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AIBU to ask about the rape gang inquiry report? (Content warning - Details of Independent Rape Gang Inquiry)

83 replies

RedPoet · 16/06/2026 18:46

Rape gang inquiry report bit.ly/4uE5odw

It's harrowing

OP posts:
5MinuteArgument · 17/06/2026 17:41

SwirlyGates · 17/06/2026 12:31

I'm not sure why you mean here - that this thread does not have enough replies? There are at least two other active threads with many replies, so maybe that's why.

Yes, there's an active thread on Feminism : Sex and Gender Discussions with 500+ comments, so it's definitely getting attention.

5MinuteArgument · 17/06/2026 17:46

ainsleysanob · 17/06/2026 06:49

The lack of engagement on this post alone just demonstrates the lack of care people have. They simply do not care. They never have.

There are active discussions on Feminism: Sex and Gender, with 500+ comments. Ordinary people do care.

Nothing on the BBC of course, but that's because this goes against their agenda of presenting multiculturalism as a wonderful thing.

5MinuteArgument · 17/06/2026 17:48

Pinkandpurplehearts · 16/06/2026 21:10

Will the BBC report on it now?

Not if they can help it. Presenting ethnic minorities in a bad light goes against every fibre of their being.

QueenOfHiraeth · 17/06/2026 17:54

It is shocking and was not confined to the areas we all know about. There was local talk of these gangs in Blackpool when Charlene Downs went missing but nothing was ever pushed by the authorities

ChestnutSquash · 17/06/2026 18:21

QueenOfHiraeth · 17/06/2026 17:54

It is shocking and was not confined to the areas we all know about. There was local talk of these gangs in Blackpool when Charlene Downs went missing but nothing was ever pushed by the authorities

The networks are extensive and perpetrators are usually related.

Weeellokthen · 17/06/2026 19:07

So distressing!!
Thousands of people out marching every week about events in other countries.
Who cares enough about these disgusting crimes against our children.
Maybe we (us females) should get together and demand action instead of the likes of Tommy & co

User05677229 · 17/06/2026 19:09

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LuckyHazelFox · 17/06/2026 19:12

All those sneery middle class MNers are very quiet. These are the people telling us we are racist.

ainsleysanob · 17/06/2026 20:32

LuckyHazelFox · 17/06/2026 19:12

All those sneery middle class MNers are very quiet. These are the people telling us we are racist.

All those are the ones who don’t live in places like Rotherham like I do, who still believe that it’s a utopia of multiculturalism. They have absolutely no idea what it’s like to live in a place like East Dene, in Rotherham, as a white person. It’s a failed experiment.

LuckyHazelFox · 17/06/2026 20:39

ainsleysanob · 17/06/2026 20:32

All those are the ones who don’t live in places like Rotherham like I do, who still believe that it’s a utopia of multiculturalism. They have absolutely no idea what it’s like to live in a place like East Dene, in Rotherham, as a white person. It’s a failed experiment.

Yeah the bullshitters who reckon they live within walking distance of asylum hotels. And all is rosy. Yeah right.

PatricksMother · 17/06/2026 21:04

ChestnutSquash · 17/06/2026 14:28

This. Anyone who lives or lived in any of those northern towns knew this was going on, and the links to the importing and dealing of heroin by the same gangs, but anyone who tried to report anything was silenced, either by threatened with losing their job, actually losing their job, accused of racism and so on.

Not just Northern towns.

In Luton in the 1970s, groups of (mostly) Pakistani men were hanging around schools and children's homes looking for vulnerable girls to abuse.

They sent the younger, good looking men to find the girls and pretend to want to be their boyfriends. Once the girls were taken in, the older creeps would tell the girls they had taken photos of them having sex with their boyfriends and threaten to send pictures to their families.

The authorities dismissed the girls (sometimes as young as 11 or 12 year old) as tarts and slags, leaving their abusers to continuing raping and abusing them for years.

WaryCrow · 17/06/2026 21:13

RedPoet · 17/06/2026 10:37

What's included in this report is fucking harrowing:

  • A baby was abused and had cigarettes stubbed out on it while the mother was forced to watch; the baby was then killed.
  • Girls were set on fire.
  • Girls were sent to “red rooms” to be tortured, some of them killed, some of it livestreamed.
  • One girl was raped by a dog while men bet on whether it would vaginally or anally rape her.
Girls were forced to have abortions with knitting needles.
  • Glass bottles, keys, baseball bats, and other objects were forced inside them, some shattering.
  • Girls were gang-raped by dozens of men at a time in “party houses.”
  • Girls were whipped, hung upside down, suffocated, and urinated on.
  • Girls as young as 5 or 6 were tied up and abused.
  • Girls were locked in dog cages.
  • Girls were branded with an “M” for Muhammad.Girls were threatened with being killed and fed to pigs.
  • Girls were mocked for wearing a crucifix during the rapes.

All of this was carried out by predominantly South Asian, Pakistani men, with smaller numbers from Somali, Iranian, Syrian, Turkish, Bangladeshi, and Iraqi men.

And yet perpetrators were let off, authorities turned a blind eye, and it continues to this day because people are scared of being called racist.

Fucking hell. This is the kind of thing you hear about happening in Africa. Britain is supposed to be better. But it isn’t at all, it’s just better at lying to us.

Men hate women. Men have nothing but contempt for women. We only exist as their support services.

All these rich women, why don’t they use some of their wealth to start setting up crone island retreats, similar to the old nunneries? We need them; we need freedom from men. Although they should be martial art based, not male god based.

Pinkandpurplehearts · 17/06/2026 21:56

LuckyHazelFox · 17/06/2026 19:12

All those sneery middle class MNers are very quiet. These are the people telling us we are racist.

They’re either pretending this hasn’t happened or deflecting with straw man arguments.

Anyone with an ounce of humanity and courage wants to see this stopped and justice for the victims.

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 11:35

ainsleysanob · 17/06/2026 20:32

All those are the ones who don’t live in places like Rotherham like I do, who still believe that it’s a utopia of multiculturalism. They have absolutely no idea what it’s like to live in a place like East Dene, in Rotherham, as a white person. It’s a failed experiment.

Agree, I know a lot of people with good jobs living in nice neighbourhoods. They are totally insulated from all of this. They don't see it.

So they assume anyone who raises these issues is a racist moron. And they make casual insults about Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson etc assuming everyone lives in a middle class bubble like them and will agree with them.

It's infuriating.

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 11:40

PatricksMother · 17/06/2026 21:04

Not just Northern towns.

In Luton in the 1970s, groups of (mostly) Pakistani men were hanging around schools and children's homes looking for vulnerable girls to abuse.

They sent the younger, good looking men to find the girls and pretend to want to be their boyfriends. Once the girls were taken in, the older creeps would tell the girls they had taken photos of them having sex with their boyfriends and threaten to send pictures to their families.

The authorities dismissed the girls (sometimes as young as 11 or 12 year old) as tarts and slags, leaving their abusers to continuing raping and abusing them for years.

Yes, also happened in Telford, Oxford, Aylesbury, Bristol (mainly Somalis in that case) and all over the UK.

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 11:43

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 11:40

Yes, also happened in Telford, Oxford, Aylesbury, Bristol (mainly Somalis in that case) and all over the UK.

No doubt happening in London too, despite attempts by mayor Khan to deflect and deny.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/06/2026 11:46

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 11:35

Agree, I know a lot of people with good jobs living in nice neighbourhoods. They are totally insulated from all of this. They don't see it.

So they assume anyone who raises these issues is a racist moron. And they make casual insults about Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson etc assuming everyone lives in a middle class bubble like them and will agree with them.

It's infuriating.

What annoys me the most is that they just don't want to see that we have no problem with immigrants per se. We welcome anybody who comes to contribute and integrate. It's just them being obtuse and and an excuse to call us racists. They aren't actually very bright people when you cut through all their usual flannel. The us and we I refer to in my post is normal, every day people who have seen their country invaded by people who mean us harm. I refuse to be silenced, when I talk about invasion. That's how it feels when we are afraid to visit certain places. Successive governments have fucked us over.

Goatsarebest · 18/06/2026 12:16

We sacrificed disposable young girls so our institutions would be seen as progressive and inclusive. Anyone who challenged the narrative was labelled racist and degenerative. As per usual, the ones pushing the agenda from their educated elite comfortable communities were not the ones suffering the consequences. I was born in Keighley and fostered and then adopted, went to school in Bradford and worked in inner city Leeds for years for Leeds City Council. Everyone knew (not how depraved it had become) but genuinely feared for our futures if you said anything what so ever. The culture in the Institutions was oppressive to confirm to the narrative. This culture was set by leadership and policy makers who usually had their own agendas on either career enhancement or developing power bases, some was ideologically driven, but definitely not the majority.
The collateral damage was young vulnerable girls from chaotic backgrounds or who ended up in care due to tragic events. Nobody cared about them then and I'm not sure it's changed much.

Somerford · 18/06/2026 12:17

I think it's worth pointing out that the problem goes further than the predominantly Pakistani men, family members knew what these men were doing and did nothing to stop it. When the men were prosecuted, they went to court and screamed abuse at the victims. In one case, female relatives of convicted rape gang members demonstrated in the street of a Yorkshire town with signs accusing the victims of lying and chanted about denying them compensation.

We should not be accepting immigrants, legal or illegal, from that part of the world any longer.

Goatsarebest · 18/06/2026 12:25

The judiciary with their liberal progressive agenda were pathetic in the sentencing with the first cases and some of the deviants are already out and back in the community and challenging any moves to have them deported with legal aid.
The noise around the situation has forced our judges into tougher sentences in more recent cases, but their initial response definitely devalued the victims if you compared the sentences with a comparable crime not involving these communities.

LuckyHazelFox · 18/06/2026 12:56

Goatsarebest · 18/06/2026 12:16

We sacrificed disposable young girls so our institutions would be seen as progressive and inclusive. Anyone who challenged the narrative was labelled racist and degenerative. As per usual, the ones pushing the agenda from their educated elite comfortable communities were not the ones suffering the consequences. I was born in Keighley and fostered and then adopted, went to school in Bradford and worked in inner city Leeds for years for Leeds City Council. Everyone knew (not how depraved it had become) but genuinely feared for our futures if you said anything what so ever. The culture in the Institutions was oppressive to confirm to the narrative. This culture was set by leadership and policy makers who usually had their own agendas on either career enhancement or developing power bases, some was ideologically driven, but definitely not the majority.
The collateral damage was young vulnerable girls from chaotic backgrounds or who ended up in care due to tragic events. Nobody cared about them then and I'm not sure it's changed much.

With your background and work experience, you are one of thee exact people qualified to comment on the realities of this matter. I spent too much of my career in the public sector and I bitterly regret the environment I wasted my career in. It's simply another world.

TheGreatDownandOut · 18/06/2026 13:02

This is harrowing. I am speechless

5MinuteArgument · 18/06/2026 15:50

LuckyHazelFox · 18/06/2026 11:46

What annoys me the most is that they just don't want to see that we have no problem with immigrants per se. We welcome anybody who comes to contribute and integrate. It's just them being obtuse and and an excuse to call us racists. They aren't actually very bright people when you cut through all their usual flannel. The us and we I refer to in my post is normal, every day people who have seen their country invaded by people who mean us harm. I refuse to be silenced, when I talk about invasion. That's how it feels when we are afraid to visit certain places. Successive governments have fucked us over.

Yes, thousands of military aged males coming from incompatible cultures is an invasion. Although one that has been welcomed by our elites for their own ends.

I only hope the tide is turning and people are now willing to speak about what's happening.

TheGreatDownandOut · Yesterday 17:07

This thread died a death after two pages. The one on the feminist board (several pages in, haven’t read all of it) is full of whataboutery and people picking the report apart to try and discredit it. So much brainwashing amongst the ‘be kind’ brigade. Apparently, they have endless sympathy for the right type of victim but not for these victims. It’s so depressing.

TheGreatDownandOut · Yesterday 17:11

I’ve seen more people frothing over England flags being hung from people’s houses than I’ve seen about this report.