Kids can wear whatever they want to the shop

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Dh said this to Dd, 7, they’ve just nipped out to the shops, she asked if she could stay in her slippers, he said yes and that she’s just a kid and can wear whatever to the shops

Do you agree?

Are you often worried about what other people think? Because your main issue doesn’t seem to be hygiene/cleanliness , but more what will other people think /how she might be perceived.

It sounds like the DH didn’t even have the battle though!

Slipper soles generally aren't as hardy as shoe soles (and I include sandals, crocs, trainers in the "shoe" description) so if something sharp was trodden on it could likely ruin the slipper or not offer much protection against injury.

Plus if they tread in something unpleasant there is more chance of it being walked all round the house.

So I would not be in favour of wearing slippers outside - I do go to the washing line in mine, or wheel the bins up the drive, but that's the extent of the outdoor wear.

I disagree. It's about teaching them what is/isn't appropriate.

nightwear/slippers aren't appropriate, if you don't teach her, who will?

of course the world won't end if a 7 yo goes to the corner shop in her slippers, but she's old enough to understand we don't do that.

nightwear is for behind closed doors, not street wear IMO

unless you think it's just fine if she does that at 17?

At her age I lived by the beach. I understood it was fine to go in the beach shop to buy an ice cream or whatever in my swim suit, but I'd never have left home to go to another shop in my swim suit.

There's nothing wrong with societal norms being observed.

why can’t people's get dressed to go out of the house? Unless you’re a baby, clothes and shoes are basic attire for shops but not dressing gowns, pyjamas and slippers. FFS.

Why, exactly? Give me a reason that is actually of substance rather than simply custom.

Not slippers because they're for indoors. Not pyjamas either, unless hidden under a coat and tucked into wellies.
I remember going to the shops with my cousin when we were about that age.
I wore my mum's full-length petticoat/slip and a long necklace. She wore something similar . We got lots of compliments :)

I wouldn’t allow slippers to be worn out the house cause that makes them dirty and no use as indoor footwear anymore. But for younger kids, the rest I wouldn’t care much about.

Other supermarkets put a stop to people going in in pj's/dressing gowns. Rightly so. People shouldn't have to be told to get dressed FFS. No one is demanding they wear a twin set & pearls. But bloody hell.

It is very hard to reprogram ourselves to focus on the social norms that help people and are a genuine social good ("don't spit on people on a bus") and those that are just generic social rules which can be left behind as our society evolves. Lots of the social norms come in a bundle (wear school uniform/tie your hair back/be attentive/don't shout during a theatre production) it is hard to unpick which ones you can let go and which you should retain.

Slippers no. The whole point of them is that they’re indoor shoes for hygiene reasons, if you wear them out then you may as well wear your trainers indoors. Also the soles are usually pretty flimsy and designed for indoor wear so you’ll probably find they wear through pretty quickly if worn outdoors for any length of time. But a little kid in fancy dress, PJs etc. is fine.

Why do you need a reason beyond customer/ societal norms?? To use an old fashioned term 'standards'.

Wearing you sleep wear to the shops in not evolving, it's just slovenly.

Give me a reason that is of substance. Standards are helpful when they help us understand what we can expect of each other, like we don't knife you and steal your apple because it looks nice. Written standards are also good when we are manufacturing lift bolts to a standard strength, as it means the lift doesn't drop and injure people.

Can't bear the fearful idiots who aren't able to examine the society they live in and behave in a cogent moral way, root to tip. Social norms are for a reason. Just parroting "Standards". It means nothing. Explain your moral philosophy, or shut up.

I Was never that bothered what my DDs wore when they were younger, pick your battles I say.
But it has to be within reason - so not a flimsy summer dress in winter unless it’s worn over a top and leggings for example!
Slippers would be a no because it’s bad for their feet and they would get dirty and it’s gross to wear outdoor shoes in the house

Slippers are indoor shoes, so no, not to be worn outside. FFS I change into crocs to empty the bins.

Is the dd called "Lil". I have a vision of Fagash Lil in my mind now.

No it’s more getting into a habit of just not bothering

Same goes for 'slovenly' Consider your capitalist conditioning about how people should behave and what they should be like. Hygiene is a thing. Mental discipline is a thing. Physical comfort is a thing. Signalling your taste is a thing, though co-opted by capitalism such that none of us can really tell what our innate tastes are. Being 'smart' or equating comfort with laziness is not a thing. It is a weird belief system. Check what you've been indoctrinated with and by whom and why.

Will a one off create a habit though? Why did she want to wear her slippers?

It’s more around the DH attitude i suppose. From what OP said it sounds like he doesn’t really do anything other than just take the easy way out and let the dd do as she wishes!

I would have more of an issue with that attitude tbh!

I don’t really understand how your voting is structured, but I think this is a non issue. People who overly squash their children’s creativity or fun because they are worried about how they’re perceived are so upright.
A very young child wearing a pair of slippers to Tesco is a total non issue.

It’s about basic standards and manners so if anyone thinks it is okay to go to Asda in a dressing down is a skank.

I went to the local shop in my slippers a few days back.
In my defence I forgot I had them on so comfy, it was only when I got to the till and looked down I realised.
Oh well never mind.

A hundred years ago I was 9, I went to school in my barbie slippers, again I forgot I had them on, mum busy getting us out the door.
Got to school and realised 🙃 told mum she said put ya pe trainers on I'll write you a note.
Again oh well.

Slippers, no because then she can't wear them in the house. I have gone out with daughter in a swimming costume though- one of those that covers arms and legs. She is 3, it was during the heatwave and she styled it well with her necklace, sunglasses and handbag.