Who's this new celebrity groper ?

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Who's this new celebrity groper who's been ' hauled in' for questioning. I'm beginning to think they've got a supply of them at the BBC that they keep in a cupboard and they let one out evwry now and then when there's a bit if a slow news day.

Karren's daughter has gone into the same kind of line as her good pal DS promotes. Obviously, as an adult, she can make her own choices; but it does make you wonder whether it was her mum's connections that led her down that path originally.

Karren acts all high and mighty on The Apprentice and criticises the young contestants for foolish or rash mistakes and errors of judgement; but I wonder how many of them have a fraction of the murky contacts in their phones as she does?

Do we know who this is yet? 👀

He's on record comparing himself favourably in comparison to people involved in the tobacco or arms industries, saying that at least he (supposedly) doesn't kill or harm people.

All the women he has exploited for decades are literally of no importance to him; they're non-persons. None of the harm to them matters in the slightest - they're just things to be used until there's no more money to be made from them.

I can't believe he really believes that, because hundreds of poor, desperate, vulnerable, abused young women haven't found themselves able to stand against him, that means they're all happy and having a whale of a time. It's the same kind of tactic used by dictators, whereby they claim the lack of public dissent as widespread happiness with the situation... when we all know very well what tends to happen to anybody who does dare to dissent.

I didn't know about her daughter - as I say I have avoided anything to do with Karren Brady. There are/were some horrendous Davids - Sullivan, Gold, Hunt involved in underhand things.

Yes he is full of himself and claims he: "created the image of Mary Millington - I was like the Simon Cowell of the sex industry".

This was a glamour model and Sullivan's girlfriend who took her own life at 33 years old.

Sadly that was just very common behaviour by men in the 70s. Watch any Carry on film or most 7s sitcoms I grew up in the 70a and looking back I think every male TV presenter behaved like that with young women and extremely patronising with older women

When my friend talked about her run in with him she was upset and felt naive. She was obviously upset about her experience and we talked about it just after it happened in the early 90s.
As soon as I heard the women talking about what he did to them, I knew it was the truth as they described my friends experience exactly. He must use the same formula every time.

Sullivan invited her to look around his house, they got to the bedroom and then he said if she’d want to do modelling he’d have to see her body. When she was in her underwear he went to touch her breasts. She backed away. He then made the statement about how sleeping with him would make them good friends and that would be advantageous for her career. She refused again …then he gave a little monologue about being ugly and older and he knew she didn’t want to have sex with him …but they would both get something out of this. He knew she found him repulsive …but almost wanted her to do it despite this …as if manipulation and a notch on his bedpost …making a woman do this despite her repulsion was the win for him.

I worked with a girl who tried to get onto page 3 of the sport. To be honest she wasn't good looking but had big breasts and the sport were less fussy and she said god gave me these I am going to use them. It seemed to be an easy way to get money for women back then - I imagine today she would be on onlyfans.

There was also a documentary about the sport and women were falling over themselves to get onto page 3 or dance at their roadshows. Not my cup of tea at all, but it was different back then and for some (especially working class) girls it was a dream.

Wondering the same. Read the whole thread, but dunno if the thread got off track, or they aree discussing who it is supposed to be.

"ungentlemanly" ?????

But we also pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney plus etc . Every organisation headed by successful men with have scandals like this.
Especially if they are historical scandals from a time when people were much less aware of what is and isn't acceptable and when people in the entertainment industry thought they could get away with anything because of who they were.

I suspect your 'celebrity' is Tony Livesey, employed now by the BBC. Not the big star that the tabloids were trying to suggest.

The stuff about Sullivan is disgusting and not a surprise to anyone because he was the self styled 'king of porn'. I assume Karren Brady stepped down form West Ham a few weeks ago because she knew this would blow up.

O think it"'s very useful.that you have explained it here so that people understand the details. It makes sense, what you are saying.

Spot on

Oh. Never heard of him.

Glad if it helps. I was very fortunate in that the woman who did put her head above the parapet was well known and well loved, so I was able to sort of cling to her coat tails on this and that helped massively. I think without having that sort of assurance that you're going to be believed, where do you even turn with something like this? I spoke with the man's employers but they said I'd be locked out of the investigation and wouldn't even be told the outcome, so I backed off. I was terrified he would somehow retaliate. The power imbalance is tremendous when you don't have a high profile or much professional standing yourself. It's only by chance and extreme kindness of the other woman/women involved that I was able to offload that burden to an extent. Many women never get that chance.

Well, if you read about Sullivan you'll find Livesey's name.

Yes but I don’t even know Sullivan. What I mean more is it’s not the BBC household name that the tabloids were saying and not Gregg Wallace.

Yes and now Livesey has stepped down from his radio show.

This is why he was 'hauled in', I presume and the timing was just before Panorama which they obviously will have had to have told him about as he featured.

It is important to note that he was not an employee at the BBC at the time of the allegations/ events.

I believe the reporting was exceedingly vague on the 'household name ' bit. A lot of households listen to sport coverage on the radio.

This may be your age re Sullivan as he was a notorious sleaze.

Well I’m 54 so perhaps it’s my age. Never heard of these man but have heard of Karren Brady.

Like, Karren Brady, Tony Livesey grew his career in David Sullivan's empire, In Livesey's book he recollects how they had a countdown to 16, in his newspaper, where they could then legally display girls topless.

Don't remember the Sunday Sport and Lads' mags?

I'm 67 and remember SS and lads mags well.