AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

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'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

Yes Labour need to do something sharpish. But let’s not forget that the huge problems we are facing with immigration now have been largely caused by Brexit. So before anyone rushes out to vote Reform, remember Farage was the one who drove that, and isn’t known for great ideas.

They need to round up every single one of the fuckers and kick them out straight back where they came from.Poland has the right idea. They refuse to take any of them

Ask the families of those murdered and raped. Pretty sure they will tell a different story

Not really the point but Scotland was one of the first countries in the world to develop a reliable written register of property ownership and trsnsfer, it’s over 400 years old.

At least American citizens are allowed to defend themselves

@Dollymylove And we never ever want that here! Look at the school and college shootings! No thanks.

They haven’t been caused by Brexit at all.

Blame Farage for as much as you like. Blame the odious little toad for the JFK assassination if you like. But immigration today has nothing to do with Brexit.

Farage was never in charge of post Brexit policy. That was all on Boris

Just screeching from the sidelines. For years.

Yes, he is responsible.

I think about this. In the UK if attacked or robbed or burgled you cower in fear and hope they don't hurt you and let yourself get robbed. In America they think "no you can't" and neutralise the threat. The American mentality is today defend yourself and your property. People shoot home invaders dead.

He was never a part of HM Government

Pretty sure Brexit has had a LOT do to with the immigration issues.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/emmanuel-macron-keir-starmer-nigel-farage-brexit-prime-minister-b2786675.html

Yes Boris is also a huge douche but surely it was fairly obvious to see what might happen if you lose the reciprocal agreements with the EU. Our gatekeepers aren’t gate keeping, and why should they, to be fair.

Hungary as well. Wonder why Budapest is so safe

No, but he was the public face of Brexit and was paid very handsomely to do that.

No, he isn’t. Us leaving the EU had sod all effect on the increase in small boats. I can’t be bothered to type it all out again, but if you read my post of 22:43, it will make the point far more clearly than I’m capable of doing now.

Half my family are from an Islamic country. They are lovely, kind, peaceful, civilised and funny people and, unlike you, not racist.

In a joint press conference with the Prime Minister on Thursday, the French president said the British people had been “sold a lie” that leaving the EU would “make it possible to fight more effectively against illegal immigration” Very true. You’d have to be a real idiot to think that anyone determined to get to the UK would stop at Calais simply because we weren’t part of a reciprocal trade agreement anymore, but really? Somebody who is pro EU is voicing an opinion that us leaving the EU has resulted in increased immigration and you don’t think he may have an ulterior motive for that?

And to top it off, that article doesn’t address the fact that the reciprocal agreement did not benefit the UK when we had it. The stats of the people removed under Dublin are publicly available. Google them. We accepted more people than we removed. And small boats started increasing several years before Brexit.

No I can’t imagine trade agreements have much importance to illegal immigrants, but rather than attempting to stop the boats crossing from the French side, the French no longer have to do anything of the sort. Probably giving them a cheery push out to sea. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, as they say.

It isn't safe....

1 in 6 women abused when pregnant.
A huge issue with child abuse.
Grooming gangs are common as is trafficking.

It’s absolutely disgusting what’s happening in our country. How many more people have to be raped, murdered, stabbed etc? How many more? What if Kier starmers daughter was raped by an asylum seeker, would he still think it’s fine for an influx of men to flood the country? What if an asylum seeker attempted to behead his son? The amount of people coming here now, abusing the benefits system, committing crimes, and contributing absolutely nothing is out of hand. Not to mention the fact of how many people now inhabit this small island. How can we possibly sustain all this? I genuinely believe the whole system will collapse in the not so distant future, it’s just completely unsustainable. And the amount of rapes in general that are happening is shocking.

You're being disingenuous or naive. Either way, it's inexcusable at this point. Farage is a corrupt, handsomely-paid shit disturber, and tragically only too good at the job. For years he has been provoking and sanctioning jingoism, tribalism and anarchy. He hasn't needed to be in government to achieve his ruinous agenda, although he did very well out of exploiting his tenure as an MEP.

If he actually gets into government we can all kiss Britain goodbye, because despite his claims to patriotism he couldn't give a fuck about the wellbeing of British people or the country. He's out to make himself and his sick associates as wealthy as possible out of grinding us all into the dirt, and if you believe otherwise you're in for a very rude awakening.

😂 Do you think the French were doing anything before Brexit?

Plus, even if there was a will, there simply isn’t the manpower. The coastline between France and the UK is just too vast to patrol all the time.

So do we fingerprint and dna test asylum seekers?
Are we checking databases to see if they are criminals already

Why were 2 men in one of the cases Egyptian?

I understand that rape cant carry to strict penalties or might mean more murders instead. But in the case of the boys videoing /knife etc etc gang rape not having custody sentences seem insane.
If that is due to positive discrimination its sickening.

Also i think we should consider it a terror attack where men from countries who hate uk and the freedom women seem to have and are intentionally creating fear. If we wont cover up they will make us afraid.,

Well, yes, I’d suggest they were, seeing as the illegal crossings have increased dramatically since they had no obligation to.

Yes the coastline is large, but you don’t hear of dinghies rocking up in Plymouth or Penzance, logistically they will go for the shortest crossing possible (sensible seeing as they’re overcrowded in a rubber boat, which frequently sink) so the area of coastline/possible spots where the boats are being launched really isn’t that big.

Well, yes, I’d suggest they were, seeing as the illegal crossings have increased dramatically since they had no obligation to You’re just circling back to your earlier point though, which I already addressed above. The numbers didn’t increase because of anything the French Police were or weren’t doing. The number of arrivals by lorry started decreasing because UK Border Force were doing a bloody good job with all of the money the government spent on security checks. The small boats started several years before Brexit and the traffickers realised how successful sending over small boats would be. And so the numbers began increasing.

And you’re quite right about the coastline. But surely you understand that Kent police wouldn’t have enough officers to patrol every Kent beach, 24 hours a day, in numbers large enough to destroy boats, arrest violent and armed traffickers, and 70 men determined to cross the channel, plus do their normal police work. Why would you think the French police would be able to do the equivalent in France?