To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

Again, not an axe and she wasn't running around wielding axes on the streets.

This was a petrified 12 year old girl wanting to stop a man and his sister from sexually assaulting her and her sister.

Maybe you should write up your 500 things to do if two people are wanting to sexually assault you and we can all learn from your vast experience.

Lets start with just the first 50? And take it from there.

Over to you.

We’ve seen with grooming gangs how the police put predators before white girls because they don’t want to be accused of being racist

I completely agree with this.

Why are you saying “not an axe, a hatchet”, like a hatchet is a soft toy?

Both could kill you with one blow.
Knife/machete, potato potato.

Can I just point out that the argument on here tends to be that Asians are dangerous because grooming gangs.

This man was Bulgarian. We can’t use Muslim grooming gangs as the reason for everything.

The same police who accused the girls publicly of misinformation?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r40gylxpwo

I’m sure the girls know what would happen if they reported the incident to the police - at best nothing. (See grooming gangs) At worst they would be blamed and vilified - as indeed happened. People who should have known better chose to ignore the terror in a young girl’s voice and rather saw the grown man as the victim.

I woud hope no one believes children carrying knives or weapons to protect themselves is a good thing. It is a terrible thing, But the failure is the systems not theirs. It has failed and keeps on failing to protect working class children especially.

And the predator didn’t just make lewd comments. After making the sexual remarks he grabbed and pushed one of them to the ground while his sister assaulted the 13-year-old girl by seizing and pulling her hair, dragging her to the ground, and striking her on the head causing injury during the incident.

Precisely.

If I send my kid to school with a shotgun instead of a machine gun, will that be okay?

The argument is the police cared more about not being racist whether that’s against Pakistanis or Bulgarians is irrelevant

She was on the street with an axe, as mentioned in the article people have chosen to share, and a knife.

Anyone on the street with concealed dangerous weapons is a danger to others around them and themselves.

It’s not. Not unless it suits whatever the narrative is today.

The specific debate on here is about Muslim grooming gangs. You know it and I do.

You’re waffling again.

I said the police cared more about being antiracist than the safety of white girls, whether that’s antiracist against Pakistanis or Bulgarians is irrelevant

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Waffling instead of coherently answering what a little girl being followed by a predator should do. Seeing as all you have is outrage that she brandished a knife but no mention of what else she could have done

The police weren’t given the chance to protect this specific white little girl.

You can’t just guess that they wouldn’t have, because of a legitimate scandal somewhere entirely different, involving people from an entirely different background.

Police, parents, an adult.

They’re all sensible things a child in danger should do.

Go to the people whose job it is to protect them, and then those people do that job.

Perhaps one of the '500 things to do if two people are wanting to sexually assault you' is to verify the nationality so that the 12 year old girl could look up the processes and procedures she should follow appropriately when wanting to not be sexually assaulted? I mean, thats apparently the important thing, getting the nationality of the threat documented.

I think it’s important to be factual to be fair. You really need to handle an axe with both hands which didn’t really make sense with her having a weapon in each hand.

The police arrested her and put a statement out that her words were 'misinformation'. Those police?

ah so you think the solution was to call the police? Who may not have even got there in time, she may not have had a phone or a phone with credit on it. She’s also a scared little girl not thinking straight.

Brandishing them weapons may have saved her life or saved her from being raped. But yes continue to act like that little girl is evil for defending herself

Which brings me back to parents.

Her parents allowed her out of the house, to walk the streets, with a knife and a hatchet, without a working phone?

Top parenting.

And yet all those adults failed to protect the girls in Rotherham sometimes it’s not the solution

The police accused the girls’ of lying, leading to the girls’ public vilification and then charged one of the girls.
So yes we do know that they failed to protect this specific white little girl.

Again so did my parents.
Do you check your child’s pockets every single time they leave the house? Do you have one of them airport security scanners to put their school bag through every morning?

Oh she’s absolutely been failed by the adults in her life, agreed.

Rotherham is quite far from Scotland and completely unrelated to this situation, but the failure of adults to protect their own children definitely is true here.

And yet you vilify the girl for having no choice but to take matters into her own hands

Your parents were wrong. HTH.

I know you find this hard to believe, but some people do raise their children to understand that violence = wrong, carrying knives = bad, and yes - we manage that risk.