Rainbow colours everywhere

[TalkToTheHand123]

Rainbows everywhere. Hi. I walked into the office building yesterday and rainbow stuff everywhere. Nearby nursery has all rainbow colours on fencing and there was an ambulance with rainbow colours. A bit ridiculous?

I think there is an issue here.

Support is one thing i.e. don't be a dick but forcing people to "celebrate" someone elses sexuality especially in the workplace, schools etc.. is a big ask year on year. If we had a whole month of womens rights with the suffrigists flag colours on all the merch and emails I would be over it after a couple of years as well.

I suspect the real reasons behind pride month are commercial. Rainbows are very attractive and are good for selling products and there is some money in it for the LGBT+ organisations to be the facilitators as well.

It makes me happy,😊

But its all performative.. they aren't actually virtuous. They don't actually support charities they just signal that they have done the bare minimum. In my experience people who tell you that they are good people, are no better than everyone else who doesnt'

Keep telling yourself that.

I'm really hoping this is one of those sarcastic posts (it's getting increasingly harder to tell on here 😁)
Cos if not, imagine getting so wound up about rainbows painted onto children's faces 😁

Interesting that one of the "greater" things to do doesn't list protecting women's rights.

I appreciate the joke (and that the rainbow isn’t a Pride one).

But unironically I don’t think any political symbols should be painted on children until they are old enough to have a considered view of the subject. Even causes I agree with like gay rights.

Not towards homophobes or transphobes in fairness

What kind of equal rights would you deny people that you consider transphobes, for example?

So how do you balance the homophobic view that Lesbians should have sex with trans women and their female penis?
Or do you agree with the view that these Lesbians are "genital nazi's"?

So. There's St George's Day, VE Day, St David's Day but Pride Month? Just why?

Saints days have always been just a day. VE day is remembering a specific date. Are you wanting VE month? St George's month etc? Such an odd comparison to make

Just wondering why it has to be a whole month for Pride when every other 'celebrationary' occasion is only for a day.

You could just Google it.

Essentially it started out as a day, but then expanded to a month as it was too difficult to fit everything into a single day. Bill Clinton made it kind of official in the states.

There's also Women's History month, Disability Pride month, Black History month etc

Month long celebration and awareness months are not rare.

Ms. J.K. Rowling! I wasn’t expecting to find you here on Mumsnet!

Perhaps we should view the flag as representing acceptance.

Especially when there is so much bigotry and hatred being spewed in the UK atm.

More love for our fellow humans can only be a good thing surely.

To the person highlighting the paedophiles, please set aside some time to learn a bit about statistics, sample sizes, and confirmation bias.

Thanks for the compliment 😁

I think the fact that so many people object to
Pride month demonstrates exactly why it’s still needed.

I’m a straight parent with a child at nursery. I can think of at least a few reasons to have pride flags up at a nursery:

• Learn about a cultural event (Pride), just as the learn about Christmas, Diwali, Halloween etc.
• Welcoming atmosphere for families with lgbt parents / relatives
• Prompt for discussions about some families being different from ones mummy and one daddy; the importance of treating everyone with respect
• Hopefully if any children feel later they might be gay/queer, reduces the likelihood of feeling shame if it has been celebrated/accepted during their childhood
• Looks lovely and does no one any harm!

There is another discussion to be had about the commercialisation of pride and pink washing, I grant you

Mmm. Is that really logical? If so many object to animal cruelty, does that demonstrate exactly why it's still needed?

Painting rainbows on a child's face at a face isn't a political statement. It's a fecking rainbow!
You realise that rainbows aren't always to do with Pride, right?
Just ask Zippy, George or Bungle.
Or look up at the sky when it's next been raining and sunny at the same time.
Children love rainbows and adults like me too
It doesn't have to mean anything deeper than that, it doesn't mean they're being groomed by "the gays" or anything! 😬

Read my first sentence. Hell, read all of my post if you like.

Yes, I get that, but you kind of contradicted yourself - you say painting rainbows on kids isn't political, but kids shouldn't have any political stuff painted on them until they're old enough.
Who's doing that, then, in the context of this thread?
Bring on the rainbows.

I acknowledged that the rainbows that PP referred to in their jokey comment were not Pride ones.

I then made a point (that I stand by) that if the rainbows were Pride ones, I think they shouldn't be painted on children's faces until they are old enough to understand what is meant.

That's not a view specific to Pride colours. I would very happily wear a Pride flag myself (not a Progress one though). I support many other causes. I wouldn't paint a child in the colours of any of those causes until the child understood what was meant and could meaningfully choose to wear or not.

(No, not even a poppy, before you ask).

I do understand there are some good arguments in the other direction, e.g. that's how you build shared culture and values, but on balance I come down against.

This thread has influenced me to buy some pride flag bunting for our house