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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

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Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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Ihatetomatoes · 11/06/2026 22:51

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 19:05

Yeah but they wont listen because they would rather risk upsetting some people just to try to signal to others how
supportive they are.

Of course wearing a badge is a way of showing support without having to get your hands dirty

They are basically signalling what twats they are.

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HangingInJustAbout · 11/06/2026 22:54

Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

I work for the NHS and am pretty sure this was already the policy. Not news worthy really.

SundayBangor · 12/06/2026 04:39

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 15:30

“What if a patient feels uncomfortable?” - patients can feel uncomfortable with all sorts of things. Some people are uncomfortable with Pride symbols, anti-racism messages, or a white poppy. That doesn’t mean healthcare workers should hide every expression of conscience.
I wear a Palestine badge and a white poppy because they reflect values I consider fundamental: opposition to war, violence, and the killing of civilians. If someone is uncomfortable with my opposition to genocide, then yes, I think maintaining that moral position is more important than avoiding that discomfort. I am never going to apologise for my symbols against genocide and peace.
The question isn’t whether every patient agrees with me. The question is whether opposing the mass killing of civilians is a value worth standing up for. I believe it is.

But you're not wearing badges in support of victims of genocide in Sudan or DRC. Does that mean you only care about genocide sometimes? Or not when it's African people suffering?
What I've said there is obviously silly, but that's the problem with your assertion that the only way you can truly express solidarity with victims of genocide is to wear particular badges.
Noone wants you to stop believing, passionately, what it is that you believe, and you don't stop believing it when you take your badges off, they're not talismans.
Your badges are ambiguous, they don't have a fixed meaning. They mean one thing to you, they mean another to PurpleThistle7's son, who has had Palestinian flags drawn on his desk by school bullies.
This is fairly basic linguistics / semiotics / customer facing communication, isn't it? You have the deliverer of the communication, the form of communication, and the recipient of that instance of communication. The meanings given to the form in the middle won't be fixed, and it won't alwys be shared by giver and receiver.
As a healthcare provider you are the one with authority in relation to your patients. You are responsible for meeting them where they are at, and should not impose your understanding of what certain signs and symbols should mean onto them.
This is really, really basic professionalism. What is going on with healthcare professionals?

SundayBangor · 12/06/2026 04:59

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 15:58

Well tbh I would be going by someone's medical records for their vaccine history. And provided I provide someone with excellent care for the issue they present with, it's not my job to make an antivaxer feel like I'm not judging them, if that's their own internal mindset. Not vaccinating your children is harmful and I wouldn't lie that vaccines aren't scientifically evidenced if asked by a patient so why do I have to be neutral about it? Again wearing a "I've had my jab!" Badge isn't me wearing a "antivaxer are dumb" badge, they obviously have a totally different intention.

I didn't realiser you were a healthcare provider till this post.
I assumed a social science or humanities academic.
Do you honestly have no understanding of what it means to centre a patient's understandings of the meanings of various signs, symbols, symptoms even, in a healthcare setting?
A professional's intentions are so wholly irrelevant to making healthcare culturally safe and accessible for all people.
"But I wanna wear my badge!!!"
I'm beginning to see why things like maternal health outcomes for black women continue to lag despite decades of good intentions on the part of providers. It's not about the message you intend to communicate, it's about the message that's received by your patients.
It's not about you!!!! It's about your patients. Even when you don't understand their perspective. Especially when you don't understand their perspective.

SundayBangor · 12/06/2026 05:22

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 16:08

Why ever not? It's literally lifesaving. Ignore what I said about it not being a good example, it's a perfect example of how people perceive things doesn't alter their intent. If you wanna be antivax and assume vaccines are political you're entitled to - what you don't get to do is change facts and say the be edits of vaccines are just an opinion instead of a fact.

Meaning given to a Palestinian flag badge by healthcare professional: Genocide is terrible
Meaning given to a Palestinian flag by a Jewish patient: Jewish people are not welcome here by me

Meaning given to a vaccine badge by heathcarer: The world would be a safer, healthier place if we all got vaccinated.
Meaning given by a Traveller patient: You're not entitled to bodily autonomy, I'm going to push you to get treatments you don't want for the good of the herd.

Patient centred care means it's the patient's meanings that are centred. Not the healthcare professional's.
And you're instructions on how to be a good patient are depressing.
"Just ignore the badges and concentrate on what the provider is doing for you."
You're not there to teach patients how to be good at their role, by altering their perceptions, shifting their focus, submitting to "doctor knows best and I must trust their intentions" and perform the emotional labour of deciphering those intentions.
No.
Patient comes first.
If you want to express yourself go to Speakers' Corner.

Gettingbysomehow · 12/06/2026 06:41

PurpleThistle7 · 11/06/2026 12:49

I don’t actually think they do mean me harm. I think in this time of very heightened emotions, do no harm should include a consideration of mental health. So English flags, Jewish stars, whatever… they just aren’t appropriate for NHS staff. There’s no reason for a health care professional to be a political activist at work. In my particular situation, I am very aware of one specific issue but I’m sure plenty of other people have other experiences and triggers so I would say people in a position of trust have a responsibility to be as neutral as possible.

You are very much misunderstanding if you think I said I actually think a doctor or nurse would hurt me for being Jewish at a hospital. My daughter was indeed hurt at school but that was by teenagers, the teachers wearing flags of support for those violent thugs just make her not want to go ask them for help, they haven’t actually hurt her physically.

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Its absolutely disgraceful that a teacher would wear a political badge at work.
If I saw an NHS colleague wearing one Id confront and report immediately. It just isnt acceptable 😮

Anarchy99 · 12/06/2026 08:14

SundayBangor · 12/06/2026 05:22

Meaning given to a Palestinian flag badge by healthcare professional: Genocide is terrible
Meaning given to a Palestinian flag by a Jewish patient: Jewish people are not welcome here by me

Meaning given to a vaccine badge by heathcarer: The world would be a safer, healthier place if we all got vaccinated.
Meaning given by a Traveller patient: You're not entitled to bodily autonomy, I'm going to push you to get treatments you don't want for the good of the herd.

Patient centred care means it's the patient's meanings that are centred. Not the healthcare professional's.
And you're instructions on how to be a good patient are depressing.
"Just ignore the badges and concentrate on what the provider is doing for you."
You're not there to teach patients how to be good at their role, by altering their perceptions, shifting their focus, submitting to "doctor knows best and I must trust their intentions" and perform the emotional labour of deciphering those intentions.
No.
Patient comes first.
If you want to express yourself go to Speakers' Corner.

Perfectly put. Things are presented as ‘fact’ when it’s actually opinion. And seemingly intelligent individuals fail to understand the difference.

MaturingCheeseball · 12/06/2026 10:57

What do pro-badge posters think about Jess Philips MP saying she got preferential treatment in a&e because of her Palestinian stance?

It’ll become like the Freemasons with winks and nods about who gets to the front of the queue based on badge-wearing.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 12/06/2026 11:28

MaturingCheeseball · 12/06/2026 10:57

What do pro-badge posters think about Jess Philips MP saying she got preferential treatment in a&e because of her Palestinian stance?

It’ll become like the Freemasons with winks and nods about who gets to the front of the queue based on badge-wearing.

And the fact that the doctor openly told her that too. It's fucked up.

Ihatetomatoes · 12/06/2026 11:47

MaturingCheeseball · 12/06/2026 10:57

What do pro-badge posters think about Jess Philips MP saying she got preferential treatment in a&e because of her Palestinian stance?

It’ll become like the Freemasons with winks and nods about who gets to the front of the queue based on badge-wearing.

Wow, that's really fucked up.

What happened to equal treatment for all? This isn't the Pro Gaza national health service; it's a NHS for all who live in the UK, and should not be about politics of any type at all.

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Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 11:51

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 18:57

But it is for the wearer. You all claim it’s to help people. Who is going to be affected positively by someone wearing a Palestine pin? It’s not going to help the people you say you support. The Palestinians being killed are on the other side of the world but the Jews in this country are suffering for it.

It is hard enough finding a decent HCP who knows what’s going on in your file. So if you walked in with any flag or badge I am going to be wondering about your professionalism tbh. I’m certainly not going to trust someone who thinks their political opinion has any place in a medical consultation.

Ugh there's actually thousands of more people in the UK, I clouding many healthcare staff, with family and friends in Gaza and other places currently being displaced and bombed. The idea that there is no one in the UK this effects is ridiculous.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/06/2026 11:52

MaturingCheeseball · 12/06/2026 10:57

What do pro-badge posters think about Jess Philips MP saying she got preferential treatment in a&e because of her Palestinian stance?

It’ll become like the Freemasons with winks and nods about who gets to the front of the queue based on badge-wearing.

Could she not see that was wrong, two tier treatment?

ACynicalDad · 12/06/2026 11:53

Outrageous that they ever were, remember the issue about a nurse having a necklace and crucifix, how is this allowed when that was banned?

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:00

SundayBangor · 12/06/2026 04:59

I didn't realiser you were a healthcare provider till this post.
I assumed a social science or humanities academic.
Do you honestly have no understanding of what it means to centre a patient's understandings of the meanings of various signs, symbols, symptoms even, in a healthcare setting?
A professional's intentions are so wholly irrelevant to making healthcare culturally safe and accessible for all people.
"But I wanna wear my badge!!!"
I'm beginning to see why things like maternal health outcomes for black women continue to lag despite decades of good intentions on the part of providers. It's not about the message you intend to communicate, it's about the message that's received by your patients.
It's not about you!!!! It's about your patients. Even when you don't understand their perspective. Especially when you don't understand their perspective.

Yes I do understand about centering patients, you don't seem to understand that pins or not there will be characteristics of all of us some patients may not gel with and they have the right to ask to see someone else. I have said the most important aspect is treating someone with the utmost respect and care and that should be palpable to the patient regardless of if someone has on a BAME, LGBT or Palestinian pin. I've never had a patient complain about any of these btw, so the idea that every single patient would have an issue with this isn't based on reality and none of the examples given on this thread have made sense in opposition tbh when it leaps to hyperbole that someone wearing a pin will deliberately harm them. HCPs are still people and our uniform policies allows this a long with other forms of self expression such as piercings, tattoos, hair dye etc

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:02

ErroltheSwampDragon · 11/06/2026 18:39

But the difference here is between a neutral action (not using any pronouns or wearing any badge) and negative action (calling the patient a pronoun that will distress them, wearing a badge that will distress them).

Healthcare workers are not being asked to deny their beliefs or act in a way that counter to their beliefs, they are being asked not to actively behave in a way that may distress patients.

Wearing a pin isn't actively behaving in any way though. As a LGBT person wearing an NHS provided rainbow lanyard how am I actively choosing to offend homophobic patients? Are you saying I need to be assumed straight at work and any sign of my sexuality is me being provocative?

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:03

Ihatetomatoes · 11/06/2026 18:58

Indeed. You would assume 'professionals ' might understand that. No need to wear your opinions on a pin on your work uniform. Just be professional.

For some of us it's our identity not an opinion. Why can't a Palestinian wear a pin? Why can't an LGBT person wear a rainbow flag?

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:04

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 19:05

Yeah but they wont listen because they would rather risk upsetting some people just to try to signal to others how
supportive they are.

Of course wearing a badge is a way of showing support without having to get your hands dirty

I'm still confused that you feel extremely strongly about not seeing a HCP that is supportive of their trans patients - how do you expect to know this to make an informed decision about who's caring for you?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/06/2026 12:05

ACynicalDad · 12/06/2026 11:53

Outrageous that they ever were, remember the issue about a nurse having a necklace and crucifix, how is this allowed when that was banned?

In a Christian country?
Of course she can wear a crucifix.

ErroltheSwampDragon · 12/06/2026 12:43

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:02

Wearing a pin isn't actively behaving in any way though. As a LGBT person wearing an NHS provided rainbow lanyard how am I actively choosing to offend homophobic patients? Are you saying I need to be assumed straight at work and any sign of my sexuality is me being provocative?

Its very clearly an active choice to wear something that identifies you as part of any group because you could just not do it.

Why would I, as a patient, know about your sexuality or political beliefs or heritage or any other personal detail? How would that ever come up and in what way would that be necessary to treat me?

If your view is that your right to express your personal beliefs and identity is more important than a patient's right to access health care, just say so, but its very clear that those choosing to wear pins etc are placing their own wants over the needs of their patients.

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:48

ErroltheSwampDragon · 12/06/2026 12:43

Its very clearly an active choice to wear something that identifies you as part of any group because you could just not do it.

Why would I, as a patient, know about your sexuality or political beliefs or heritage or any other personal detail? How would that ever come up and in what way would that be necessary to treat me?

If your view is that your right to express your personal beliefs and identity is more important than a patient's right to access health care, just say so, but its very clear that those choosing to wear pins etc are placing their own wants over the needs of their patients.

What do you mean though? I should be assumed straight is what you're saying by saying I could just not do it. Why can't I be identifiably LGBT or an LGBt ally given this is within the NHS values? If a patient doesn't want to be cared for by a gay woman then surely they should know I'm gay and make an informed choice, I'm not at all trying to stop a patient accessing healthcare. That doesn't mean that everyone who works in healthcare has to present as straight passing.

Twiglets1 · 12/06/2026 12:51

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:48

What do you mean though? I should be assumed straight is what you're saying by saying I could just not do it. Why can't I be identifiably LGBT or an LGBt ally given this is within the NHS values? If a patient doesn't want to be cared for by a gay woman then surely they should know I'm gay and make an informed choice, I'm not at all trying to stop a patient accessing healthcare. That doesn't mean that everyone who works in healthcare has to present as straight passing.

This thread is about "political badges" so not sure your LGTB example is relevant anyway.

I think the problem is more about staff choosing to identify as on one side or the other in highly controversial wars like "pro Palestine" or "pro Israel".

ErroltheSwampDragon · 12/06/2026 12:56

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:48

What do you mean though? I should be assumed straight is what you're saying by saying I could just not do it. Why can't I be identifiably LGBT or an LGBt ally given this is within the NHS values? If a patient doesn't want to be cared for by a gay woman then surely they should know I'm gay and make an informed choice, I'm not at all trying to stop a patient accessing healthcare. That doesn't mean that everyone who works in healthcare has to present as straight passing.

I don't think of anyone not wearing a LGBT lanyard or pin as straight (or assume everyone wearing one is a lesbian, gay, bi, or trans). I don't think about who the people treating me are sexually attracted to or their gender identity at all.

To me, the lanyard wouldn't bother me, whereas the Palestinian flag would, because that's been associated with hate and violence in my personal experience. As evidenced on this thread though, its not possible to know how any symbol will be interpreted by others so the safest (and most patient-centric) approach is to ban everything (except the items you listed previously).

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 12/06/2026 12:57

ErroltheSwampDragon · 12/06/2026 12:43

Its very clearly an active choice to wear something that identifies you as part of any group because you could just not do it.

Why would I, as a patient, know about your sexuality or political beliefs or heritage or any other personal detail? How would that ever come up and in what way would that be necessary to treat me?

If your view is that your right to express your personal beliefs and identity is more important than a patient's right to access health care, just say so, but its very clear that those choosing to wear pins etc are placing their own wants over the needs of their patients.

Agree
Politics should be kept out of the nhs
No one should be allowed to wear anything that shows their political etc beliefs
that includes
pins and lanyards that show support for Palestine, Israel, LGBTQ
etc etc

I agree though that nhs lanyards in support of cancer research etc is completely appropriate though

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 12/06/2026 12:59

Twiglets1 · 12/06/2026 12:51

This thread is about "political badges" so not sure your LGTB example is relevant anyway.

I think the problem is more about staff choosing to identify as on one side or the other in highly controversial wars like "pro Palestine" or "pro Israel".

Although technically OP gave pro Palestinian supporters as an ‘example’

WomensSports · 12/06/2026 13:05

Fancythatfancyhat · 12/06/2026 12:48

What do you mean though? I should be assumed straight is what you're saying by saying I could just not do it. Why can't I be identifiably LGBT or an LGBt ally given this is within the NHS values? If a patient doesn't want to be cared for by a gay woman then surely they should know I'm gay and make an informed choice, I'm not at all trying to stop a patient accessing healthcare. That doesn't mean that everyone who works in healthcare has to present as straight passing.

As I am an LGB person, your rainbow lanyard scares the shit out of me. You assume only homophobes aren’t on board with the politicisation of who I am attracted to and the co-opting of my sexuality to force me out of women’s spaces and that says everything about how you would treat me. The rainbow lanyard is a specific political statement and nothing to do with supporting LGBs anymore. The NHS might have provided it but that just goes to show how mad things are now that they wasted money on marginalising LGB people at a time when they’re allegedly financially struggling. I would be fucking petrified if I was an inpatient on a ward and saw a rainbow lanyard because they are a tool of my oppression as an LGB woman. You are not my ally. And no, afaik we can’t just say, after a long wait for basic healthcare services, ‘sorry I want to see someone who isn’t openly oppressing my people.’ Just don’t oppress people!

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