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To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

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Teethyblinders · Yesterday 14:18

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 10:52

I cannot engage with someone who not only thinks children should carry weapons, but that they’d personally hit a child.

I didn’t actually say id hit a child but I sure as fuck won’t be letting what happened to me happen to my kids. My mother actually would have done something if she wasn’t old and overweight. When my eldest is 12 I’ll be 28 and when my youngest is 12 I’ll be 36. I keep myself healthy and strong for my kids as does my husband in the gym every morning. I will be ready to drag little shits off of them if I have to.
And if a grown man is following my daughter around leering at her then me and my husband are ready to go. None of this dumb wishy washy bullshit on this thread about not condoning violence.

extrabeans · Yesterday 14:19

ArmySal · Yesterday 14:16

Well let's start from the beginning of the story as we know it.
Why did she go out with the knife and hatchet before she'd encountered the man?

She never claimed once in court that the man had harassed her before this encounter?

And no, before you try to leap on to my comment, I don't agree with grown men shouting comments to young girls, I have a daughter myself.

This ^^

Let's just stick to the known facts. And if other posters know more about the background than is in the press, as they seem to think they do, then what is it?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 14:20

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 13:48

I personally think you should be allowed to carry pepper spray. I mean I’m a woman who finishes work at 11 pm and has to walk home so yeah big fan of pepper spray which is apparently illegal now

Okay that seems reasonable. Pepper spray. Can't kill anyone but can help you get away. An axe is much different.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 14:20

ArmySal · Yesterday 14:16

Well let's start from the beginning of the story as we know it.
Why did she go out with the knife and hatchet before she'd encountered the man?

She never claimed once in court that the man had harassed her before this encounter?

And no, before you try to leap on to my comment, I don't agree with grown men shouting comments to young girls, I have a daughter myself.

I have no idea why but it’s not like she used her knife and axe to bludgeon an innocent man to death, she used them to scare off an old creep leering at her. So all this focus on her is just deflecting that a grown man was leering at a little girl

ArmySal · Yesterday 14:23

Sure, that's what it is.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 14:24

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 14:20

I have no idea why but it’s not like she used her knife and axe to bludgeon an innocent man to death, she used them to scare off an old creep leering at her. So all this focus on her is just deflecting that a grown man was leering at a little girl

Im going to tell my son to carry a zombie knife and scare off people who make him feel unsafe

Clavinova · Yesterday 14:30

extrabeans · Yesterday 13:44

Police believed him because there was video evidence from his phone of the girl holding up weapons.

Once the CCTV footage came to light it showed a completely different side to events.

I don't think this is an example of two-tier policing is it? Just an evolving understanding of events as more evidence was pieced together.

I don't think this is an example of two-tier policing is it?

Why not identify the couple or at least the nature of the charges against them?

4 September 2025

Last Wednesday (August 27) a 12-year-old girl was charged with possessing offensive weapons in the Lochee area of the city.
Now, Police Scotland says two more people have been charged in relation to the incident.
They have not identified the man or woman, or shared the nature of the charges.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 14:35

Sadly young girls are carrying weapons for protection these days. I would not advise carrying an axe in your shorts, if you slipped you’d be in trouble.
There is so much shit on the bus now, I bought a bottle of deep heat spray for my daughters school bag, she’s the sweetest girl who wouldn’t harm a fly but I am not and want her to feel protected, even if it gives you a minute advantage by spraying the attacker in the face.

ArmySal · Yesterday 14:41

Deep heat spray is good advice for when you may need to urgently get away.

I'd strongly advise little girls not to pull a weapon out on a man though unless it was absolutely life threatening circumstances.
Unless she has the element of surprise she's not going to be able to hit him hard enough, and if he's raging enough to attack her in the first place it's only going to end up one way. That goes for women too sadly.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 14:45

ArmySal · Yesterday 14:41

Deep heat spray is good advice for when you may need to urgently get away.

I'd strongly advise little girls not to pull a weapon out on a man though unless it was absolutely life threatening circumstances.
Unless she has the element of surprise she's not going to be able to hit him hard enough, and if he's raging enough to attack her in the first place it's only going to end up one way. That goes for women too sadly.

My main advice is to run but a lot of issues are happening around school time, on the bus travelling home, a quick blast will hopefully encourage others to help. These days even that’s dangerous, you don’t know who has a knife.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 15:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47202113

Imagine you tell your little girl to carry a knife and then a man stabs her, kills her, and gets away with it on self defence because you encouraged her to carry a deadly weapon.

SK

Man cleared over drill rapper Incognito's murder

Kenneth Umezie stabbed Incognito in self-defence after his watch was stolen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47202113

Clavinova · Yesterday 15:32

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 15:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47202113

Imagine you tell your little girl to carry a knife and then a man stabs her, kills her, and gets away with it on self defence because you encouraged her to carry a deadly weapon.

because you encouraged her to carry a deadly weapon

Did you encourage her to steal someone's Cartier watch at knifepoint first though?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 15:37

Clavinova · Yesterday 15:32

because you encouraged her to carry a deadly weapon

Did you encourage her to steal someone's Cartier watch at knifepoint first though?

He got self defense because he disarmed the other guy and used that knife to kill him. He wouldn't have got self defense if he chased the person who robbed him and stabbed him. The fact the guy who died was armed is what made the self defense case.

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 15:55

ArmySal · Yesterday 10:18

Why are you saying “not an axe, a hatchet”, like a hatchet is a soft toy?

Both could kill you with one blow.
Knife/machete, potato potato.

An axe is a much larger tool than a hatchet and a kitchen knife is not a machete.
We are correcting people who are intentionally trying to make the girl sound as if she was carrying much larger more dangerous weapons to paint her in a bad light and excuse or minimise what the violent sexual predator and his violent sister did.
If you want to talk about the weapons she had be accurate and discribe them accurately rather than exaggerating to make out that shes the bad one or we will assume that your defending a pedophile

Clavinova · Yesterday 15:55

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 15:37

He got self defense because he disarmed the other guy and used that knife to kill him. He wouldn't have got self defense if he chased the person who robbed him and stabbed him. The fact the guy who died was armed is what made the self defense case.

The dead man and his accomplice stole the man's watch in a street robbery - you are comparing the 12 year-old-girl with a gangland robber.

ArmySal · Yesterday 15:58

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 15:55

An axe is a much larger tool than a hatchet and a kitchen knife is not a machete.
We are correcting people who are intentionally trying to make the girl sound as if she was carrying much larger more dangerous weapons to paint her in a bad light and excuse or minimise what the violent sexual predator and his violent sister did.
If you want to talk about the weapons she had be accurate and discribe them accurately rather than exaggerating to make out that shes the bad one or we will assume that your defending a pedophile

I have. I’ve repeatedly referred to them as a hatchet and knife throughout the thread, except for my first comment where I called it an axe due to the title of the thread.
I know exactly what each item is.

Thanks for your completely irrelevant and meaningless comment though.

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 16:14

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 10:33

You cannot use a totally separate and unrelated event, in another country no less, to justify vigilante behaviour elsewhere.

People should not be allowed to walk around armed with axes and knives, it goes without saying that children are included.

Predators should face harsh legal penalties for things like sexual abuse, far more than is often dished out, and people should not arm themselves and publicly brandish weapons like knives and axes. It’s not an either/ or scenario.
Thinking someone shouldn’t be on the street with an axe does not mean you think a predator should have no consequences.

Did you say the same about George Floyd and the BLM or is that different as were talking about a poor white girl rather than a repeat criminal drug addict black man?
As for the grooming gangs they operate here in Scotland too there's even been girls trafficked from England to Scotland but the police still won't accept, admit or acknowledge the fact let alone do anything about it because of the anti racism bs that they follow up here and what the police did was exactly what they all do when its a poor white girl vs an immigrant and/or "minority" ie blame the white girls and believe the immigrant. So yes its exactly the same crap police behaviour that is causing this.
You do realise that white girls matter even the poor ones and matter more than pedophiles of any colour or religion

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 16:23

8TinyToeBeans · Yesterday 10:45

I can't see anything in the article stating that this was an ongoing issue. It reads like this is the first interaction.
He shouldn't have said what he did. Personally, I don't think the girls should have escalated it but I understand the desire to stand up for yourself - it would have been safer to ignore him. He wanted a reaction and they gave him it. And when they escalated, he should have acted like an adult and walked away.
But none of that answers why a child is carrying weapons. She's no hero. There's something seriously flawed with that mentality. Lochee is rough as a badgers arse, so maybe it's a product of a specific mentality, but it shouldn't be normalised or praised.

He made sexually explicit remarks to the little girls they called him a "fucking creep" he then called his sister and they both went back to attack the girls (which they've both now got criminal records for) and only after the grown man and his grown sister started physically attacking the girls did one of them brandish weapons in self defence which is why she was only done with possession of bladed articles and not with intent or for threatening him.
All of the escalation came from him and his sister not the girls so perhaps you should think about why you are so determined to paint the girls in a bad light to minimise 2 violent adults 1 of whom is also a sexual predator who like little girls

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 16:24

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 15:55

An axe is a much larger tool than a hatchet and a kitchen knife is not a machete.
We are correcting people who are intentionally trying to make the girl sound as if she was carrying much larger more dangerous weapons to paint her in a bad light and excuse or minimise what the violent sexual predator and his violent sister did.
If you want to talk about the weapons she had be accurate and discribe them accurately rather than exaggerating to make out that shes the bad one or we will assume that your defending a pedophile

So the OP must be defending a pedophile since she chose to share an article which specifically states the girl was carrying an axe?

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 16:26

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 16:23

He made sexually explicit remarks to the little girls they called him a "fucking creep" he then called his sister and they both went back to attack the girls (which they've both now got criminal records for) and only after the grown man and his grown sister started physically attacking the girls did one of them brandish weapons in self defence which is why she was only done with possession of bladed articles and not with intent or for threatening him.
All of the escalation came from him and his sister not the girls so perhaps you should think about why you are so determined to paint the girls in a bad light to minimise 2 violent adults 1 of whom is also a sexual predator who like little girls

Good posts.

Although I have no idea why there is 17 pages discussing whether a little girl was in the wrong for defending herself against a predator.
Why is it even up for debate at this point. “Call the police” people say yeah because that has a track record for helping.

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 16:27

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 16:14

Did you say the same about George Floyd and the BLM or is that different as were talking about a poor white girl rather than a repeat criminal drug addict black man?
As for the grooming gangs they operate here in Scotland too there's even been girls trafficked from England to Scotland but the police still won't accept, admit or acknowledge the fact let alone do anything about it because of the anti racism bs that they follow up here and what the police did was exactly what they all do when its a poor white girl vs an immigrant and/or "minority" ie blame the white girls and believe the immigrant. So yes its exactly the same crap police behaviour that is causing this.
You do realise that white girls matter even the poor ones and matter more than pedophiles of any colour or religion

Please enlighten me how George Floyd or BLM remotely relates to a single thing from my post that you chose to respond to.

At this point is this a coordinated thing? So many posters/ bots responding to comments basically “what about BLM huhhhb?” When it bares no relevance whatsoever to the post or topic being discussed.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 16:31

Honeyhonay · Yesterday 16:27

Please enlighten me how George Floyd or BLM remotely relates to a single thing from my post that you chose to respond to.

At this point is this a coordinated thing? So many posters/ bots responding to comments basically “what about BLM huhhhb?” When it bares no relevance whatsoever to the post or topic being discussed.

Chunkymonkey is gone now but she slid in a snide comment about bins being thrown around in Southampton.

Although the same people were cheering on the looting and rioting during the George Floyd era. But god forbid a bin be knocked over in Southampton because people are angry a white teenager was killed in Britain (as opposed to a middle aged ex convict in the states)

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 16:36

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 16:31

Chunkymonkey is gone now but she slid in a snide comment about bins being thrown around in Southampton.

Although the same people were cheering on the looting and rioting during the George Floyd era. But god forbid a bin be knocked over in Southampton because people are angry a white teenager was killed in Britain (as opposed to a middle aged ex convict in the states)

I haven’t gone? I was finishing work. Went to the tip too.

I did say I didn’t cheer the BLM riots. No need to make things up just because you thought I’d vanished.

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 16:44

Both he and his sister battered the child in question. A man and woman in their twenties battering a 12 year old in the street and she gets the pile on? FFS. Julie Bindel and Kathleen Stock joined in the pile on. Not taking anything they say seriously anymore.

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 17:09

Lougle · Yesterday 12:22

"He was threatening me and saying sexy things...." "Ok, what did you do?" "Well I pulled out my axe and machete and...."

Not a typical response or solution, wouldn't you say??

Well as that didn't happen i dont see the relevance.

What really happened is
He made sexual remarks to little girls, got called a fucking creep for it, went away called his sister, met her then they both went back looking for the girl's, found them and started physically attacking them and THEN the girl got out her KITCHEN knife and HATCHET not a machete or an axe.

It would be really helpful if people stopped making things up about this girl and the actions of all involved