AIBU to think something significant needs to be done by the government to stop these horrific events occurring?

[Northermcharn]

'Afghan men 'fled UK in lorry after raping girl'

Mobile phone footage recovered from Safi's phone showed the men in the lorry laughing and gesticulating, which Hetherington said suggested they thought they "got away with it".

When they were found by French police in Calais on 3 December, they were returned to the UK.
Hetherington said the trio had no travel documents or identification and had given false names to French authorities.
After their real names were checked on police systems, they were arrested on suspicion of rape.
Sali, of St Werburghs, denies one count of human trafficking and two charges of rape.
Habibkheil, of Lockleaze, denies one count of human trafficking and one charge of rape.
Ahmadzai, of Redcliffe, denies one charge of rape and one charge of assault by penetration.
The 16-year-old also denied one charge of rape.
The trial continues.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx7rxj57zyo

I'd like to see some decent people pointing out that some men from other cultures view young British girls as 'easy' and 'deserving of being raped'.

This wont get anywhere until decent, respectable politicians and voices stand up for British girls.

British girls can be black/white/asian etc, but often can be working class, brash and loud and therefore ignored by the police and those in power.

From [1] above:

'The most bizarre response was from Sinn Fein’s Michelle O’Neill, Northern Ireland’s First Minister. She was asked about Northern Ireland’s ‘porous border’ and described his claim as ‘fake news’ and ‘totally inappropriate’, before adding: ‘I don’t know any country that has open borders’.

O’Neill must understand that the Common Travel Area (CTA) creates an open border in the island of Ireland. There are no entry or exit controls between Ireland and Northern Ireland. If that isn’t a ‘porous’ or ‘open’ border, it’s hard to imagine what could be.

So, the same lies in Belfast as in Westminster. The same unwillingness to face reality. But also a particular, local problem. The CTA is a gaping hole in the UK’s border security. Anyone who makes it to Ireland can effectively wander into the UK entirely unchecked.

Neither were any previous parties .

Ironically many of the (small) group of mainstream politicians who have acknowledged this are non white themselves.

Would last axeeek then straight back into the cushy full board hotels and delivering uber eats.

No thank you, I don't want to wait for anybody to be raped or murdered before we "identify and deal with" them. We already have to do that where our home-grown rapists and murderers are concerned.

Every instance of antisocial behaviour, every occurrence of harassment, every sexual assault, every rape and every murder committed by an asylum seeker is preventable. You may see all of that as a price worth paying, but why do you think you get to decide that on behalf of the victims of those crimes?

I understand the common travel area part but run he landed at the Dublin airport how did he get waved through?

Looking it up it says someone from Sudan needs a short stay visa to travel to Ireland.

Citizens of Sudan holding a Sudanese passport must obtain an Irish visa before traveling to Ireland. The specific type of visa required depends on the purpose and duration of the trip: 1, 2]

• Short Stay 'C' Visa: Required if the intended stay is 90 days or less. This category includes visas for tourism, visiting friends or family, business meetings, or short-term courses.

I think the clue is here (from my pp reference)

'I understand this is a route regularly taken by asylum seekers who tell British authorities that Dublin airport’s staff recommend the bus to Belfast.'

Can of worms indeed.

Yes, how did he go through security in Paris, board the plane and pass security in Dublin without question? And then just be able to claim asylum in Northern Ireland as if he had beamed in from Sudan?

A Big Problem is the anti-establishment organisations aiding and advising on how to gain entry and claim asylum. And he was in social housing! Nice one.

No way. That does require further investigation if so

The last sentence is quite informative..

'The man travelled from Sudan to Paris, then flew from Paris to Dublin before boarding a bus to Belfast on 10 February 2023, where he immediately claimed asylum. He was able to take this bus journey because the Common Travel Area, which has existed since 1922, allows unimpeded movement between Ireland and Northern Ireland. I understand this is a route regularly taken by asylum seekers who tell British authorities that Dublin airport’s staff recommend the bus to Belfast.'

Yup

Then set me straight - What was your AIBU question?
Surely you know? I'm assuming you had something specific you were asking and didn't just use a horrific attack as an excuse to start another pointless thread about the evils of immigration??

Like Suella Braverman? These arent respectable

We need someone centre/non political to really take a stand

How great would it be for a Lioness to advocate for working class girls most at risk of these men. Wishful thinking ofc.

The question is the thread title

As I said, in your time. No pressure. No judgements about your abilities here.

Sealioning - Wikipedia

They don’t check. The Republic of Ireland has 100’s arrive through Northern Ireland when the threat of mass deportation to Rwanda hit the UK. Same coming through the republic by boat I assume to the north of Ireland.

A TD in Ireland took the ferry to the UK, 4 times, he was asked for identification once, no
one was asked for ID boarding.

You’d have to wonder why the European government countries are allowing this madness. I mean they’re getting through the airport with no identification.

** no passport = ask for international protection = give finger print = referral to services… you may be detained travelling without documents… load of crap… how did they get on the plane 🤯

Why is this your priority? Genuinely I'm interested. Surely you know that the data does not support your claim that asylum seekers should be prioritised in the fight against violent crime/crime against women.

Other countries like Denmark and Sweden have had similar problems and have developed similar solutions. Their ambitions are explicitly to have less asylum seekers, and they shape the reception to housing to what citizenship is available to discourage it. The UK is relatively more attractive than both those countries. It should not be. We could go further than we do now - these are choices we are making.

Today there was an explicit question as to whether migration was affecting our national security. That’s a serious question which needs to be thought about and balanced against our obligations under international conventions.

So you didn't actually have a question in mind. As I suspected.

How is asking for clarity on the actual purpose of a thread tangential?

Its still in the the thread title.

What on earth are you on about? And why do you and people like you keep bringing skin colour into this, no one cares about skin colour. Literally no one has ever mentioned skin colour when asking for border control, I do not care and no one cares whether you're green as long as you're entering this country legally.

Did Brexit cause this way of entry to be possible? (EU to Dublin then jump on a bus through the soft border)