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Boris, Farage and Gove re Brexit-“Never have so few done so much damage to so many with so little ability to execute what they lied about.”

233 replies

Gkei737djdh · 14/06/2026 11:19

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

All so silent. They should hang their heads in shame, surely be publicly be made to take ownership for what they did and be held to account.Cowards, the lot of them.

And surely it’s time we tried to right the wrongs of Brexit.

Heseltine: It’s time to reverse Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage’s Brexit ‘crime’

Exclusive: In a stinging attack on Brexiteers, Michael Heseltine says the British public has been conned

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

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LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:12

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:11

That is now in the cost of the product and would have been for some time and it should all be second nature by now, what import duty?

Edited

Which makes things more expensive........

MaxTalk · 19/06/2026 16:12

randomchap · 19/06/2026 15:30

And your solution is?

Be pro business, cut the benefit culture and get people working. No need to be on benefits unless you have a real need.

The UK seems like quite a lethargic place these days. And Labour are making it worse.

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:15

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:12

Which makes things more expensive........

If the company is still exporting, it’s still selling its products, it must take hours to fill in those forms, the same ones time after time, come on

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:15

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:15

If the company is still exporting, it’s still selling its products, it must take hours to fill in those forms, the same ones time after time, come on

Yes which add hassle costs to the business

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:28

Unphased · 19/06/2026 16:09

So in your logic, we wouldn’t of felt no ill effects from the world crisis if we would have stayed in the EU, is that what you’re suggesting?

read what I wrote and then see if you can discern what I was saying. Which isn't your precis.

(Little hint: saying "if this, then that" is not the same as saying "if not this, then not that". If someone can grasp that, then a long career in coding lies ahead ....)

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:29

LookWhy · 19/06/2026 16:11

I disagree with Farage but he definitely deserves his EU pension as he worked as an MEP for 20 years. And he shouldn't be barred because he's not committed any crime.

All those meetings he attended. His tireless advocacy for British fishermen.

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 16:36

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:29

All those meetings he attended. His tireless advocacy for British fishermen.

An unmitigated disaster for fishermen in Devon and Cornwall. Looe fish market was closed, so they had to take it to Plymouth. Plymouth fish market closed, so they had to take it to Brixham.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 16:37

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 16:36

An unmitigated disaster for fishermen in Devon and Cornwall. Looe fish market was closed, so they had to take it to Plymouth. Plymouth fish market closed, so they had to take it to Brixham.

Spread the love.

cookbookjunkie · 19/06/2026 16:56

Lentilcakes · 19/06/2026 13:06

100%. It all started with his ill-conceived idea to shut UKIP up.

Well unless you were happy to have had UKIP in government, or constantly very hot on the heels of the two main parties, then it wasn't ill-conceived at all. It was a calculated risk that with hindsight, didn't pay off. Mainly because the Remain campaign was absolutely dire and focused almost entirely on insulting Leave voters and implying over and over that they were little more than a bunch of low IQ gibbons on crack, rather than on the perceived benefits of staying in the EU.

DC had obviously hoped that a referendum would put the whole thing to bed once and for all. He miscalculated. But if UKIP had won an election, or at least won loads more seats in Parliament, you'd have got a referendum anyway eventually. DC just made it happen sooner.

Now, as a result of no government yet managing to make a decent fist of things post Brexit and no government managing to get a handle on immigration either, it looks like you are still going to get Nigel Farage as prime minister. It's just that the party is called Reform now.

If Brexit and immigration had been managed better in the years since we left the EU then Farage would probably be putting his feet up in retirement in Spain by now, a single issue activist whose work was done, and Reform possibly wouldn't even need to exist.

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 17:32

@cookbookjunkie it looks like you are still going to get Nigel Farage as prime minister. It's just that the party is called Reform now.

Farage today: expressed frustration with Restore, which sought to outflank Reform on the right with bold promises including "the most ambitious programme of mass deportations ever seen in Britain". (BBC)

cookbookjunkie · 19/06/2026 17:52

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 17:32

@cookbookjunkie it looks like you are still going to get Nigel Farage as prime minister. It's just that the party is called Reform now.

Farage today: expressed frustration with Restore, which sought to outflank Reform on the right with bold promises including "the most ambitious programme of mass deportations ever seen in Britain". (BBC)

Yes. But you are still most likely to get NF as prime minister.

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 18:03

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 17:32

@cookbookjunkie it looks like you are still going to get Nigel Farage as prime minister. It's just that the party is called Reform now.

Farage today: expressed frustration with Restore, which sought to outflank Reform on the right with bold promises including "the most ambitious programme of mass deportations ever seen in Britain". (BBC)

When thieves fall out 😀

Of course the unpleasant truth (I suspect all truth is unpleasant to Nigel Farage) is that Burnham somehow managed to get more votes than all the other candidates combined.

Meanwhile, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far away ...

Votes against Farage

  • Conservative: 12,820
  • Labour: 7,448
  • Liberal Democrat: 2,016
  • Green: 1,935
  • Independent: 317
  • UKIP: 116
  • Climate Party: 48
  • Heritage Party: 33
Total against Farage = 24,733 votes Total votes cast 21,225 (Farage) + 24,733 (everyone else) = 45,958 votes Percentage against Farage 24,733 ÷ 45,958 × 100 ≈ 53.8% Result
  • Voted for Farage: 21,225 (46.2%)
  • Voted against Farage: 24,733 (53.8%)
Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:05

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 16:36

An unmitigated disaster for fishermen in Devon and Cornwall. Looe fish market was closed, so they had to take it to Plymouth. Plymouth fish market closed, so they had to take it to Brixham.

Looe fish market closed in June 2019, also I see that Brixham were proactive in modernisation, introducing for example, 'the world's first digital fish auction'. The port appears be attracting new business to the area:

June 2026
Fishing port's famous trawler event returns
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn592qq7w2qo

May 2026
Fishing port plans extension after record sales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqpernljzvo

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:22

As an aside, I've spotted that Count Binface and "Howlin" Laud Hope (Monster Raving Loony Party) both beat the Rejoin EU candidate in Makerfield.

Marvellous.

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 19:33

Looe fish market closed in June 2019 @Clavinova
Yes, as I said (I am local), and Plymouth fish market closed in 2024, They have to go to Brixham or Newlyn. The Harbour Commissioners had to take it for them.

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 19:34

Strange that the party formely known as the Brexit Party didn't win in a leave voting area

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:38

Yes, I remember reading that Keir Starmer sold out the fisherman last year, extending EU fishing rights in British waters for another 12 years - in exchange for access to the EU's Defence Fund. Did Starmer even get that or was he conned?

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:41

MulberryBrandy · 19/06/2026 19:33

Looe fish market closed in June 2019 @Clavinova
Yes, as I said (I am local), and Plymouth fish market closed in 2024, They have to go to Brixham or Newlyn. The Harbour Commissioners had to take it for them.

Looe fish market closed in June 2019

Didn't I post that - you implied it closed after we left the EU.

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:44

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 19:34

Strange that the party formely known as the Brexit Party didn't win in a leave voting area

To be fair, Reform's candidate was a liability, it was a vote to get Starmer out, plus Andy Burnham is 'King of the North'.

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 19:57

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 19:44

To be fair, Reform's candidate was a liability, it was a vote to get Starmer out, plus Andy Burnham is 'King of the North'.

You defended Kenyon plenty of times

Reform voters didn't vote for Labour

It was an anti Reform vote with the Burnham factor.

Clavinova · 19/06/2026 20:11

hedgeknight · 19/06/2026 19:57

You defended Kenyon plenty of times

Reform voters didn't vote for Labour

It was an anti Reform vote with the Burnham factor.

You defended Kenyon plenty of times

#Anyone but Labour.

It was an anti Reform vote with the Burnham factor

It looked like an anti-Starmer vote to me. The consolation prize, seeing Starmer humiliated if his premiership is considerably shorter than Boris Johnson's.

cookbookjunkie · 19/06/2026 20:12

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2026 18:03

When thieves fall out 😀

Of course the unpleasant truth (I suspect all truth is unpleasant to Nigel Farage) is that Burnham somehow managed to get more votes than all the other candidates combined.

Meanwhile, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far away ...

Votes against Farage

  • Conservative: 12,820
  • Labour: 7,448
  • Liberal Democrat: 2,016
  • Green: 1,935
  • Independent: 317
  • UKIP: 116
  • Climate Party: 48
  • Heritage Party: 33
Total against Farage = 24,733 votes Total votes cast 21,225 (Farage) + 24,733 (everyone else) = 45,958 votes Percentage against Farage 24,733 ÷ 45,958 × 100 ≈ 53.8% Result
  • Voted for Farage: 21,225 (46.2%)
  • Voted against Farage: 24,733 (53.8%)

In a country of 70 million people, Andy Burnham beating Reform in an election where the highest vote share was only 24k is not indicative of anything whatsover, in terms of who is going to win the next GE.

cookbookjunkie · 19/06/2026 20:22

And if you want to apply that same formula and logic to the last GE, it looks like this:

Votes FOR Labour and Keir Starmer: 9, 708, 716

Votes AGAINST Labour and Keir Starmer: 18,547, 081

And 4.1 million of those were for Reform. The third biggest vote share.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 19/06/2026 20:42

Sausagenbacon · 14/06/2026 13:35

Do Remaoners ever get tired of going on about Brexit, and insulting people who have committed the heinous sin by having different political opinions from them?
Obviously not.

Oh goodness, here we go.....