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To think benefits need to be cut to fund increased spending on defence

501 replies

Viviennemary · 14/06/2026 20:04

This is absolutely necessary. Keir Starmer shouldnt have backed down the last time. But now with the current situation with Russia drastic steps need to be taken. We simply can't afford to sustain the current benefits bill with the armed forces so depleted. The money is needed to increase defence.

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Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:47

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:44

When I worked, I had a uniform provided and I also was in walking distance.
If you have commuting costs, then move closer. I bet that will get push back though.

My food costs are the same as someone working, and my bills are too. In fact, my bills are higher because I am home more.
I am still affected by a council wanting to change bin collections to monthly instead of fortnightly. I am still affected by less buses running, still affected by less police being about to respond to calls etc. Still affected by long waits for ambulances.

Work also isn't the only thing that someone may need to get to at a cost.

I don't work but still pay a lot of travel costs due to my son's appointments.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:49

MandingoAteMyBaby · Yesterday 22:40

Just means test state pensions, taking into account property value too.

UC mostly subsidises employers so they can under pay workers and keep them in precarity.

Whereas overall pensioners are the wealthiest generation in British history, those who aren’t will survive the means test.

The property you live in wont be taken in to account in regards to means testing because it is not cash. You can not eat bricks, and everyone needs a home.
If we go down your line of thinking, then any UC claimant who owns the home they live in should not get to claim anything. Thankfully, that is not the case.

No, UC subsidises greedy landlords. Or gives people a top up because they are not offered enough hours.

youalright · Yesterday 22:49

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:47

Work also isn't the only thing that someone may need to get to at a cost.

I don't work but still pay a lot of travel costs due to my son's appointments.

This is where all my money goes costs an absolute fortune. I live 10 minutes from work and have uniform provided and I take a packed lunch work costs me nothing being disabled costs me a fortune

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:50

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:47

Work also isn't the only thing that someone may need to get to at a cost.

I don't work but still pay a lot of travel costs due to my son's appointments.

Hey, and you need clothing when you go to those appointments too.

youalright · Yesterday 22:51

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:50

Hey, and you need clothing when you go to those appointments too.

Yep can't turn up naked 🤣🤣

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:51

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:50

Hey, and you need clothing when you go to those appointments too.

😂

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:52

youalright · Yesterday 22:51

Yep can't turn up naked 🤣🤣

Imagine that AIBU on here 😂

youalright · Yesterday 22:52

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:52

Imagine that AIBU on here 😂

🤣🤣🤣

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:54

youalright · Yesterday 22:52

🤣🤣🤣

"I showed up to my disabled child's appointment naked. Someone on MN told me that only working people need clothing. AIBU?"

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:54

youalright · Yesterday 22:49

This is where all my money goes costs an absolute fortune. I live 10 minutes from work and have uniform provided and I take a packed lunch work costs me nothing being disabled costs me a fortune

Yep. I lived close to my work too but my son's specialist hospital is 30 miles away.

youalright · Yesterday 22:55

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:54

"I showed up to my disabled child's appointment naked. Someone on MN told me that only working people need clothing. AIBU?"

Can you remember that other benefit bashing thread where someone said anyone on benefits shouldn't have a fridge or a matress 🤣🤣

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 22:56

Gosh aren’t you witty, thing is working people pay for their own clothes… you need working people to pay for your clothes, rent, food, and so on in finitum, yet are convinced, you are victims

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:57

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 22:56

Gosh aren’t you witty, thing is working people pay for their own clothes… you need working people to pay for your clothes, rent, food, and so on in finitum, yet are convinced, you are victims

Only 2 years ago I was a working person myself.

Life can change in the blink of an eye.

converseandjeans · Yesterday 22:58

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:37

Where is this vast amount of disposable income I'm supposed to have because I'm on benefits? Clearly I must be doing something wrong.

@Kirbert2 well I imagine there are side hustles. So people claim & then work cash in hand on the side. Also UC doesn’t take into account maintenance from an ex. So two single Mums living next door to each other could be in very different circumstances. Also single Mums on benefits that move a partner in who works & earns good money - but on paper he lives with his parents. My BIL targets single Mums & has all his paperwork registered at his parents address.

youalright · Yesterday 22:59

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:54

Yep. I lived close to my work too but my son's specialist hospital is 30 miles away.

Yeah my hospitals are spread all around the country local hospital can't treat me to rare and specialised. If I ever end up in my local hospital in an emergency the first thing they do is get me transfered these are the things people don't seem to understand.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:59

youalright · Yesterday 22:55

Can you remember that other benefit bashing thread where someone said anyone on benefits shouldn't have a fridge or a matress 🤣🤣

I think I do! This place is so depressing at times.
And I love we can laugh about it... gallows humour! If you don't laugh, you cry.

OneThreadOnlybyN · Yesterday 22:59

youalright · Yesterday 22:42

Do you want to trade lives work my part time job but there is a catch you won't get to walk your kids down the aisle or meet your grandkids as I don't have a normal life expectancy. Do you want to take 50 plus pills a day that make you feel like shit. Do you want to spend half your life in hospital. Do you want to try multiple different drug trials in hope that something will work or repeated surgeries that have caused more harm then good do you want to have to regularly travel up and down the country to see specialists as you can't see the consultants locally. Do you want the dvla to take your driving license of you. Do you want to need over 12 hrs of sleep a day just to function. Do you want to never go on holiday again as no one will insure you and the couple of companies that will the insurance costs more then your holiday. Because il happily swap because a cushy 9 til 5 then spending evening and weekends enjoying life sounds great . Being able to actually book days of work for fun stuff as all my annual leave is used up on appointments any after that which there always is i have to take unpaid. Still want to swap because I do

🌷of course they fucking don't, they just want to bash & act as if we just have a broken finger nail.

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:59

converseandjeans · Yesterday 22:58

@Kirbert2 well I imagine there are side hustles. So people claim & then work cash in hand on the side. Also UC doesn’t take into account maintenance from an ex. So two single Mums living next door to each other could be in very different circumstances. Also single Mums on benefits that move a partner in who works & earns good money - but on paper he lives with his parents. My BIL targets single Mums & has all his paperwork registered at his parents address.

So largely not actual benefits then.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 23:00

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 22:56

Gosh aren’t you witty, thing is working people pay for their own clothes… you need working people to pay for your clothes, rent, food, and so on in finitum, yet are convinced, you are victims

People on benefits pay for their own clothes too.
Or do you think anyone on benefits should be naked? It is a strange take.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 23:01

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 22:56

Gosh aren’t you witty, thing is working people pay for their own clothes… you need working people to pay for your clothes, rent, food, and so on in finitum, yet are convinced, you are victims

A nasty fall, a stroke, Covid etc... you could be one of us at any time.

youalright · Yesterday 23:02

converseandjeans · Yesterday 22:58

@Kirbert2 well I imagine there are side hustles. So people claim & then work cash in hand on the side. Also UC doesn’t take into account maintenance from an ex. So two single Mums living next door to each other could be in very different circumstances. Also single Mums on benefits that move a partner in who works & earns good money - but on paper he lives with his parents. My BIL targets single Mums & has all his paperwork registered at his parents address.

If you know someone committing benefit fraud grass them up don't punish everyone else on benefits claiming legitimately. But make sure you actually have your facts right before doing so. Not like a lot of people on here who like to say my neighbours, cousins, sil is claiming benefits and there is nothing wrong with her.

countrylife00 · Yesterday 23:02

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 22:22

Apparently they can't wait to tell you from what I've seen on here.

Because teenagers tell school support staff everything., They are often angry and vent about home life. Adults don’t tend to do this because they know the consequences.

countrylife00 · Yesterday 23:04

XenoBitch · Yesterday 22:22

Why is it anyone on MN who goes on about benefit mum's with SUVs and tattoos, nails, going on 8 trips to the Maldives a year etc. seems to know the ins and outs of what those people are claiming.
So, what are they claiming? Have they showed you their UC journal? Their bank statements?

I am on UC and most of my social circle are. We rarely talk about benefits and what we get. We have more interesting things to discuss TBH.
So why are strangers with SUVs and gel nails telling you about their finances?

You haven’t read it properly.
it’s their kids. Teenagers.
They talk about home life.

youalright · Yesterday 23:05

countrylife00 · Yesterday 23:04

You haven’t read it properly.
it’s their kids. Teenagers.
They talk about home life.

Did you as a teenager know all the ins and outs of your parents finances. Do your kids?

menopausequeen · Yesterday 23:05

Absolutely. The welfare bill is out of control and working people can’t pay for the ever increasing pool of people on benefits.
welfare should be temporary and for people in genuine hardship, not a way of life.

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