Boris, Farage and Gove re Brexit-“Never have so few done so much damage to so many with so little ability to execute what they lied about.”

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-heseltine-farage-boris-johnson-uk-eu-b2994030.html

All so silent. They should hang their heads in shame, surely be publicly be made to take ownership for what they did and be held to account.Cowards, the lot of them.

And surely it’s time we tried to right the wrongs of Brexit.

I saw Gove on a train recently. I was soooo tempted to give him a piece of my Brexit-hating mind!

100%. It all started with his ill-conceived idea to shut UKIP up.

Some people outright refuse to look at facts and evidence. They are Fact Resistant.🤷‍♀️

The number of economists who think the NBER study is flawed is clearly growing:

Pro-Brexit economist Julian Jessop;
https://julianhjessop.substack.com/p/what-the-nber-gets-wrong-on-the-economic

And now economists at Bloomberg have questioned the modelling. NB I recall that Bloomberg gave a £250,000 donation to the Remain campaign in 2016 for context;

https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-media/2016/05/bloomberg-gave-250000-to-remain-campaign/

June 2026

Leaving the European Union has cost the UK 2% to 4% of forgone economic output but almost half can be recovered by improving trade with the bloc, according to analysis by Bloomberg Economics for the 10-year anniversary of the Brexit referendum...

Bloomberg Economics used a variety of models to calculate its central estimate of the cost to date. It found the damage was far smaller than the 6% to 8% of GDP hit set out in a recent and widely read National Bureau of Economic Research paper. [Although I would counter the claim that the NBER research paper was widely read - the headline was widely read].

Using a “doppelganger” model like the NBER to build an alternative growth path assuming the UK had remained in the EU, Bloomberg Economics said the damage would be 9.6%.

However, it said the estimate is misleading because the NBER doppelganger includes Ireland, where growth has averaged 7% a year since the 2016 referendum thanks to its low-tax strategy, and [the doppelganger] is heavily weighted to the US, which unlike the UK “wasn’t hit by an energy shock in 2022, has benefited from significant fiscal stimulus and is seeing the benefits of AI investment.”

Stripping out Ireland reduces the hit to about 6% and adjusting the US growth trajectory to reflect pre-2016 levels of outperformance lowers the impact further to 3.4%. Alternatively, using the World Trade Organization’s Global Trade Model, capturing the impact of higher trade barriers, points to a 2.5% long-term hit, Bloomberg Economics said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-09/how-the-uk-s-options-for-rebuilding-ties-with-europe-stack-up

The number of economists who think the NBER study is flawed is clearly growing

From 1 (Jessop) to 2?

More than one economist involved at Bloomberg. Happy for you to link to any other peer reviews.

You will find fault with it.

There is so much evidence that points to the damage that Brexit has caused, and almost nothng that say different.

Where are the brexiteers celebrating 10 years of brexit benefits?

Facts? I see that the lead author of the NBER study was quoted in the Guardian a few days ago;

“The statistics are really clear: the UK has grown more slowly after Brexit than before,” Bloom said. “Is it because of Brexit? Probably. You can’t be absolutely certain...

You will find fault with it

You mean you can't find any other peer reviews for the NBER study.

No, I mean you will find fault with it as in not accepting it.

I remember the times you used to diss people simply because they had foreign names or were pro EU

So where are all those 10 year Brexit anniversary celebrations?

No, I mean you will find fault with it as in not accepting it.

Not quite sure where you are going to find all these peer reviews you seem reluctant to share. There is a note on the paper;

NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies official NBER publications.

I remember the times you used to diss people simply because they had foreign names or were pro EU

In fact, I resisted the urge to point out that several of the authors of the NBER study are linked to the Deutsche Bundesbank and have foreign-sounding names.

How does trade frictions with the EU help?

The UK is a weak country and Labour is weakening it further. Brexit is/was a total shambles.

And your solution is?

What are you waiting for?

Some kind of tangible Brexit benefit.

So are you telling me experts are always right and you blindly believe everything they say even though they have been proved wrong in the past and might have agenda

There are bits and pieces..small things for people who didn't export and got deregulation. Some VAT cuts.

He made that awful speech to the EU, crowing about leaving (got his EU pension tho). The EU should have revoked entry for him to any of those member states.

Surely any company that exports to the EU will by now be used to the different rules and regulations, any new company will not know any different, Tariff free trading

I mean .there's still costs to do with the paperwork and the import duties they have to pay

Explain the lie please. How/why was it a lie?

So in your logic, we wouldn’t of felt no ill effects from the world crisis if we would have stayed in the EU, is that what you’re suggesting?

That is now in the cost of the product and would have been for some time and it should all be second nature by now, what import duty?

I disagree with Farage but he definitely deserves his EU pension as he worked as an MEP for 20 years. And he shouldn't be barred because he's not committed any crime.