To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

Ever heard of per capita?

What would have happened to that little girl if she hadn’t been carrying her knife? I for one am glad she managed to scare him off

And what happens if she gets in a random argument with somebody one day while
having a knife and axe in her waistband?

Plenty of people have had it worse than this man and still dont go around sexually harassing and shoving little girls. Amazing how its so normalised that some people hardly even seem to register that HE is the violent abuser here, and instead focus on the much, much rarer situation of a 12 year old girl carrying weapons. Why cant we focus on the real danger to society here? It really is shocking.

It’s nothing to do with being poor and everything to do with being safe. I grew up in a middle class home in a normal town and had bullies chasing me and knocking my teeth out, I know people who grew up dirt poor and didn’t deal with that. So being poor is irrelevant.

That girl carrying a knife and hatchet may have saved her life

It wasn’t a random argument it was a predatory adult man following her around

There is no evidence she ever attacked anyone or regularly carried weapons. Why are you demonising her?

Per capita is not a majority of standings like your initial claim.

Most knife crime incidents are still perpetrated by white criminals, what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Why do you feel the need to deflect to totally random things?

Are you aware Adolescence was not a documentary?

You know people are capable of two thoughts at once?

I'd lock up every predatory man because of the harm they cause women and girls.

I don't think anyone should be arming themselves with weapons when they go out.

Nobody has defended him sexually harrassing a girl.

People have been defending her walking the streets with an axe and a knife.

I WAS SAYING IT IN RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO SAID WE ARE LOOKING DOWN OUR NOSES AT HER.

And yet the focus for some posters speaks for itself, hand wave his actions as "yeah its bad, but..." and then endless paragraphs about her.

That is absolutely horrific Naunet, I'm so sorry you went through that - but surely you wouldn't suggest that children keeping a knife on them is the best thing to do if they are being sexually abused by a parent (or anyone else).

A child with a knife, especially at just 12 years old, is at huge risk of being over powered and having it used against them.

There is evidence she carried a knife and an axe. She had it on her.

I don’t see why history of offending is relevant. Is it ok for all the kids who walk the streets with a knife to have one on them as long as they don’t have a history of offending and there is no evidence they don’t routinely have one.

Did you miss the word regularly? Or did you think with kids its a matter of guilty until proven innocent? Do it once and its fair to assume you do it all the time? And obviously it not ok, but it is understandable, do you get the difference?

Police immediately believed the Bulgarian attackers, then along with Scottish MPs, embarked on a misinformation campaign. Hamza Yusuf called it "far right bullshit".

And people wonder why there are riots 🙄

No of course not, and i haven't. What I've said is that its understandable why this girl thought it was her best option, and that our focus should be on these men and keeping kids safe from them rather than demonising her. Apparently that view is something a lot of people here dont like though.

This is a seriously fucked up post.

When little girls have to start carrying weapons to defend themselves there is some very wrong with our society.

And YOU with this piece of bullshit post are an example of what is wrong.

Believe women, eh? Unless they are poor kids, then they deserve what they get.

Majority of actual stabbings are committed by black men in London
Factually Incorrect

I don’t think any kid should have knives and axes on their person. Whether once, thrice or routinely.

Edit - Misquoted.

Look I have no idea who said what at this point and am just making general points. Having that knife may have saved her from sexual assault as we’ve seen the uk government care more about being anti racist then they do little white girls.

Then multiple posters piped up saying they grew up poor and never had to carry a knife well good for them I know people who grew up poor and grew up safely other than financially. Personally I grew up in a middle class family but had bullies waiting round the corner of my house and beating the crap out of me. Being poor is kind of irrelevant especially as we accept more and more adult male migrants and spread them around the country. You will see a lot more young girls carrying pepper spray. Rich poor and middle class aside

Yes and my son is a Black boy in London who is at risk of being a victim of knife crime as statistics show. Should he then arm himself with a knife to defend himself against murder like you think this little white girl should arm herself with an axe to defend herself against rape?

If not, why not?

From published London Assembly statistics:

"Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators"

Granted this is murder rather than stabbings but I would think that the percentages are similar

This is the weakness in that posters argument. Most of the boys who carry knives do so because they feel in danger and the police cannot protect them.

Still makes it wrong.

So not stats that support what they said and still irrelevant to this case in Dundee.