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To not support England?!

463 replies

Feetballislife · 11/06/2026 10:12

Live and work in England. Not English. My team didn’t qualify for the World Cup so I’m supporting Scotland! Lobe a plucky underdog, have some Scots heritage ( and some English to be fair) plus I NEVER support English sports teams. EVER.
Football has inevitably come up in the office and several colleagues are generally pissed off that I’m not supporting England, insist I should be etc etc. Stupidly I mentioned that I never support England … did not gone down well.
If you live here then you should etc etc

YANBU - support who you like!
YABU - you ingrate, you live in the country you should support the national team.

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pizzaHeart · 12/06/2026 21:54

of course you support whoever you want but the way you said it sounded a bit confrontational. And depending on your tone / facial expression it could have come across as very confrontational.
“I always support (insert where you are from) team” sounds a bit differently.
By the way I’m in your situation and I support England but I do it absolutely voluntarily 😆

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:59

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:26

I think historians probably know what they are talking about. I read the dark hair is more a throwback to the people who lived in Ireland before the Celts.

Can I ask why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder? Even when we have lighthearted moments in this thread, in you come playing the victim. It’s tedious tbh.

MoreEspressoLessDepresso · 12/06/2026 22:00

I'm not a football fan but most of my colleagues are. And by and large, they're all supporting whoever it is they picked in the work sweepstake Grin

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:03

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 21:31

Yes, but if you announce to your colleagues that you support any team but England, while continuing to live here, you are making a statement about how you feel about the country. That's why it went down badly with the OP's colleagues.

It’s grown men kicking a ball about a park. If a joke about it went down badly then that says more about the immaturity of the colleagues than the OP.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 22:04

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 21:59

Can I ask why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder? Even when we have lighthearted moments in this thread, in you come playing the victim. It’s tedious tbh.

Huh? Maybe I misunderstood and you were joking about me being there. Tone isn't always easy to interpret. Certainly not playing the victim.

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:06

MrBernardCheeseman · 12/06/2026 21:35

You sound like you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Behave. Nobody cares.

You do 🤣

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:08

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 22:04

Huh? Maybe I misunderstood and you were joking about me being there. Tone isn't always easy to interpret. Certainly not playing the victim.

Read your own posts!

Differentforgirls · 12/06/2026 22:09

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

Ok. See if you think that, and you maybe right, I don’t know. Why pander to it? Just scroll by.

Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 22:24

MoreEspressoLessDepresso · 12/06/2026 22:00

I'm not a football fan but most of my colleagues are. And by and large, they're all supporting whoever it is they picked in the work sweepstake Grin

That’s the correct attitude!

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Feetballislife · 12/06/2026 22:25

BMW58 · 12/06/2026 22:06

What a sad little life this person must have to make endless threads denigrating the English.

We seem to be living rent-free in her head.

You’re mixing me up with someone else. I don’t usually start threads at all! Though I’m unsurprised there’s a load of football threads popping up, it is the World Cup.

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Gcol · 12/06/2026 22:42

People are not bothered about this World Cup. Factors include
. Trump and his visas. Plus controlling Infantino such as the crass FIFA peace trophy
. Matches being played as late as 3am BST
. More teams, more matches, more fatigue

Normally I see many homes with at least one flag on it. I have seen just one. May get more as England’s first match is Wednesday

Grghf · 12/06/2026 22:48

I lived in an EU country and always supported it. Youre kind of missing out on a vibe of togetherness and the opportunity to feel part of something

keffie12 · 12/06/2026 23:14

I'm a massive football supporter! Bought up on it and spoon-fed the beautiful game. I'm club before country. I'm British born, in England. I don't support England. They aren't my first team. My international team has not qualified. I'll watch in general though I'm not rooting for one particular team

ThatLemonBee · Yesterday 05:23

Lived 19 years in England and would never support them !

Grghf · Yesterday 05:45

ThatLemonBee · Yesterday 05:23

Lived 19 years in England and would never support them !

Why?

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 06:17

ElvirRamcic · 11/06/2026 11:25

Support who you like but don’t be surprised if you announce it to a workplace full of England fans and they don’t warmly embrace your decision.

Why? I'm not interested in football and don't live in the UK but the people I worked with knew that when it came to rugby my support was for a team from the other side of the world who I had no affiliation with - other than some of my family came from there many generations ago, which was not the reason. Everyone was fine with it. As were the people I stood beside at the venues watching the games. We all exchanged some banter and it was all very good natured. Why do the English have to be so different and take it all so seriously?

2021x · Yesterday 06:26

If RageBait was a person….

Justveryveryangry · Yesterday 07:08

TheJuryIsOut · 11/06/2026 10:21

Oh and the way you've worded it "I'd NEVER support English sport teams EVER" it does come across as a bit, I don't know, pointed?

Agreed, it’s not that you don’t support England, it’s that you seem so passionate about never ever supporting them, as though you have a hatred for the country you live in. That’s the issue for me.

mellongoose · Yesterday 07:11

Support who you like, but don’t do the performative anti-English thing. Most people are nice.

GreenWheat · Yesterday 07:16

I think there is a difference between not being particularly behind the sports teams of your chosen adopted homeland, and performatively supporting neighbouring teams with whom you have no heritage or connection.

Lovelycrazycatgirl · Yesterday 07:39

5MinuteArgument · 12/06/2026 20:39

You live in England but support any team but England and you have told your colleagues this. Unsurprisingly they are irritated. Nowhere else in the world would this be OK.

If you feel such disdain for England, why do you live here?

It is OP's choice. At least OP is being honest. I am from England and I do not support England and people can live where they want.

Grghf · Yesterday 07:45

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 06:17

Why? I'm not interested in football and don't live in the UK but the people I worked with knew that when it came to rugby my support was for a team from the other side of the world who I had no affiliation with - other than some of my family came from there many generations ago, which was not the reason. Everyone was fine with it. As were the people I stood beside at the venues watching the games. We all exchanged some banter and it was all very good natured. Why do the English have to be so different and take it all so seriously?

Isn't into football...
Isn't in the UK....
Clicks on England football thread

MirrorMirror1247 · Yesterday 09:13

DontBuyAnotherBook · 12/06/2026 21:25

If that was the other way round I bet you would have felt more under threat. Certainly more dangerous.

Not at all. We don't actually hate the English, you know. An English person wearing an England top in Scotland isn't going to get attacked. At worst they'll have some banter directed to them.

Feetballislife · Yesterday 09:30

Grghf · Yesterday 07:45

Isn't into football...
Isn't in the UK....
Clicks on England football thread

Yup! As they say here a lot of- not interested? Then jog on!

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