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To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

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Honeyhonay · Yesterday 08:32

Naunet · Yesterday 08:22

Isn't it amazing that your focus is on terrified kids carrying weapons rather than on the fact that kids should be free to play outside without being sexually threatened by grown adult men, and sometimes worse? Quicker to police scared children than grown adult males.

The man has been arrested and charged you’re making things up if you’re suggesting anyone has said that shouldn’t happen.

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:33

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:28

Are you genuinely saying that it’s acceptable for 12 year olds to consider in advance that they may encounter a creepy Bulgarian, so leave the house with weapons already on their person?

She already had them before she encountered him. However you dress it up, that is premeditated.

He absolutely is a creep, and convicting him and punishing him is the right thing to do, but we cannot be adding hatchets to our children’s Christmas lists.

Anyone who does allow their child access to weapons, can keep their kid away from mine.

Yes, if my 12-year-old girl was genuinely at risk of harm by a peadophile, I think it’s acceptable for her to carry a weapon to protect herself in the right circumstances. I’m not going to let a grown man hurt my child physically or emotionally without her feeling like she has any ability to defend herself.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:34

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:30

There are people on here so open minded that their brains have fallen out.

This man was attacking 12 year old girls.

The police, media and politicians lied about her.

She's a hero.

She’s not a hero.

My kids are not going to school with children who carry axes, or have parents who would encourage that.

They’re not hanging around the streets with girls with knives, or boys with knives.

That is a hard line that most reasonable parents would have. My kids lives are a weapon free zone, and they’re not sitting outside shops with kids who carry them.

If they need protection, come home or find an adult.

It is our job, not theirs, to protect them. If you’re the kind of parent who would prefer an axe wielding 12 year old over doing your job as their parent - I have some serious questions about your capabilities.

Naunet · Yesterday 08:35

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 08:32

The man has been arrested and charged you’re making things up if you’re suggesting anyone has said that shouldn’t happen.

Well the police were pretty keen at the start of all this, werent they, painting him as the victim? As were all the horrific women here, so keen to condemn her without even hearing her side and casting the man as the victim, or are we pretending that didn't happen now?

Naunet · Yesterday 08:36

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:34

She’s not a hero.

My kids are not going to school with children who carry axes, or have parents who would encourage that.

They’re not hanging around the streets with girls with knives, or boys with knives.

That is a hard line that most reasonable parents would have. My kids lives are a weapon free zone, and they’re not sitting outside shops with kids who carry them.

If they need protection, come home or find an adult.

It is our job, not theirs, to protect them. If you’re the kind of parent who would prefer an axe wielding 12 year old over doing your job as their parent - I have some serious questions about your capabilities.

You realise not every child has parents who will protect them, dont you?

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:38

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:33

Yes, if my 12-year-old girl was genuinely at risk of harm by a peadophile, I think it’s acceptable for her to carry a weapon to protect herself in the right circumstances. I’m not going to let a grown man hurt my child physically or emotionally without her feeling like she has any ability to defend herself.

Well that’s where we differ.

I wouldn’t have mine sat on a street corner regardless, with or without an axe.

It’s a different world to the one we grew up in, and for the record I grew up on a council estate so that’s not coming from a place of privilege.

If was inclined to let them walk the streets, they wouldn’t be taken a knife with them. Fights happen, arguments about boyfriends, whatever, before you know it, you have a dead child on your hands because yours was carrying a knife and lost their shit.

Far, far too big a risk IMO. Wouldn’t happen.

BMW58 · Yesterday 08:38

I hadnt heard orcread about this case before and am wondering whether OP is confusing it with the other axe attacker that HAS been discussed on here - 19-year-old Neo Nazi Alina Burns who was jailed for 19.5 years in May for attempted murder after a terror-motivated attack against an Iranian Kurd in a Kebab shop in Bristol?

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:39

alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 21:10

Because she was regularly under threat of assault. Wtaf is wrong with you for talking about an extremely vulnerable twelve year old like that.

My child was still holding onto Santa Claus at twelve. It's still meant to be full childhood. A neglected kid of that age being regularly preyed upon violently for rejecting sexual advances of adults isn't rough. She's vulnerable and being let down by everyone around her.

She may well be vulnerable and may well have been let down, but even vulnerable children know that you don’t arm yourself with lethal weapons and take matters into your own hands like that. Not least because she is further endangering herself if someone else gets hold of those weapons and uses them against her.

Going to the police about the harassment would be the fully understood response to anyone, vulnerable or not.

I sympathise with the girl but can in no way condone her actions.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:40

Naunet · Yesterday 08:36

You realise not every child has parents who will protect them, dont you?

I do, yeah. My dad is abusive, and I worked in schools for children with various vulnerabilities.

Those parents shouldn’t have their children. Schools need to do better, services need to do better.

I don’t think it’s reasonable for vulnerable kids to resort to violence, they have to be taught better, by somebody.

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:41

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:34

She’s not a hero.

My kids are not going to school with children who carry axes, or have parents who would encourage that.

They’re not hanging around the streets with girls with knives, or boys with knives.

That is a hard line that most reasonable parents would have. My kids lives are a weapon free zone, and they’re not sitting outside shops with kids who carry them.

If they need protection, come home or find an adult.

It is our job, not theirs, to protect them. If you’re the kind of parent who would prefer an axe wielding 12 year old over doing your job as their parent - I have some serious questions about your capabilities.

How can you “do your job as a parent” when you’re at home and your child is out on the street? You can’t protect a child that age 24/7. You need to teach them to protect themselves. An axe and a knife might be extreme, but I’m teaching my kids that they never have to put up with anyone attacking them physically or emotionally. They stand up for themselves and they don’t put up with it. In this child’s world and the area they live in, it sounds as though waving a knife around (I agree the axe was a bit OTT) might have been the only way to get the message across to not fuck with her. She IS a hero, she’s shown that not all 12-year-old girls are easy prey for grown male peadophiles, and if it makes other men think twice the next time they want to yell something disgusting to a child then that can only be a good thing IMO

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 08:41

alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 21:10

Because she was regularly under threat of assault. Wtaf is wrong with you for talking about an extremely vulnerable twelve year old like that.

My child was still holding onto Santa Claus at twelve. It's still meant to be full childhood. A neglected kid of that age being regularly preyed upon violently for rejecting sexual advances of adults isn't rough. She's vulnerable and being let down by everyone around her.

Even more reason for not carrying lethal weapons

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:41

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:33

Yes, if my 12-year-old girl was genuinely at risk of harm by a peadophile, I think it’s acceptable for her to carry a weapon to protect herself in the right circumstances. I’m not going to let a grown man hurt my child physically or emotionally without her feeling like she has any ability to defend herself.

This is insane, and the reason that knife crime and deaths is so endemic these days. I can’t believe an adult would encourage their child to ‘tool up’ like this! 🤷‍♀️😳

Secretseverywhere · Yesterday 08:42

I find it incredibly concerning that children of the age of 12 are feeling that they have to take weapons to the park to protect themselves. Obviously no one should be carrying an offensive weapon but why aren’t we protecting children from pervy predators? I assume the girls fall in that white, poor, “problematic” demographic where any abuse suffered gets chalked up to “choices”.

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:42

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:41

How can you “do your job as a parent” when you’re at home and your child is out on the street? You can’t protect a child that age 24/7. You need to teach them to protect themselves. An axe and a knife might be extreme, but I’m teaching my kids that they never have to put up with anyone attacking them physically or emotionally. They stand up for themselves and they don’t put up with it. In this child’s world and the area they live in, it sounds as though waving a knife around (I agree the axe was a bit OTT) might have been the only way to get the message across to not fuck with her. She IS a hero, she’s shown that not all 12-year-old girls are easy prey for grown male peadophiles, and if it makes other men think twice the next time they want to yell something disgusting to a child then that can only be a good thing IMO

So what weapons are your kids carrying?!

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:43

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:41

How can you “do your job as a parent” when you’re at home and your child is out on the street? You can’t protect a child that age 24/7. You need to teach them to protect themselves. An axe and a knife might be extreme, but I’m teaching my kids that they never have to put up with anyone attacking them physically or emotionally. They stand up for themselves and they don’t put up with it. In this child’s world and the area they live in, it sounds as though waving a knife around (I agree the axe was a bit OTT) might have been the only way to get the message across to not fuck with her. She IS a hero, she’s shown that not all 12-year-old girls are easy prey for grown male peadophiles, and if it makes other men think twice the next time they want to yell something disgusting to a child then that can only be a good thing IMO

We’re talking about a 12 year old. Not a kid in their late teens, a 12 year old.

You start by not having your kid walking the streets. You continue by not encouraging or allowing them to have access to weapons.

I grew up in one of those areas, and I don’t believe it’s acceptable to wave a knife around.

You can be “rough” and know better - we have to stop infantilising the working class, like they can’t know better than taking an axe to the shop.

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:44

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:41

This is insane, and the reason that knife crime and deaths is so endemic these days. I can’t believe an adult would encourage their child to ‘tool up’ like this! 🤷‍♀️😳

So you’d rather your child got sexually assaulted by a grown man than carried a weapon to scare him off and therefore avoided getting sexually assaulted. You’d rather your kid had to live with the anger, fear and shame that sexual assault would bring for the rest of her life? Ok. That is not protecting your child imo

ArmySal · Yesterday 08:45

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:41

This is insane, and the reason that knife crime and deaths is so endemic these days. I can’t believe an adult would encourage their child to ‘tool up’ like this! 🤷‍♀️😳

I’ve tucked a machete in my daughter’s trousers this morning, you don’t know who’s armed these days.

Naunet · Yesterday 08:46

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:40

I do, yeah. My dad is abusive, and I worked in schools for children with various vulnerabilities.

Those parents shouldn’t have their children. Schools need to do better, services need to do better.

I don’t think it’s reasonable for vulnerable kids to resort to violence, they have to be taught better, by somebody.

Of course its not reasonable, they should never be put in that situation in the first place, but its completely understandable.

ArmySal · Yesterday 08:46

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:44

So you’d rather your child got sexually assaulted by a grown man than carried a weapon to scare him off and therefore avoided getting sexually assaulted. You’d rather your kid had to live with the anger, fear and shame that sexual assault would bring for the rest of her life? Ok. That is not protecting your child imo

You do realise the majority of adults could easily disarm her and smack her over the head with that axe? Sorry, hatchet.
Absolute weirdos defending a child carrying weapons.

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:47

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:44

So you’d rather your child got sexually assaulted by a grown man than carried a weapon to scare him off and therefore avoided getting sexually assaulted. You’d rather your kid had to live with the anger, fear and shame that sexual assault would bring for the rest of her life? Ok. That is not protecting your child imo

OMG. I pray you aren’t for real.

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:47

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:34

She’s not a hero.

My kids are not going to school with children who carry axes, or have parents who would encourage that.

They’re not hanging around the streets with girls with knives, or boys with knives.

That is a hard line that most reasonable parents would have. My kids lives are a weapon free zone, and they’re not sitting outside shops with kids who carry them.

If they need protection, come home or find an adult.

It is our job, not theirs, to protect them. If you’re the kind of parent who would prefer an axe wielding 12 year old over doing your job as their parent - I have some serious questions about your capabilities.

There was noone else to protect those kids.

That's the point.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:47

ArmySal · Yesterday 08:45

I’ve tucked a machete in my daughter’s trousers this morning, you don’t know who’s armed these days.

My 9 year old has skipped into school happily.

Polo tshirt, backpack, knuckle dusters, flame thrower.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:48

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:47

There was noone else to protect those kids.

That's the point.

Well, mum went to court to say she didn’t like watching the video of the attack, so she definitely exists.

Call me old fashioned, but mums parent, and that involves knowing where your kids are and whether they’re armed.

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:48

ArmySal · Yesterday 08:45

I’ve tucked a machete in my daughter’s trousers this morning, you don’t know who’s armed these days.

This would be funny if there weren’t so many weird responses on here making me doubt your humour.

Naunet · Yesterday 08:49

Swiftie1878 · Yesterday 08:41

This is insane, and the reason that knife crime and deaths is so endemic these days. I can’t believe an adult would encourage their child to ‘tool up’ like this! 🤷‍♀️😳

Why is the sexual abuse of children 'so endemic'? Is it because so many adults turn a blind eye to it and blame traumatised, scared kids for not being perfect instead?

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