To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

Literally on this thread posters have said she was as bad as him for christ sake.

So what was I meant to do? What would have been the right thing?

She's lucky he didnt take it from her and kill her with it. It really could be self defence on his part.

Self defence???

That’s what I’m asking? But as I said my bullies knew where I lived would follow me until I was somewhere with no cctv and then beat the crap out of me. I had teeth knocked out.

Has that happened to your kids? I sincerely hope it doesn’t because then you’ll find out how useful the police in modern Britain really are.

Have I?

Or have I said that two things can be true at once - he is a predator receiving the rightful punishment, she shouldn’t be carrying a hatchet down the street.

You’re taking something entirely beyond my control out on me, using words I actually haven’t said.

That's not really an accurate account of the Sheriff's finding.
Speaking to Belov 'I am entirely satisfied by proof beyond reasonable doubt that the trigger for all of this were the comments that you made.”
“Wholly unconvincing and self-serving”
“Neither credible nor reliable”
Describing his testimony as a “revisionist” or “excuse” account .

He specifically noted that the girls were 'eloquent' witnesses, especially given their age and that their accounts were consistent with each other and with CCTV.

Given the way the judicial system functions it's unreasonable to assert we don't know what happened when the sherriff was emphatic in his findings. And he found that there were sexual comments made.

This just leads to more kids with knives and more knife deaths.

This thread is not about you and your backstory, it’s literally irrelevant to this case of whether it’s acceptable to carry an axe on your person in the UK.

Majority of stabbings are done by black males living in London involved in gangs.

Let’s not act like a scared little girl trying to scare off a predator is the same

I can confirm that when we were in a playground last summer and a 15 year old knocked my then 8 year old off his feet, completely unprovoked, kicked him and called him a mong, I did not punch him in the face.

This year when a grown man shouted in his face and pushed him, I didn’t hit him either, or go home for a weapon.

Because that, is illegal.

Stop making out like your personal experiences dictate what other people should be doing.

You’re not a Scottish 12 year old girl, what happened to you, and the discrimination my kid faces every day, have precisely nothing to do with this.

12 year olds shouldn’t have weapons, and adults shouldn’t hit kids, end of story.

Yes many of them asserting that on the estates they live they feel the need to carry knives for protection. Same as the reason that poster gave.

Gender and race and city is irrelevant so no idea why you keep mentioning it. Kids asserting they need to carry knives for protection just leads to more kids carrying knives and more risks
of more knife deaths and injuries.

It’s wrong across the board. Including when you did it.

You typed up a whole backstory about growing up poor and having holes in your shoes, you’re in no position to be saying people shouldn’t mention personal stories.

You having holes in your shoes had nothing to do with a 12 year old girl getting creeped on by a grown man

Who is allowed or not allowed to carry an axe has nothing to do with the demographic of people who commit more stabbing.

I’m not more allowed to walk through town with a weapon because I’m a tiny 5ft woman.

Eh?

I didn’t say anything about holey shoes. Are we just making shit up now?

My point however is that being deprived and vulnerable doesn’t make violence or carrying weapons acceptable, because nothing does.

Which… it doesn’t.

I didn't say you had, but what you did say was "Nobody has said “just as bad,” they said… bad." which is bullshit.

I can see youre full of policing of what little girls shouldn't do in this situation, but very little on what they should do, or even what we as society should be doing to protect children from preditor men. It is OUR fault as a society, that little girls in this country feel they have to resort to carrying weapons to protect themselves, and focusing on the actions of this child over the disgusting male, is part of the problem.

Tell that to the people who think stop and search is racist (even though it saves black males from other black males) but wax lyrical about a little white girl having a knife to protect herself and assume she must be the bad one. Because some of us remember the victim blaming of last summer when everyone was saying she was just a troubled rat from a bad family

Dunno, you’re the one who keeps bringing busses up

The bus came up because you claimed the girls 'were sat on a street corner' - the court was told they were walking to catch a bus. Then you claimed they were 'hanging around a park' when they were assaulted without any evidence of that either.

I was working on the understanding you’d like my kid to get one

In several posts you implied you had more than one child and of a similar age to the girls.

Yep there are almost no people of my demographic stabbing people yet I still
think it would be wrong of me to wonder the streets with a knife and axe stuck in my waistband.

I wasn’t aware this thread was about the stop and search policy on young black men, why would I have commented on that over the topic of the discussion.

Plenty of people have shared there backgrounds on here, i dont need your policing and ignorance thanks.

You’re making no sense and seem obsessed with black boys in London. What does that have to do with people saying no kid should be walking the street with knives and axes.

Because that’s where the majority of fatal stabbings occur and yet they made adolescence about a white boy and drone on about a little girl trying to scare off a predator as if it’s the same thing

London is 475 miles away from Dundee.

You know, just for context.

The majority of stabbing incidents in the UK is still by white perpetrators, not that any of this is remotely relevant.
You seem to think that because some young black boys illegally and wrongly carry knives that it’s fair game for a girl to carry an axe.
One does not justify the other, it’s literally not relevant or comparable.

I said that. In response to how vulnerable this girl was and how everyone here is looking down their noses at her with how poor she is.
Some have had it worse, some still live in worse conditions and don't go out carrying knives and hatchets.

I am not sure if your data on where most stabbings per capita occurs is correct but what does that have to do with saying no child should be walking the street with an axe and a knife?

And why are you waffling on about TV shows? This is about saying she should not have a knife and axe.