To be increasung concerned about Restore Britain.

[NoisyHiker]

I know many people don't like Owen Jones, but I found this article deeply disturbing.

I am a child of immigrants, and my children are mixed race. So things like this are really starting to worry me.

I completely understand why people are angry at the current rate and quality of immigration (my own family are also disgruntled with it). But Restore want to deport even those who have citizenship.

And I am genuinely concerned that things are going to get worse than Farage if the government don't get a grip on this.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/10/restore-britain-right-politics-white-supremacist

I know someone that voted Reform Scottish election because of stop the boats...erm UK government decide immigration policy.
Thick fucker.

The problem is many of the so called "skilled" immigrants work in kebab shops. They are not skilled in any way but get classified as skilled. I also think immigrants should have to speak English. There are parts of Birmingham where the men can speak English but the wives can't and font leave their community. The DC learn English at school. Sometimes there are multiple wives who all claim benefits. This is bigamy and against the law in the UK so our benefit system should not reward multiple wives.

You are right. If posters such as @LakieLady would do a little research they might see things a little differently.

For instance, take any big city of a million people. How many hospitals, schools, courts, drs surgeries etc, does it have?

Now take into account the pace of immigration, most of it landing in England.

Also take into account that kids (I believe under 18s but that might not be quite right) are not included in immigration figures. Nor are their kids born here. Each person has the entitlement to bring a partner or other family over at some point.

It is ludicrous to suggest that anything other than rapid population increase is the primary cause of strain on public services.

And frankly, I don’t want to see green belt being built on, increasing sprawl, building on former farm land and woodland etc. The left keep banging on about CO2, and they are especially keen on keeping open borders as far as possible. Mind you, the Greens don’t seem to be interested in the environment these days, or wildlife for that matter.

A lot of migrants are told that the UK is a land of milk and honey by people smugglers. They are also told that the journey will be safe, that the life jackets won't be filled with water absorbing material, that they won't be held ransome in Libya for more money from their families or sex trafficked or forced into slavery. The People Smugglers lie and it's in their interests to oversell the UK because they make money from people coming to them. It's not like there is an ombudsman you can complain to.
Just because a migrant says they are coming to the UK/EU for something it doesn't mean they are entitled to it. I would argue that a far bigger problem than what is actually on offer on the UK is the false beliefs of people in other countries. So the best way to fix that is by advertising/promoting the downsides of the journey and the reality.of the UK asylum system in the main countries of origin before people even leave. But that's less exciting than just talking about how asylum seekers have it easy or burning down nurses houses.

As I have said I will need to revisit their manifesto but surely...

Typical Restore voter people.

We have a moral duty to take asylum seekers, surely. Particularly if, as in the case of Afghanistan, they are people who supported us and our army when we were there. We also have a growing problem with a very low birth rate which means, amongst other things, that there will not be enough people in work to pay future OAPs or to staff our NHS, our factories, our farms etc. If asylum seekers bring in their children. It is to our advantage therefore. Particularly as it is a very cheap way to boost our much needed young population. We haven't had to pay for their and their children's birth in our NHS hospitals. We haven't had to pay for the adults' education etc. Immigration is to our advantage. People like Farage are pretending it isn't to distract from the real problems we have like low pay. Extortionate utilities. Wages have grown at the lowest rate 0.3 per cent pa, in 200 years under Conservative Governments. Farage wants to cancel workers' rights to sick pay, the abolition of fire and rehire etc to boost millionaires' ( like him) profits. He's not only immoral but also stupid. If you reduce most people's income there comes a time when they can't buy your goods (now!) and the UK economy starts to collapse. It is in everybody's interest who lives in the UK to boost wages, provide a good NHS, nationalise Rail, Water, Electricity, Gas etc
It is immoral that, eg the CEO of Southern Water gave himself £1.4 million last year while polluting the beaches of the Isle of Wight. He needs prosecuting.

@Persephonia1966 time to smash the myth that the UK is the land of milk and honey.
Stricter acceptance policy and deportation time scales ie not dragging on for a decade.
Labour get a grip of this Reform are done as they've nothing else.
Look at the state of the local councils in England that speaks values.

Volumes not values.

Meanwhile, the wheels are starting to fall off the Socialist circus bandwagon.

Healey today.

They have massively reduced processing times.
Boat arrivals are down on last year
Overall net migration is also down
The benefits available to all migrants are much less than they were

The problem with "smashing the myth" is you are here. People in other countries are there. The UK already has programmes basically anti-advertosing the UK as not as good as the people smugglers say. This is paid for from the foreign aid budget by the way which is often complained about as not helping our own. We could do more to target the people smugglers and more to target (with information) the potential victims of the people smugglers.

The other problem is that, just as people abroad believe mistruths so do people here. labour could cut migration to 0 and people would still complain it was rising. Also, having the likes of Farage/SYL roaming the world telling people the UK is a soft touch and super generous is not helpful to deterring irregular migrants. Hes doing the people smugglers advertising for them.

Are they? Remind me how many defence secretaries we’ve had in the last decade - I make it six and one of them only managed three months.

@ElizaMulvil the Afghan scheme has been abused to high heaven and one of the worst things foisted on this country and kept hidden.

A huge proportion did nothing to aid us it’s a con and on top of that some have brought 20 plus family members. They will never ever work and don’t speak English.

They also have the highest incidence of criminal activity per capita bar none.

No we don’t have a morally duty to take asylum seekers to the detriment of our own lives …that’s suicidal empathy. Their culture in particular is not compatible with ours.

What we do have a moral duty to do is look after our own first and foremost and not be the dumping for those from the Stone Age third world hell holes who want to ride the gravy train here.

Who isn’t opppsed to genocide? Hamas.

I've actually had a row with my 16 year old son about this , because I said Lowe was a nasty man and I'd never vote for him.
How he has got 16 year olds to follow him ,is beyond me
I thought the younger generation were all green voters

What happened there is they had a list of possible people to repatriate plus family members and accidentally made said list public. Meaning the Taliban now had a list of everyone believed to have helped the UK armed forces (whether they did or not) and their family and all their info. If those people weren't in danger before the leak, they were after. And arguably the UK had a moral responsibility to the people they put in harms way.
So the calculation was changed from "are these people at risk because they helped our forces" to "are these people at risk because we put them on a list of really good targets for revenge attacks and leaked it". And a lot more people belonged in the second category than the first. And the government didn't even bring in everyone they'd put at risk.

So indeed it was a fuck up. One that should never be repeated.

We were never in Schengen so always had control of our borders when it came to non-EU citizens.

Nope, I know of at least 5 young people who are members of restore and many of their friends are supports.

Support for Restore is MUCH higher than the media will have you believe. They held a meeting in my town and they had to change the venue due to underestimating how many would go.

Yes, they are.

Do you discount a Cairns-Healey ticket? It’s terminal for Starmer - but you know this.

Yes I would be worried. I do not think Reform can meet the appetites of a lot of people, and Restore is less full of old Tories. They increasingly say the things that Reform feel they cannot.

I would think all bets are off about nationality and migration. Lose the ECHR and any of us are just dependent on what the government of the day think about us, or indeed, or skin colour.

If there was a vote just in my city and the only options were conservatives and restore, Restore would walk it. And I say that as a Tory.

You told your son not to vote for the nasty man? Ok!

Im in London and Restore is what all the young people around where I live are into. They want a future that prioritises fairness and are genuinely feeling that only minorities are cared about.

Erm … I was replying in response to the point one poster had made to another stating that leaving the EU is the reason we get more boat people (who were previously getting onto trucks before boats) and the nonsense that EU membership was keeping these arrivals down. The EU is the key facilitator in this, and has done nothing effective to stop these arrivals, the trafficking etc, and has penalised countries Poland and Hungary for controlling their borders when it would be better if the EU would follow their example.

The Belfast migrant came via France then Dublin. Those who come to the UK via France should not have got there in the first place. Ineffectual border control and wet ineffectual EU elites are the problem.

Same where I am the support for Restore is far more than is being reported and the horrific Henry Nowak arrest and death and the Belfast man butchered in the streets has added to it.

These would have been covered up like other stuff had it not been for social media and the govt trying to say let's pretend that all is okay when it is so far from okay.

Two tier policing/DEI wokeness and allowing the world's ultra violent dregs in.

Healey has resigned, Starmer is a dead man walking. Most despicable PM ever.

My eldest son and I have always been political opposites, he’s a leftie and I’m right wing … I wouldn’t dream of telling him not to vote for someone. How ridiculous.

Seriously
That's a surprise..
What happened to being taught tolerance at school