To be increasung concerned about Restore Britain.

[NoisyHiker]

I know many people don't like Owen Jones, but I found this article deeply disturbing.

I am a child of immigrants, and my children are mixed race. So things like this are really starting to worry me.

I completely understand why people are angry at the current rate and quality of immigration (my own family are also disgruntled with it). But Restore want to deport even those who have citizenship.

And I am genuinely concerned that things are going to get worse than Farage if the government don't get a grip on this.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/10/restore-britain-right-politics-white-supremacist

I mentioned this upthread. We are already losing high skilled immigrants.

People are feeling more annoyed with the current gov.

Apparently Kemi, as good as she is, isn’t enough to overturn the annoyance of the last gov, so it’s all leading to a fractured vote.

I agree with this.

We need to follow the money on this one:

What's Maria's work history and how much tax has she paid?
Now she is 'a carer' - is she claiming carer's allowance? What other benefits are Maria & Tom claiming?

I'm sure the Home Office would be more sympathetic to Maria's story read something like; Maria arrived at 17, trained as a nurse and spent 35 years working for the NHS (and paying tax) instead of living in squats, selling stuff on market stalls, running 'a friend's hotel....'

The Guardian, as usual not asking the right questions but going hard on the 'poor Maria' angle.

Read my original post. We’re being asked to choose between the situation as it is now which is untenable and Restore’s stance, which is also untenable.

BUT, if this government don’t get a grip on quality and quantity soon, more and more people will be caught between a rock and a hard place when casting their vote.

Yes - and that fractured landscape is really threatening our stability. I do worry about things getting completely out of hand, in part stoked by bad actors. How do we know who's genuine or paid troll/paid protestors these days? It's hard to even properly gauge who's truly popular and what's essentially a manufactured spike in popularity.

TBH I am increasingly concerned about this government.

Read what I said.

i said stop any more coming. Train our own, if you want more details. You may have got me mixed up with the other poster.

I was taking issue with the idea of just ‘vanishing’ millions.

But there is no good faith left in Britain. Or at least on the internet. We’re overrun.

Interpol doesn't cover everything it's useful if someone has fled an arrest warrant and you want other countries to arrest them. It's less useful if you want to check someone definitely doesn't have criminal charges against them elsewhere. As I understand it the visa data isn't just for EU citizens since they don't need visas to move around anyway. It's more EU residents which is a different thing and would include settled refugees. I might have that wrong though.
But a lot of the most terrible migrant cases we are hearing about now seem to involve people who came here in the chaotic few years after the UKs withdrawal. That might just be because that's the timeline needed for bad people to come to light though. It doesn't automatically prove that leaving the EU data sharing agreement made it harder to identify risks. But it strongly implies it.

@Persephonia1966the Sudanese man entered via Dublin from France.

Yes and the Greens in some kind of coalition. Then we really would be in deep shite.

But the current situation includes much stricter rules on benefits than most other countries and a system where asylum seekers don't qualify for benefits at all. And a Home Secretary who wants to go much further than that. And a big reduction in the numbers of arrivals by boat this year as well as overall net migration.
It's never going to be enough though. No matter what the government does someone can always claim along with a more extreme proposal and someone else will say "this is what happens when you don't meet people halfway".

Who has said hard-working migrants will be kicked out?

From what I understand all parties still support skilled immigration?

Pre-Brexit, there were pretty few small boat crossing (9 recorded between July 0214 - May 2016). It was post-brexit that the small boat crossings really took off. By and large, the same people who voted Brexit are the ones now voting reform to resolve an issue almost entirely caused by the very thing they voted for in the first place - baffling.

This is spot on, @hairbearbunches . I only know a handful of people who voted for Brexit, but this is exactly how they think. They cannot come up with an alternative explanation for the increase in people arriving in small boats or that Brexit might possibly have anything to do with it, even after the Dublin III return regulation has been explained to them.

In some ways, it's almost comical, and a classic case of "be careful what you wish for". My MIL's "Poles and Lithaunians" have been replaced by Fillipinos, and now she's even more pissed off than she was before Brexit.

Restore.
Millions must go.
Restore have explicitly said they will remove ILR. And not just from criminals. There are not enough "lazy" migrants to make up those millions so presumably some of those with ILR retrospectively removed will be hardworking.

If Labour don’t get a grip on immigration and the islamification of Britain then support for Restore will surge. Before that, a civil war is increasingly becoming less of a far fetched concern.
Im right wing and follow both Reform, Restore and the conservatives and believe me if people are worried about Reform, they’re going to have a hell of a shock if they read Restores policies
I support conservatives myself - I did flirt with Reform for a while but Badenoch has brought me back to the Tories. The problem is people don’t want centre right or centre left anymore. They want the extremes from both sides.

Any foreign national in receipt of benefits, living in social housing or unable to speak English will go under Restore.

Murderers and rapists can also expect the death sentence.

Where have they said this? Quotes directly taken from the Reform website below, they talk about ILR benefits:

"In order to avert this, Restore Britain will reverse mass immigration. If a legally resident foreign national is unable to speak English, lives in social housing, claims benefits, refuses to work, fails to integrate, commits crime or actively hates our way of life and wishes to do us harm, they will be deported. All state benefits will be withdrawn from foreign nationals and British citizenship will be redefined so that it is far more difficult to obtain. If an individual surrenders his second citizenship in an attempt to fraudulently remain in Britain, we will take the necessary steps to reverse that process and deport them. If that means millions go, then millions go."

"ILR must be overhauled. This will boost emigration, easing pressure on public services and housing. These changes must be applied to those already here.
Non-citizens should only be in Britain on strict, time-limited terms that are conditional on work, tax contribution, and good character.
A Restore Britain government would cancel all of ILR’s associated benefits. Funds for foreign nationals who wish to return home as a result of an end to such benefits ought to be made available. In the long run, this scheme would be far cheaper than allowing them to stay.
The only remaining perk associated with ILR status would be indefinite residency along the lines enjoyed by British expatriates in places like Dubai. This status would be easily revocable on our terms at any time."

Remigration is a re-brand of the extremist ethnic cleansing idea. The United Nations defines ethnic cleansing as "rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area." Campaigns Director Charlie Downes has explicitly stated their long-term goal is an "ethnically homogeneous Christian Britain," which matches the core intent of the UN definition. This I find very chilling: The "Voluntary" Push For those with legal status or citizenship, the party advocates "re-migration" via incentives. This involves using negative pressure such as removing access to public services to make life difficult enough that people choose to leave. How is that right if all you've ever known is life in the UK? Where else are you going to go to have a decent life? It's disgusting. Simply disgusting.

That is not my quote, but I will comment on it. Pre Brexit, there were very few boat crossings because lorries were waved through customs from the EU into the UK and very, very few checks were being carried out. It is a complete myth to say that pre Brexit we had a handle on illegal migration, because we did not. We still have no idea how many made it through in the backs of lorries, other than the poor sods who suffocated, because they simply vanished into the black economy.

The stats on the Dublin agreement show that the UK sent almost no people back to where they had come from. Almost none.

The economic cost of this is immeasurable. That means our prosperity WILL come to an end. You and I will be poorer. 100% certainty. The man's a moron or a traitor or both.

I am not defending her, I see a bit of an issue with her indeed. But it is an example. What Reform and Restore are saying is miles away from deporting people like Maria, which is already happening.

Genuine question, do you think there's any issues with the level of immigration currently, or do you think there are any associated issues?

If so, what do you think can be done in a more effective and fair way to rectify? How should governments be tackling it?

How do people explain Reform’s success in the May local elections?

Given the immigration commitments in their manifesto.

Interesting @StandFirm, how will it result into an economic cost for us?