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I’ve been accused of stealing £20

314 replies

letmeletgo · Yesterday 06:55

I babysat for a family member at the weekend. One of the kids had to go to an extracurricular and there was £100 on the side for tickets to a show - I was asked to hand it over to the child’s lift.

I did, went about my day. The tickets weren’t available for purchase and I was handed back the cash. I put it back on the side for said family member and that was the end of it.

It’s now come about that £20 of the cash is missing. I’ve received a message to ask if I know anything about it because they think it’s quite suspicious that I got a takeaway while babysitting and now £20 is missing. I paid for the takeaway by card and showed them that, it seems to have quieted them down a little but it’s really annoyed me. I’m not a thief. Never have been, never would be.

AIBU to say if they have that little trust in me, I’ll not babysit again?

OP posts:
damemaggiescurledupperlip · Yesterday 11:21

I’ll go against the grain. I don’t think they are accusing you of stealing, OP. I think they were just trying to eliminate the possibility that you used the £20 for much-needed food before confronting the knotty problem of whether the other mum had retained it, either accidentally or on purpose.

they were ungracious and brusque (I would have said that you were very welcome e to the takeaway, and I’d reimburse you for it) but I do t think they think you pocketed £20

JustChillin70 · Yesterday 11:21

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 08:02

Bearing in mind the circumstance you describe you seem to be the only one who could’ve stolen it so I don’t blame them asking.

imagine the reverse my friend was babysitting now £20 has gone missing- everyone would be telling you to aak her

The op handed to someone else, who then must have put it somewhere or given it to someone to hold while they drove to said extra curricular, taken it out to buy the tickets that weren’t available and brought it back to the op. How is that only the op who could have stolen it? That’s without taking into account it may have been miscounted in the first place and was left on the side before the op even picked it up to hand to someone else.

15minsofrowing · Yesterday 11:21

damemaggiescurledupperlip · Yesterday 11:21

I’ll go against the grain. I don’t think they are accusing you of stealing, OP. I think they were just trying to eliminate the possibility that you used the £20 for much-needed food before confronting the knotty problem of whether the other mum had retained it, either accidentally or on purpose.

they were ungracious and brusque (I would have said that you were very welcome e to the takeaway, and I’d reimburse you for it) but I do t think they think you pocketed £20

You aren’t going against the grain
loads of us have said this

YouputthetwatinKathleen · Yesterday 11:26

Monty36 · Yesterday 11:19

To avoid the very issue that has prevailed.
100 left. If not in a sealed envelope I would have counted it. Just to be sure.
100 back to you in your hand.

Why should she need to pre-empt being accused of stealing by relatives for whom she's doing a massive, unpaid favour, and one that I imagine she has done before with no incident? She's done nothing wrong but be naive in thinking her, kindness, good will and trust was reciprocated by these people.

Eddielizzard · Yesterday 11:32

Very, very poor treatment of you. I hope you don't do them any more favours. Absolutely awful.

Glidinglikeaswan · Yesterday 11:32

letmeletgo · Yesterday 07:09

The kids are young - 2 and 5, so they can’t have stolen it.

My first thought was the kids. My friend's five year old took money out of her sister's purse.

Sisublondie · Yesterday 11:32

It’s really awful and I do feel for you, OP. I’d be absolutely furious. But.. the mention as to whether the children could have taken it reminds me of my DS when he was 6. We’d not long got home from USA and he asked for a “ dollar bill” to play with whilst he was making snowflake decorations and I was cooking and trying to reply to emails.... To get some peace I went “ Yeh, fine”, and off he went, happily using those children’s plastic safety scissors crafting away.
Then he proudly brought his amazing snowflake to show me! In the middle….. A PURPLE QUEEN’S HEAD!!! And, to decorate the snowflake was lots of purple confetti!!….
…. yup, he’d not chopped up a $1 note…….🙀😹🙀….!!….
Certainly taught me not to bat him away in future!

I hope it works out for you, OP. Nothing less than a grovelling apology accepted here, just to even to be able to tolerate being around them again!

starfishmummy · Yesterday 11:32

YouputthetwatinKathleen · Yesterday 10:56

It's very clear from the OP's posts there were 2 children, the 5 year old who went out for a bit with the lift giving mum who took the money, and the 2 year old who stayed behind with OP. Why on earth should she have to hand over the money to the parents (at 1 in the morning when they returned), when she has left it exactly where they left it?

Edited

Maybe the other Mum used the £20 for wherever she took the child.

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · Yesterday 11:35

letmeletgo · Yesterday 08:42

I got there at midday, left about 1am.

My assumption is they are close family members having babysat for 13 yrs as a Freebie?

Obviously this can create other problems if you refuse to babysit in the future

JayJayj · Yesterday 11:38

I don’t think you are unreasonable to not babysit again.

However, in their position, I would also have asked you about it. £20 is missing, they are trying to find it.

Thebigonesgetaway · Yesterday 11:40

I also don’t see this as an accusation of theft. They simply asked if you used it for the takeaway, you may well have said yes.

Sgtmajormummy · Yesterday 11:47

This all goes to show that we’re losing touch with how to handle cash.

I’m 58 and any cash payment (baby or dog sitter, whip-round collection, subs, school trips) goes in a sealed envelope with the name and amount written on it, or at least a paper clip and a note attached. The receiver is invited to open it and count it. Teachers were relieved to have the kid’s name and amount clearly visible.

Leaving notes in a pile is asking for a gust of wind to blow them away or kids to grab (and slightly tacky TBH).

Whyarentmysquashesthriving · Yesterday 11:57

That's outrageous. I think you should tell them how bloody pissed off you are.

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 12:06

AltitudeCheck · Yesterday 07:28

They haven't accused you of stealing it. They've asked... presumably to rule you out (the person they trust with their kids!) before they blame the other parent for taking/ losing/ dropping a £20.

Put yourself in their position... if the £20 wasn't there, would you ask family member first, ask the other parent first or say nothing and accept £20 loss (and forever doubt them both!)

Wouldn't you prefer to ask the family member 1st (and hope they had used it for takeaway) before you have to ask the other parent and risk upsetting them?

Also, YABU not to check the amount given/ received any time you handle loose cash for exactly this reason! Ideally parents should have put it in a sealed envelope with £100 Johnny's School Trip on it!

No, I wouldn’t “check” with anybody, I’d just chalk it up to me not being careful enough (sealed envelope, or whatever).
She’d be just as rude if she checks with the parent who kindly ferried her child about so she didn’t have to.

Move22 · Yesterday 12:07

did you feed the children? Im guessing they did leave food?

andthat · Yesterday 12:09

letmeletgo · Yesterday 08:42

I got there at midday, left about 1am.

Genuine question @letmeletgo.

You did 13 hours of free babysitting.
And you were questioned over £20.

Are you REALLY asking if its unreasonable not to babysit again due to lack of trust? I hoping you're just on here to get it off your chest and not that you are actually questioning your response to this.

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 12:18

user1471538275 · Yesterday 07:01

Never ever babysit for them again.

The 'suspicion' because you had a takeaway - they should have bought you that takeaway anyway.

Absolute brass neck of them.

This. I couldn't put it any better.

I'd find it very difficult to be in contact with these people again, family or not.

Monty36 · Yesterday 12:18

YouputthetwatinKathleen · Yesterday 11:26

Why should she need to pre-empt being accused of stealing by relatives for whom she's doing a massive, unpaid favour, and one that I imagine she has done before with no incident? She's done nothing wrong but be naive in thinking her, kindness, good will and trust was reciprocated by these people.

By being very transparent she is not pre-empting being accused of stealing. She is simply saying here is all your money back as you left it. All upfront and clear.

anyolddinosaur · Yesterday 12:19

You say it was "on the side" - has anyone looked down the back and on the floor around whatever it was on? Maybe there was not £100 there to begin with, maybe one note got dropped, maybe the other mum kept it but I'd tell them why I would not babysit in future.

WearyAuldWumman · Yesterday 12:25

letmeletgo · Yesterday 08:04

Yeah not all the other people who could’ve handled it?!

I suspect that the money has been dropped at one point. I find that I'm more likely to lose the money that we have nowadays than the old paper notes - the new ones are quite prone to sliding out of pockets etc.

It's very likely that one note has come adrift either in their home or in the other parent's home. I'm sorry that you're going through this.

YouputthetwatinKathleen · Yesterday 12:25

Monty36 · Yesterday 12:18

By being very transparent she is not pre-empting being accused of stealing. She is simply saying here is all your money back as you left it. All upfront and clear.

Of course she would be. What has she got to be "transparent" about, unless it's with a view to avoiding being accused of doing something nefarious?

Therealjudgejudy · Yesterday 12:26

That's awful op.

Never babysit for them again!

PinkyFlamingo · Yesterday 12:33

Why are you babysitting all day till 1am in the morning for free?

letmeletgo · Yesterday 12:37

Monty36 · Yesterday 11:19

To avoid the very issue that has prevailed.
100 left. If not in a sealed envelope I would have counted it. Just to be sure.
100 back to you in your hand.

I never use cash so it would’ve never occurred to me

OP posts:
Monty36 · Yesterday 12:39

YouputthetwatinKathleen · Yesterday 12:25

Of course she would be. What has she got to be "transparent" about, unless it's with a view to avoiding being accused of doing something nefarious?

Well I think it would have been the sensible approach to take. Where people and money are concerned being transparent is helpful.
I agree to differ with your view.

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