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To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

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Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:49

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:47

My 9 year old has skipped into school happily.

Polo tshirt, backpack, knuckle dusters, flame thrower.

😂😂

Thank you. Needed that.

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:50

Some Mumsnet posters seem to want the paedophile to have been allowed to abuse children in the park rather than a girl defend her friends and save them.

Wild!

Shedmistress · Yesterday 08:51

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:30

There are people on here so open minded that their brains have fallen out.

This man was attacking 12 year old girls.

The police, media and politicians lied about her.

She's a hero.

The answer to this is yes.

They are attacking the girl for defending herself and other girls, rather than attacking the man and his sister for beating them up.

Which in turn leads to more girls with nobody there to defend them because they are so busy worrying about the poor paedophiles, who then have to get more hatchets to defend themselves.

You can see clearly how we are in the state we are in.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Yesterday 09:00

likelysuspect · 11/06/2026 21:49

I read what the judge said.

Its irrelevant to what I was responding to

Is racial abuse hurty words or not. is it abuse or not?

I dont doubt there was racial abuse as well as what he said.

Both abuse. Or both hurty words. Take your pick

Doesnt necessitate carrying weapons.

The worst possible narrative is trying to justify young people, or any people, carrying weapons 'for defence'. Not justifiable.

This was an ongoing situation for that little girl. The creep was trying to groom the girls, and the adults hadn’t resolved it. At a guess, mum was at work and couldn’t follow her DD around all day. She felt safer armed.

It’s an awful world where people are more horrified about a girl arming herself against adult men, than about child abusers. Absolute classic, that the police came down hard on her first, and didn’t deal with the man until later.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 09:02

alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 21:10

Because she was regularly under threat of assault. Wtaf is wrong with you for talking about an extremely vulnerable twelve year old like that.

My child was still holding onto Santa Claus at twelve. It's still meant to be full childhood. A neglected kid of that age being regularly preyed upon violently for rejecting sexual advances of adults isn't rough. She's vulnerable and being let down by everyone around her.

12 is somewhere between childhood and teens.

I presume if your child was believing in Santa at 12, you wouldn’t let them out alone anyway, because they would be quite childish for their age.

extrabeans · Yesterday 09:02

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Yesterday 09:00

This was an ongoing situation for that little girl. The creep was trying to groom the girls, and the adults hadn’t resolved it. At a guess, mum was at work and couldn’t follow her DD around all day. She felt safer armed.

It’s an awful world where people are more horrified about a girl arming herself against adult men, than about child abusers. Absolute classic, that the police came down hard on her first, and didn’t deal with the man until later.

Edited

I haven't heard of this case before so am only going off what's said in the article, which doesn't mention an ongoing situation?

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 09:05

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:44

So you’d rather your child got sexually assaulted by a grown man than carried a weapon to scare him off and therefore avoided getting sexually assaulted. You’d rather your kid had to live with the anger, fear and shame that sexual assault would bring for the rest of her life? Ok. That is not protecting your child imo

You’re making a false equivalent, there’s a reason it’s illegal to carry a gun or a knife in this country.

Bizzare that you think allowing your child to roam the streets carrying an axe at 12 years old is protecting your child in your view.

Shedmistress · Yesterday 09:07

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 09:05

You’re making a false equivalent, there’s a reason it’s illegal to carry a gun or a knife in this country.

Bizzare that you think allowing your child to roam the streets carrying an axe at 12 years old is protecting your child in your view.

As we found out recently, it really is NOT illegal to carry a knife in the UK.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:07

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:28

Are you genuinely saying that it’s acceptable for 12 year olds to consider in advance that they may encounter a creepy Bulgarian, so leave the house with weapons already on their person?

She already had them before she encountered him. However you dress it up, that is premeditated.

He absolutely is a creep, and convicting him and punishing him is the right thing to do, but we cannot be adding hatchets to our children’s Christmas lists.

Anyone who does allow their child access to weapons, can keep their kid away from mine.

When I was her age I was getting badly bullied if they saw me they’d beat the crap out of me so sometimes I’d take a knife out with me in my pocket.
I really can’t get worked up about her having a knife and axe lucky she did considering what could have happened to her

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 09:08

Shedmistress · Yesterday 09:07

As we found out recently, it really is NOT illegal to carry a knife in the UK.

It absolutely is illegal to carry a knife with the clear intention to use it to harm someone.

Shedmistress · Yesterday 09:08

extrabeans · Yesterday 09:02

I haven't heard of this case before so am only going off what's said in the article, which doesn't mention an ongoing situation?

So you think she just took her machete and knife out for the day and happened upon this man and his sister randomly?

Shedmistress · Yesterday 09:09

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 09:08

It absolutely is illegal to carry a knife with the clear intention to use it to harm someone.

That isn't what you said.

ArmySal · Yesterday 09:10

Hope those who are defending her carrying weapons keep that same energy if, heaven forbid, their child is attacked or killed by a kid who carries hatchets and knives “for their own protection”.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 09:10

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:07

When I was her age I was getting badly bullied if they saw me they’d beat the crap out of me so sometimes I’d take a knife out with me in my pocket.
I really can’t get worked up about her having a knife and axe lucky she did considering what could have happened to her

You can’t get worked up about a 12 year old with a knife and an axe.

Okay. We’re very different parents.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 09:11

Secretseverywhere · Yesterday 08:42

I find it incredibly concerning that children of the age of 12 are feeling that they have to take weapons to the park to protect themselves. Obviously no one should be carrying an offensive weapon but why aren’t we protecting children from pervy predators? I assume the girls fall in that white, poor, “problematic” demographic where any abuse suffered gets chalked up to “choices”.

This is the biggest issue here.

Why does a child think she has to be the one protecting herself and her friends or siblings? We, as society, have failed her if she thinks that her best option is to carry weapons.

I thought we had the I Believe Her movement? So why was she arrested and not believed?

Because she’s ‘rough as toast’ as someone charmingly put it earlier in the thread?

She might not be likeable and sophisticated, but does that mean she shouldn’t be believed? Because we had this happen in the past and we were promised lessons will be learned.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:12

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 09:10

You can’t get worked up about a 12 year old with a knife and an axe.

Okay. We’re very different parents.

I’d rather my child be safe and able to defend themselves then end up raped and abused.
So yeah I guess me and you have different priorities

AnonymityAnonymity · Yesterday 09:14

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:28

She got an axe and a knife when a foreign man started assaulting 12 year old girls - and she did this in order to defend them.

The police have now admitted they weren't being honest when they initially reported on the story.

a foreign man !!!!!

So what if he hadn't been a foreign
man? What if he had been one of the many, many, indigenous perverts, criminals, misogynistic entitled men that are rife in our society? Would you still be defending this girls right to carry offensive weapons ?

What kind of society do you want to live in where it's normal for 12 year old children to go around armed with knives and machetes? She is being charged, quite rightly , with possessing offensive weapons.

You should really read up about the effects of carrying blades and other things to " protect" yourself. The carrier invariably either becomes the perpetrator of an horrendous crime or the victim of an horrendous crime

And the blinding racial hatred which is now being openly voiced in the UK is just wicked and truly awful .

Teddleshon1 · Yesterday 09:17

You are right OP. The reaction to this story initially was appalling.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 09:20

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:12

I’d rather my child be safe and able to defend themselves then end up raped and abused.
So yeah I guess me and you have different priorities

So you would prefer your child to end up in the criminal system from a young age for stabbing someone? Yes I think you definitely have different priorities.

How safe was the child in the first place that she felt she had to carry these extreme weapons.

And I’m sure lethal weapons in the hands of a 12 yo couldn’t possible go horribly wrong like stabbing a classmate. Because that’s never happened. Oh wait…

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:20

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:50

Some Mumsnet posters seem to want the paedophile to have been allowed to abuse children in the park rather than a girl defend her friends and save them.

Wild!

Exactly because what else was she supposed to do? Call the useless police who seem to prioritise allegations of racism over actual crime?

Majority of actual stabbings are committed by black men in London but sure let’s reserve our outrage over knifes for a little girl trying to protect herself ffs

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 09:22

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:20

Exactly because what else was she supposed to do? Call the useless police who seem to prioritise allegations of racism over actual crime?

Majority of actual stabbings are committed by black men in London but sure let’s reserve our outrage over knifes for a little girl trying to protect herself ffs

She wasn’t in London, and some of us believe that nobody should be walking the streets with knives.

Whether they’re a black man or a 12 year old girl.

Top “whataboutery” though.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:23

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 09:20

So you would prefer your child to end up in the criminal system from a young age for stabbing someone? Yes I think you definitely have different priorities.

How safe was the child in the first place that she felt she had to carry these extreme weapons.

And I’m sure lethal weapons in the hands of a 12 yo couldn’t possible go horribly wrong like stabbing a classmate. Because that’s never happened. Oh wait…

She didn’t stab or threaten a classmate it was a grown man who was creeping on her so bit of a false equivalence from you there.
Majority of actual stabbings are done by black men in London and you’re blowing your mind with outrage because a little girl had to defend herself from a grown man

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 09:24

It’s honestly nuts that some of the same people who would usually be ranting about being invaded and British culture being eroded by a savage culture seem to want very young children walking about wielding axes in the streets of the UK.

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 09:25

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:22

I absolutely don’t believe that men should be able to do what they want.

I also don’t believe 12 year olds should have axes.

She didn't she had a hatchet thats why axe was put in quotation marks in the article i posted

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 09:25

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 09:22

She wasn’t in London, and some of us believe that nobody should be walking the streets with knives.

Whether they’re a black man or a 12 year old girl.

Top “whataboutery” though.

Carrying a knife became a big issue because of black men in London stabbing each other so now we’re acting like a little girl should have to walk around defenceless surrounded by creeps because of that

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