To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

Did she know he was going to attack her when she left the house?

If not, why did she have them on her? Because she always did?

I’m actually “vilifying” the people responsible for her, because if your child feels to need to carry a hatchet, you have already failed them.

You cannot use a totally separate and unrelated event, in another country no less, to justify vigilante behaviour elsewhere.

People should not be allowed to walk around armed with axes and knives, it goes without saying that children are included.

Predators should face harsh legal penalties for things like sexual abuse, far more than is often dished out, and people should not arm themselves and publicly brandish weapons like knives and axes. It’s not an either/ or scenario.
Thinking someone shouldn’t be on the street with an axe does not mean you think a predator should have no consequences.

Are you trolling?

You skipped over the part I said I was getting beaten up by bullies? Violence is wrong so just let other people batter you?

What would you do if your child was getting bullied, send them out with a weapon?

Because you appear to think that’s the only answer here.

Just looking through some news articles, I can’t find one where she’s accused the man of saying anything to her on previous occasions.

I can’t either.

Which is where the “carrying them to protect herself” falls down.

When she left the house, from what I can see, there was no known reason to protect herself.

Another country? Last I checked Scotland wasn’t independent yet. And is more ideologically captured than the uk from what I’ve heard they don’t even expel violent students from schools up there.
Im sure the police are absolutely marvellous and not at all overly concerned with not seeming racist like the police in England.

I think often girls who are the victims of sexual violence have been failed by their parents. What are we doing as a society to protect them? If they were taken into care they’d be even more preyed upon.

We’re not at that age yet. But when we are I’ll be a lot younger and physically fitter than my parents were when I was 12 so weapons likely wont be necessary. I also no longer live in an area where my children are likely to be bullied.

Not everyone’s parents are the same.

I grew up in the shittiest of shithole council estates in the NE, and now live in Cheshire. I only have for 2 years, so 35 years of my life were spent in an environment just like that little girls.

Bullies live everywhere. You’re not immune to them because you’ve moved.

Are you suggesting by “physically fitter and younger” that you’d hit them yourself?

Yes country.
Scotland is still a country in itself whether or not it’s part of the UK. That’s irrelevant.
Perhaps you need to have more basic facts before talking about something.

She sounds rough as toast
Nope, that would be you

I can't see anything in the article stating that this was an ongoing issue. It reads like this is the first interaction.
He shouldn't have said what he did. Personally, I don't think the girls should have escalated it but I understand the desire to stand up for yourself - it would have been safer to ignore him. He wanted a reaction and they gave him it. And when they escalated, he should have acted like an adult and walked away.
But none of that answers why a child is carrying weapons. She's no hero. There's something seriously flawed with that mentality. Lochee is rough as a badgers arse, so maybe it's a product of a specific mentality, but it shouldn't be normalised or praised.

I am tbh if I have to when my eldest is 12 I’ll only be 28.
Whete I live now is completely different from where I lived age 12 the layout of the streets and the fact we are surrounded by elderly people and the families I do know are really nice. There’s no chance my children will be bullied to the extent I was here

Yeah and the uk is also a country. Containing Scotland Northern Ireland wales and England.

So when you’re 28 you’ll punch a 12 year old if you “have to?”

I’m not sure I have anything else to add, that’s quite obviously horrendous.

You obviously do think that violence is the only answer.

We are not talking about 'people' carrying knives and axes, we're talking about a little girl who was being harassed by a grown man, and you want to paint her, the victim as being as bad as he is. Frankly I'd argue women like you are as bad he is.

If other kids are beating my kid like I was beaten then I will do what I have to do.
You haven’t given an actual solution on what YOU would do other than allow you child to be bullied or assaulted. Never allowing them to leave the house and you driving them everywhere? Some life that would be. Or calling the police who are useless in this country and probably won’t get there in time anyway

Nope. Born and raised in the “grooming capital” of NW England though, next to the estate deemed the most deprived in England for 5 years running.
My parents were teenagers, drink and drug problems, went to school with holes in my shoes and was exposed to things no child should be.

Never armed myself with weapons though.

My son would be defending himself against murder.

I cannot engage with someone who not only thinks children should carry weapons, but that they’d personally hit a child.

To be fair, the man had already pushed the 12-year-old girl to the ground before she took out her weapons. Obviously I don't agree with her having weapons, but clearly 'options' are somewhat narrowed if a man is willing and able to push you to the ground. She also told the court that she hit her head on railings as she fell.

Cool you never properly answered my questions it was all just outrage at the prospect of a victim defending themselves anyway.
My parents were lovely but they were too old and fat to defend me however I won’t be.