread x

Johaanah · 20/06/2026 17:59

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Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 18:40

The scale of it is so huge ..I don't know what any of us could actually do .
I've tried discussing it with some friends and family,but people are shutting their minds to it .
It's like we have all had certain ideas drummed in to us for so long ,that it's hard to go against them
Almost like brainwashing
Trying to discuss it with my husband,I got told ..what about catholic priests ,what about the fact more white men rape ..he just can't have a conversation about this issue,with out ,. what about this what about that .
One of my friends who works in Oxford tells me this is still going on ,with children with disabilities who are not in school ,she says her entire team are aware of it, it's been reported to the police,but nothing is happening.
I'm so utterly ashamed of the UK and what we have become
I'm looking at political parties to see who is going to tackle this next time , because labour clearly aren't

DandelionFarmer · 20/06/2026 18:42

Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 18:40

The scale of it is so huge ..I don't know what any of us could actually do .
I've tried discussing it with some friends and family,but people are shutting their minds to it .
It's like we have all had certain ideas drummed in to us for so long ,that it's hard to go against them
Almost like brainwashing
Trying to discuss it with my husband,I got told ..what about catholic priests ,what about the fact more white men rape ..he just can't have a conversation about this issue,with out ,. what about this what about that .
One of my friends who works in Oxford tells me this is still going on ,with children with disabilities who are not in school ,she says her entire team are aware of it, it's been reported to the police,but nothing is happening.
I'm so utterly ashamed of the UK and what we have become
I'm looking at political parties to see who is going to tackle this next time , because labour clearly aren't

I agree..anyone party proposing yo tackle this will get my vote. Currently that is Restore

Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 18:46

RESTORE..that's the man who gives his salary to charity each month isn't it ?

Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 18:55

I was going to say about why don't people care about these working class girls..
But I read somewhere this week about working class boys being most under achieving group in school ..
I went to school in the 1980s up north ..even then multiculturalism was being strongly pushed .areas divided by colour where you lived though
After school was the excitement ( when your a teenager) of meeting up for a scrap at the local park ,both sides bringing weapons.
Was a regular occurrence
As was getting followed home ..by the time I was 13 ,I'd been flashed at 3 times ,and every single time it was when I was in my school uniform with my yellow ribbons in my hair .
My heart breaks for all the girls in the report..I'm praying someone in authority is going to care enough to do something..this report is a great start

DandelionFarmer · 20/06/2026 18:58

Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 18:46

RESTORE..that's the man who gives his salary to charity each month isn't it ?

It is. Rupert Lowe

Wendyworm · 20/06/2026 19:03

Does anyone know what any of the other political parties have said about this ?
What about the leader of the conservatives..she's a female..does she have something to say ...is anyone telling starmer to sort it out / do something/ show you actually care ?

Wishihadanalgorithm · 20/06/2026 19:57

I feel like this problem with the Muslim rape gangs is along the same lines as the gangs in El Salvador. It took a (benign?) dictator to come to power to properly deal with the gangs and police corruption that went hand in hand with them.

Who is going to come along and deal with these gangs, the corrupt police, the corrupt councils and corrupt judiciary?

Do we need our own Bukele?

To me, it seems like Britain is at crisis point and something extreme is needed.

JuliettaCaeser · 20/06/2026 20:03

The be kind / stronger in diversity / yay multiculturalism/ non white people are always down trodden and lovely mindset is like socialism. An absolutely lovely idea and it would be amazing if it could work. But as a minority massively abuse it it has to end. We as a country have to face up to this.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/06/2026 20:17

JuliettaCaeser · 20/06/2026 20:03

The be kind / stronger in diversity / yay multiculturalism/ non white people are always down trodden and lovely mindset is like socialism. An absolutely lovely idea and it would be amazing if it could work. But as a minority massively abuse it it has to end. We as a country have to face up to this.

It won't happen all the time woke liberals have their way. There's more of it to come when Burnham is PM. There's no level playing field now.

JuliaBraverman · 20/06/2026 20:24

It blows my mind that people in other countries are posting about it online showing their incredulous disgust that this is happening in the UK yet there is not a peep from our mainstream media in this country

JuliettaCaeser · 20/06/2026 20:28

It’s literally that saying of al gore “an inconvenient truth”’