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To let you know the axe and machete girl WAS defending herself against her now convicted attacker.

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alittleprivacy · 11/06/2026 20:22

A lot of posters here need to see the conclusion of this story about the clearly terrified child, that so many people were quick to be awful about. You all owe this extremely vulnerable child you participated in the defamation of, a massive fucking apology. I'm genuinely so angry about how so many grown women denigrated a hurt and scared child. Her fear was so evident in her voice and demeanor and so many mothers here were quick to throw her under a bus. Well you've all been proven wrong now, with the man she was trying to defend herself from found guilty of assault.

Honestly, just think about what you people did, defending a man who assaulted a child just because she was of a class you deem beneath you. I hope you're very, very ashamed and take stock before more girls like her suffer worse.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/bulgarian-man-guilty-of-assaulting-12-year-old-girl/a/156878498.html

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 12:26

extrabeans · Yesterday 12:22

The evidence was the testimony of the girls, which the judge was inclined to believe over the man's claims. There were no third party witnesses, and the CCTV only captured pictures not sound.

So there may have been sexual and/or racist remarks, but we can't state that as a fact.

It doesn't affect the outcome of the case, as the charges related to the physical assault, not anything that was said. But people keep repeating that the man was a sexual predator and I'm not sure there's any objective evidence of this, unless other posters know more than what's in the article?

You disagree with the judgment and you think the man was unfairly convicted?

I suppose you have your reasons for this.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 12:28

Lougle · Yesterday 12:22

"He was threatening me and saying sexy things...." "Ok, what did you do?" "Well I pulled out my axe and machete and...."

Not a typical response or solution, wouldn't you say??

She was 12.

No one has a business saying ‘sexy things’ to a 12 year old.

extrabeans · Yesterday 12:29

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 12:26

You disagree with the judgment and you think the man was unfairly convicted?

I suppose you have your reasons for this.

No, I said quite clearly in the post you quoted that he was rightly convicted of physical assault.

But I'm curious where people are getting the idea he's a serial sexual predator? They may be right (I don't know) but it's not supported by anything I've read. I prefer to stick to the facts.

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:29

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 11:46

It’s not privilege.

As I have mentioned in PPs - I grew up in the NE, on a deprived council estate, with children and families who had not a single pot to piss in.

My father is a violent alcoholic. We were referred to social services by the time I was 8.

Many of those I went to school with who did carry weapons are now either dead or in prison.

You can be from a challenging background and not resort to that, and suggesting otherwise places absolutely no confidence in people from those backgrounds to be able to be anything else.

This expectation that being poor means you have to carry an axe to protect yourself, or go into Southampton to throw bins around, has to stop. Poverty does not have to mean violent, and using it as a reason to excuse it does absolutely nobody any favours.

I’m saying that as someone who has actually lived it.

It’s not about being poor it’s about people thinking a little girl is in the wrong for trying to defend herself from a grown pervert.
I didn’t grow up in a poor neighbourhood but I did get bullied so badly I had teeth knocked out that’s why I started taking a pocket knife out with me.

I find your comment about wheely bins in Southampton strange considering your type were cheering on the BLM carnage 5 years ago.

It’s not just poor people who’ve had enough of the way this country is going

Clavinova · Yesterday 12:30

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:21

I can’t say it any clearer - I wouldn’t allow my kids to catch a bus with their friends if an alternative was available.

We’re discussing a case that involves a predatory man, and a pre-teen with an axe, why would it be shocking news that I’d keep my kids away from both of those things?

I can’t say it any clearer - I wouldn’t allow my kids to catch a bus with their friends if an alternative was available.

You keep changing your mind! In the post I replied to you said;

My way of doing that involves not letting them catch the bus with a group of girls, one of whom who thinks it acceptable to carry weapons because she’s not been taught otherwise. That presents a risk I’m not comfortable with my children being exposed to.

Now you've gone back to not catching buses with any friends.

ArmySal · Yesterday 12:31

Does anyone ever read comments sometimes and get very fearful that they may one day be on trial, and your jury of peers are selected randomly? May just be me 🤷🏼‍♀️

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:34

Clavinova · Yesterday 12:30

I can’t say it any clearer - I wouldn’t allow my kids to catch a bus with their friends if an alternative was available.

You keep changing your mind! In the post I replied to you said;

My way of doing that involves not letting them catch the bus with a group of girls, one of whom who thinks it acceptable to carry weapons because she’s not been taught otherwise. That presents a risk I’m not comfortable with my children being exposed to.

Now you've gone back to not catching buses with any friends.

Why are you so bothered if my kids get the bus or not, out of interest?

For all who are interested.. I have one child, he is 9 years old.

He is profoundly autistic and severely disabled so is not able to catch a bus, or have the wherewithal to gather an axe.

He is already bullied by children who yell things at him, push him over, and throw things at him in playgrounds.

He is vulnerable because of his needs and could easily, if not properly cared for, be abused by anyone and not be able to defend himself or tell anyone.

Still, no hatchets or knives.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:35

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:29

It’s not about being poor it’s about people thinking a little girl is in the wrong for trying to defend herself from a grown pervert.
I didn’t grow up in a poor neighbourhood but I did get bullied so badly I had teeth knocked out that’s why I started taking a pocket knife out with me.

I find your comment about wheely bins in Southampton strange considering your type were cheering on the BLM carnage 5 years ago.

It’s not just poor people who’ve had enough of the way this country is going

I wasn’t cheering on BLM riots, because I don’t cheer on riots.

I don’t cheer on anyone of any background behaving violently whatsoever.

Not sure therefore what “my type” is, you must have me confused with someone else.

Naunet · Yesterday 12:36

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:34

Why are you so bothered if my kids get the bus or not, out of interest?

For all who are interested.. I have one child, he is 9 years old.

He is profoundly autistic and severely disabled so is not able to catch a bus, or have the wherewithal to gather an axe.

He is already bullied by children who yell things at him, push him over, and throw things at him in playgrounds.

He is vulnerable because of his needs and could easily, if not properly cared for, be abused by anyone and not be able to defend himself or tell anyone.

Still, no hatchets or knives.

But if he ever did grab a knife, hed be just as bad as those attacking him, right, and would deserve to be charged? Youd have no sympathy at all....

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 12:37

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:29

It’s not about being poor it’s about people thinking a little girl is in the wrong for trying to defend herself from a grown pervert.
I didn’t grow up in a poor neighbourhood but I did get bullied so badly I had teeth knocked out that’s why I started taking a pocket knife out with me.

I find your comment about wheely bins in Southampton strange considering your type were cheering on the BLM carnage 5 years ago.

It’s not just poor people who’ve had enough of the way this country is going

As earlier stated, many of us live in areas where our kids are at constant threat of being stabbed. We still don't encourage our kids to arm themselves in defense against other people who want to kill them and have similar or more dangerous weapons. Why would you encourage a little girl to.carry an axe for somewhat similar reasons? She's lucky he didnt take it from her and kill her with it. It really could be self defence on his part.

MrsColinRobinson · Yesterday 12:37

extrabeans · Yesterday 12:29

No, I said quite clearly in the post you quoted that he was rightly convicted of physical assault.

But I'm curious where people are getting the idea he's a serial sexual predator? They may be right (I don't know) but it's not supported by anything I've read. I prefer to stick to the facts.

We're quoting him as being a sexual predator because we believe the girls claims that he approached them initially with sexual comments. They're preteen ffs, just children to his 22 adult years.

Perhaps you don't believe these forms of crime victims who usually only rely upon unwitnessed evidence? What would you regard as sufficient to believe a child who reports sexual abuse?

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:37

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:35

I wasn’t cheering on BLM riots, because I don’t cheer on riots.

I don’t cheer on anyone of any background behaving violently whatsoever.

Not sure therefore what “my type” is, you must have me confused with someone else.

Yeah you don’t condone violence we get it. And yet you have no workable solution for what a little girl getting creeped on by a grown man should do? Even when he’s been violent first.

Clavinova · Yesterday 12:37

Lougle · Yesterday 12:22

"He was threatening me and saying sexy things...." "Ok, what did you do?" "Well I pulled out my axe and machete and...."

Not a typical response or solution, wouldn't you say??

The man had already pushed the 12-year-old girl to the ground before she took out her weapons, so not just saying 'sexy things' - he assaulted her as well.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 12:38

ArmySal · Yesterday 12:31

Does anyone ever read comments sometimes and get very fearful that they may one day be on trial, and your jury of peers are selected randomly? May just be me 🤷🏼‍♀️

They might even be ‘rough as toast’ the lot of them.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:38

Naunet · Yesterday 12:36

But if he ever did grab a knife, hed be just as bad as those attacking him, right, and would deserve to be charged? Youd have no sympathy at all....

If he ever commits a crime, I’d expect him to be charged with it, yeah.

Not that controversial a view.

ArmySal · Yesterday 12:39

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 12:38

They might even be ‘rough as toast’ the lot of them.

Wouldn’t bother me if they were, as long as they had comprehension abilities

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:39

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 12:37

As earlier stated, many of us live in areas where our kids are at constant threat of being stabbed. We still don't encourage our kids to arm themselves in defense against other people who want to kill them and have similar or more dangerous weapons. Why would you encourage a little girl to.carry an axe for somewhat similar reasons? She's lucky he didnt take it from her and kill her with it. It really could be self defence on his part.

Majority of knife crime is committed by black men living in London. Not by little girls carrying knives for defence.

Are you one who thinks stop and search was racist? The solution to men in London stabbing each other is clearly to demonise a little girl on the internet.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:39

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:37

Yeah you don’t condone violence we get it. And yet you have no workable solution for what a little girl getting creeped on by a grown man should do? Even when he’s been violent first.

What do you think the rest of us do, when it doesn’t involve letting our kids have weapons or punching kids ourselves (as you suggested)?

Naunet · Yesterday 12:41

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:38

If he ever commits a crime, I’d expect him to be charged with it, yeah.

Not that controversial a view.

And youd have no sympathy or understand of this actions, yes?

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:45

Naunet · Yesterday 12:41

And youd have no sympathy or understand of this actions, yes?

There’s not a sympathy law, unfortunately. It’s just either a crime or it isn’t, and carrying a hatchet is.

If he commits a crime that could be excused either by his needs, or by his vulnerabilities, it would remain a crime and I’d expect him to be punished for it.

Unless what you’re telling me is in the unlikely event he hurts someone I can just say “welllll he is autistic 🤷🏻‍♀️”?

Clavinova · Yesterday 12:45

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:34

Why are you so bothered if my kids get the bus or not, out of interest?

For all who are interested.. I have one child, he is 9 years old.

He is profoundly autistic and severely disabled so is not able to catch a bus, or have the wherewithal to gather an axe.

He is already bullied by children who yell things at him, push him over, and throw things at him in playgrounds.

He is vulnerable because of his needs and could easily, if not properly cared for, be abused by anyone and not be able to defend himself or tell anyone.

Still, no hatchets or knives.

Why are you so bothered if my kids get the bus or not, out of interest?

I'm not specifically interested in your child. What has your 9 year-old got to do with girls aged 12-14 being able to walk to a bus stop on their own without being assaulted by strange men ?

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:46

Clavinova · Yesterday 12:45

Why are you so bothered if my kids get the bus or not, out of interest?

I'm not specifically interested in your child. What has your 9 year-old got to do with girls aged 12-14 being able to walk to a bus stop on their own without being assaulted by strange men ?

Dunno, you’re the one who keeps bringing busses up, I was working on the understanding you’d like my kid to get one.

Like you were a bus company representative or something.

JHound · Yesterday 12:46

Teethyblinders · Yesterday 12:39

Majority of knife crime is committed by black men living in London. Not by little girls carrying knives for defence.

Are you one who thinks stop and search was racist? The solution to men in London stabbing each other is clearly to demonise a little girl on the internet.

A lot of those black boys (and it’s mainly boys not men) equally state they carry knives because they feel they need to for protection.

Some of us don’t care about gender. We just don’t think anybody should routinely carry knives (and axes) irrespective of gender (or race.)

The issue is when carrying one if an altercation erupts it can often become deadly.

Two things can be true at the same time. The man in this case was the perpetrator and rightly punished. But the girl who walks around tooled up with a knife and an axe is also a problem.

Naunet · Yesterday 12:48

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:39

What do you think the rest of us do, when it doesn’t involve letting our kids have weapons or punching kids ourselves (as you suggested)?

In fact maybe you can tell me what I should have done when my dad was sexually abusing me? Don't worry, I never defended myself so the poor man was never hurt - phew! But seeing as everyone seemed to blame me for his 'attention', what was i meant to do at 3-8 years old? Please do enlighten me of my 500 options. Would I have been just as bad as him if id ever kept a knife under my pillow?

ChunkyMonkey36 · Yesterday 12:49

Naunet · Yesterday 12:48

In fact maybe you can tell me what I should have done when my dad was sexually abusing me? Don't worry, I never defended myself so the poor man was never hurt - phew! But seeing as everyone seemed to blame me for his 'attention', what was i meant to do at 3-8 years old? Please do enlighten me of my 500 options. Would I have been just as bad as him if id ever kept a knife under my pillow?

Nobody has said “just as bad,” they said… bad.

I’ve also never said you had 500 options, that was a different poster.