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To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

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Hoardasurass · 11/06/2026 23:16

chirrupybird · 11/06/2026 21:21

Who knows who did what to whom first, sexual comments from the man, racial insults from the girls, who all obviously backed each other up and a young girl armed to the teeth. A really bizarre story all round.

Where is all this history of him abusing children and why wasn't he charged for any of that? He just plead guilty to pushing her during a fracas.

No his sister pled guilty to assault he was found guilty of assault and behaving in a threatening or abusive manor to all 4 girls. He made the sexual remarks and got called a fucking creep he then called his sister to come help him beat those girls up. There's cctv and video footage of the whole thing. He's the predator and should be deported along with his sister but knowing Scotlands soft touch "justice system" he'll be very unlikely to get more than a suspended sentence and community service.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/smirking-bulgarian-guilty-assaulting-12-37282604

Bulgarian man guilty of assaulting 12-year-old in 'Dundee axe girl' incident

Ilia Belov, 22, was also convicted of behaving in a `threatening or abusive manner' towards four girls, all of whom were aged between 12 and 14.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/smirking-bulgarian-guilty-assaulting-12-37282604

weefree · 11/06/2026 23:35

Keroppi · 11/06/2026 22:00

Just more evidence of classism and how it affects vulnerable girls, such as in the grooming gang victims. She's rough, mouthy and white wc so lots of centrist and left wing politicians/media blamed and demonised her initially.

Well, apart from the right and far right wing people on twitter who held her up as a folk hero. Sophie of Dundee.

Let's not forget SHE was the one initially arrested and charged, with the info released to the public straight away. They didn't arrest these two until April this year ? May be wrong.
And he was on social media telling everyone her mum was a crackhead and the girls were making a big drama out of nothing! But actually it was all lies and thank goodness he's been charged.

Obviously the child shouldn't be carrying around weapons..but clearly she doesn't feel protected by the police and a local man is sexually harassing teen girls and has a wild sister who comes and physically assaults them.. I can understand why

This! Some of these comments are wild! She was TWELVE!!

OtterlyAstounding · 11/06/2026 23:48

speakingofart · 11/06/2026 20:35

I mean honestly? They all sound equally as bad as each other, but I’m glad that he’s been found guilty as there’s no excuse for him as an adult. I assume she’s also been/ will be convicted of possessing illegal weapons and hopefully given some help to turn her life around. Not sure that newspaper story exonerates her in quite the way you hope it does…

Yes, a 12-year-old who I can only imagine, likely carried those weapons around because of past similar incidents, is just as bad as the adult man making intimidating sexual comments to her and verbally abusing her friends, before calling his sister to come attack them.

Honestly, I fucking despair at the internalised misogyny.

One could say she was foolish to carry offensive weapons around, but being a literal child, didn't have the best judgement. Then again, if she hadn't had those weapons, who knows how the situation would've played out. It might have been much worse for her and her friends.

But sure, she's just as bad as the adult pervert harassing her 🙄

AsItRains · Yesterday 01:17

I completely agree - some of the comments at the time were so disgraceful. It was truly eye opening how many were prepare to vilify a terrified young girl because an immigrant was involved, and she was a poor, white, girl.

offtodreamland · Yesterday 01:17

I'm not surprised at all to learn that he was in fact a piece of excrement. It's disappointing to see people STILL acting as though a girl doing whatever she can to protect herself and other children is somehow on the same level as an adult preying on kids. Disgusting.

AsItRains · Yesterday 01:22

Even the comments on this thread are astounding - if police refuse or are unable to keep communities safe from sexual predators - what do you think people will do?

The girl is a product of a society that fails to prioritise her, and her sisters, and her friends’ safety.

She is the end result, the symbol of a problem you seem to want to turn your back on - not the cause.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 07:05

alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 21:05

Because she was regularly being threatened and assaulted as was her sister and their friends. If she hadn't had the weapons what do you think would have happened? As it was her assaulter was so used to getting away with what he'd been doing to the girls in the area, he filmed her, reported her to the police, and did a "poor me" Daily Mail story in the days before he was arrested.

Can people actually not engage their brains about the child carrying weapons. You think she was just carrying concealed weapons because she's the type "who doesn't come out of this looking good" when by complete coincidence a pair of adults assaulted her? Or do you think she had the weapons because she and the girls in her neighbourhood were constantly being assaulted.

A lot of the guys in my area of London carry knives and guns because their peers do and they think thats the way to defend themselves. Do you know what it leads to? The epidemic of serious youth violence that we have. It leads to mothers like me seriously wondering if your kid will be safer armed than not armed. Imagine that, you actually sit down and wonder if you should encourage your son to carry a knife knowing that it will likely lead to his death or prison and then contemplating what would be better.

I can tell you that nobody would be sympathetic towards my son if he stabbed someone with a knife he carried for self defence. Nobody would say he should get less time or perhaps he was just responding to the threat of others and it is self defence.

Why would it be different when this girl.armed herself with deadly weapons?

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 07:44

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 07:05

A lot of the guys in my area of London carry knives and guns because their peers do and they think thats the way to defend themselves. Do you know what it leads to? The epidemic of serious youth violence that we have. It leads to mothers like me seriously wondering if your kid will be safer armed than not armed. Imagine that, you actually sit down and wonder if you should encourage your son to carry a knife knowing that it will likely lead to his death or prison and then contemplating what would be better.

I can tell you that nobody would be sympathetic towards my son if he stabbed someone with a knife he carried for self defence. Nobody would say he should get less time or perhaps he was just responding to the threat of others and it is self defence.

Why would it be different when this girl.armed herself with deadly weapons?

Because shes not protecting herself, her sister and her friends from other kids. She defending them from sexually predatory, violent grown men because police Scotland and the uk and Scottish government's won't.

Oh and for those posters who are going on about the girls "racially abusing" the pervert he lied just like Henry Novacks killer, it's a common lie amongst certain groups always said to try and excuse or minimise the consequences of their own behaviour and it normally works. It initially worked in this case, the girl was arrested, the police put out statements condemning her and defending him. Only after the footage went viral did the police actually investigate and arrest and charge both the man and his sister.

For to long false claims of racism have been used as a get out of jail free card or just to shut people down or have them fired. Its now long past the point that we need to arrest and prosecute everyone who makes a false claim or racism to the full extent of the law ie wasting police time, making a false report and a hate crime (separate crime under Scots law) or with a hate crime enhancement (under English law). Perhaps then when enough of these race baiters are jailed for it they will stop lieing to protect themselves

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Naunet · Yesterday 08:17

Im with you OP. I was sexually abused by my father as a child, all of the women in my family blamed me - it happened between the ages of 3 and 8. Imagine that, blaming a 3 year old for being abused by her father? And here we have it again, disgusting adult women blaming a 12 year old for being so scared she started carrying weapons. Many women seem to believe little girls need to let men do what they want and just be passive and keep their mouths shut. I find them as bad as the make abusers themselves.

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 08:19

Naunet · Yesterday 08:17

Im with you OP. I was sexually abused by my father as a child, all of the women in my family blamed me - it happened between the ages of 3 and 8. Imagine that, blaming a 3 year old for being abused by her father? And here we have it again, disgusting adult women blaming a 12 year old for being so scared she started carrying weapons. Many women seem to believe little girls need to let men do what they want and just be passive and keep their mouths shut. I find them as bad as the make abusers themselves.

Saying we shouldn’t have anyone roaming the streets armed to the teeth with axes and knives is nothing like blaming them for sexual abuse.
Your post is ridiculous leap after ridiculous leap.

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 08:19

Naunet · Yesterday 08:17

Im with you OP. I was sexually abused by my father as a child, all of the women in my family blamed me - it happened between the ages of 3 and 8. Imagine that, blaming a 3 year old for being abused by her father? And here we have it again, disgusting adult women blaming a 12 year old for being so scared she started carrying weapons. Many women seem to believe little girls need to let men do what they want and just be passive and keep their mouths shut. I find them as bad as the make abusers themselves.

Saying we shouldn’t have anyone roaming the streets armed to the teeth with axes and knives is nothing like blaming them for sexual abuse.
Your post is ridiculous leap after ridiculous leap.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 08:20

extrabeans · 11/06/2026 20:43

Bloody hell, no one comes out of that well! How is a child that age carrying a knife and an axe?! 😮

Well it’s a good job she was! Considering what happened.

Preppercorn · Yesterday 08:21

To be fair people were only criticising/denigrating her as a "whataboutery" to try and deflect from the recent Belfast attack. People like that are never going to listen to reason, they're fundamentally batshit.

Naunet · Yesterday 08:22

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 08:19

Saying we shouldn’t have anyone roaming the streets armed to the teeth with axes and knives is nothing like blaming them for sexual abuse.
Your post is ridiculous leap after ridiculous leap.

Isn't it amazing that your focus is on terrified kids carrying weapons rather than on the fact that kids should be free to play outside without being sexually threatened by grown adult men, and sometimes worse? Quicker to police scared children than grown adult males.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:22

Naunet · Yesterday 08:17

Im with you OP. I was sexually abused by my father as a child, all of the women in my family blamed me - it happened between the ages of 3 and 8. Imagine that, blaming a 3 year old for being abused by her father? And here we have it again, disgusting adult women blaming a 12 year old for being so scared she started carrying weapons. Many women seem to believe little girls need to let men do what they want and just be passive and keep their mouths shut. I find them as bad as the make abusers themselves.

I absolutely don’t believe that men should be able to do what they want.

I also don’t believe 12 year olds should have axes.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 08:23

Naunet · Yesterday 08:22

Isn't it amazing that your focus is on terrified kids carrying weapons rather than on the fact that kids should be free to play outside without being sexually threatened by grown adult men, and sometimes worse? Quicker to police scared children than grown adult males.

Yup.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 08:24

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:22

I absolutely don’t believe that men should be able to do what they want.

I also don’t believe 12 year olds should have axes.

So what what she’s meant to do? Walk around utterly defenceless so he could sexually assault her? Call the police? Who are utterly useless and more concerned with allegations of racism ?

Naunet · Yesterday 08:24

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:22

I absolutely don’t believe that men should be able to do what they want.

I also don’t believe 12 year olds should have axes.

12 year old girls generally dont carry axes. Grown adult men however regularly abuse children, so which is the bigger issue here in society?

HelenaWaiting · Yesterday 08:28

alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

I'm very glad for all concerned that the truth has come out. However, people can only respond to the information available to them and the picture when this was first reported was very different to the one that later emerged. If you're going to target people demanding apologies, I suggest that you start with the perpetrator who lied about what was happening and the press who faithfully reported his narrative. Your anger is misplaced.

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:28

AnonymityAnonymity · 11/06/2026 20:29

Yes he was in the wrong for assaulting her but she was carrying offensive weapons for heavens sake!

She got an axe and a knife when a foreign man started assaulting 12 year old girls - and she did this in order to defend them.

The police have now admitted they weren't being honest when they initially reported on the story.

Coldwetlettuce · Yesterday 08:28

I partly agree OP, maybe the world is such a dangerous place for young girls that they feel the need to carry a knife. I think he got what he deserved. A man who thinks he can get away with making disgusting sexual comments to a little girl needs to learn there might be serious consequences and that little girl might actually fight back. Why should a a young girl have to put up with that? Just quietly hang their head in shame and walk away like everyone expects them to do…that’s why men feel so entitled and confident enough to say things like this to them. Maybe it’ll help other peados learn to keep their mouths shut and their disgusting thoughts to themselves. Good on the girl. Although, “she had an axe tucked in her waistband” - how can anyone “tuck” and axe in their waistband 🤣

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:28

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 08:24

So what what she’s meant to do? Walk around utterly defenceless so he could sexually assault her? Call the police? Who are utterly useless and more concerned with allegations of racism ?

Are you genuinely saying that it’s acceptable for 12 year olds to consider in advance that they may encounter a creepy Bulgarian, so leave the house with weapons already on their person?

She already had them before she encountered him. However you dress it up, that is premeditated.

He absolutely is a creep, and convicting him and punishing him is the right thing to do, but we cannot be adding hatchets to our children’s Christmas lists.

Anyone who does allow their child access to weapons, can keep their kid away from mine.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 08:29

Naunet · Yesterday 08:24

12 year old girls generally dont carry axes. Grown adult men however regularly abuse children, so which is the bigger issue here in society?

Grown adult men, clearly.

But they are both issues.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 08:30

So she was carrying those weapons?

It’s possible to condemn an attack while also being disgusted that a 12 yo is carrying those weapons.

A 12 yo isn’t considered old enough for most things yet she’s carrying two lethal weapons

Fillies4DeclanRice · Yesterday 08:30

There are people on here so open minded that their brains have fallen out.

This man was attacking 12 year old girls.

The police, media and politicians lied about her.

She's a hero.

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