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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

324 replies

Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:02

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:56

We are not in the 1970's if you haven't noticed.

Here is one from 2026 archif.cymdeithas.cymru/news/gwenno-back-aberystwyth-after-being-released-jail

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:53

This thread has really become ridiculous. I'm sorry, but it has.
Public sector workers should deal fairly with everyone they come into contact with. Expressing an opinion of a political nature isn't doing that. I didn't lecture my customers on my political beliefs, I took great care not to express those opinions, I would like the same courtesy in return
My workplace wasn't worse for me because I didn't do that, it was better. Respecting the opinion of others by not forcing those opinions on others makes the workplace better.

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:04

She refused to pay costs and compensation, and was therefore in contempt of court.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:04

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:04

She refused to pay costs and compensation, and was therefore in contempt of court.

Good on her.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:04

noticeable that it doesn't say why she was ordered to pay costs and compensation to a radio station?

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 13:06

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:48

Disability is extremely politicised.

War also makes a lot of people disabled, so I can understand health workers protesting war.

What about protesting disabled people?

Hundreds of millions of people believe disability reflects sinfulness in a previous life.

War is a major cause of disability. So is genetically defective people breeding.

Wouldn’t protesting that be for the common good?

(You might think these views are abhorrent, which of course is why I’ve used them. Why not have them on NHS badges though?)

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:06

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:04

noticeable that it doesn't say why she was ordered to pay costs and compensation to a radio station?

See collectives beyond individuals
https://cymdeithas.cymru/en/english

English | Cymdeithas yr Iaith

English Side - Cymdeithas yr Iaith - We are a group of people who campaign for the Welsh language and the communities of Wales.

https://cymdeithas.cymru/en/english

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:07

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

No it isn't, public sector workers serve all of the community. They should not be making their own views more important than that. Suppose I had a badge that made my opinion on Kashmir obvious. And customers thought the opposite, would they trust my professional opinion?

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:08

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:04

Good on her.

Then she can carry on being sent to prison can't she?

MsGreying · 04/06/2026 13:08

Several taxis locally have some similar looking stickers on.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:07

No it isn't, public sector workers serve all of the community. They should not be making their own views more important than that. Suppose I had a badge that made my opinion on Kashmir obvious. And customers thought the opposite, would they trust my professional opinion?

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

AlphaApple · 04/06/2026 13:09

Totally agree that people should not wear political symbols at work in the NHS.

Some causes and their symbols are not overtly political but can be interpreted as such, and that can be a bit more complex. However, I do generally question people who feel the need to wear symbols on their clothing or in their email signatures. Just turn up and do your job. Express your values and beliefs in your own time.

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:58

I don't think it's very complex at all.

It's just about what's relevant to the job. So a flag pin, no.

Awareness raising for medical conditions, yes.

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:10

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:03

Feeling lectured by a badge is ludicrous.
If medical personnel harangued patients or pointed at their cross / aum / magen David / rainbow, that would be wrong.

the badge indicates a political view. I wouldn't be happy to be given care by someone wearing a badge supporting the Incel Movement or similar.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:12

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

You're over complicating it.

Is it relevant to a GPs wider remit to support breast cancer awareness? Yes of course. Broadcast their opinions on the Middle East? No.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

the Hippocratic oath has no valid or official meaning. No one is required to take it. In any case the only clinicians who do take it are doctors, not Nurses or other clinicians. Are you saying you trust us less?

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

Do No Harm anti-abortion badges?

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 13:14

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:08

I would. I would trust the words on your medical certificate. I would trust the Hippocratic Oath.

I actually think you are either:
Very naive and clearly haven't heard of Harold Shipman.
Or
Just being argumentative.

CornishPorsche · 04/06/2026 13:15

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

So ban all non-uniform items.

Issue headgear for those that wish to wear it, provide all clothes, lanyards, ID badges. Require plain black or white socks without writing, patterns or images on them and plain black footwear like a school. Then enforce it.

No badges, no pins, no jewellery other than a plain wedding ring and plain studs / unadorned bars and rings. Tattoos becomes more difficult to manage but if the police, armed forces, civil services roles like Border Force or HMRC can manage to maintain national standards around whether a tattoo is offensive, so can the NHS.

Plenty of us in uniformed services are acccustomed to this, it isn't difficult to mandate or maintain.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 13:19

That's not jail for political reason, that for paining a slogan on a building.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 13:21

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:10

But raising awareness about medical conditions is political - because the aim of the awareness and campaigns generally has more than one arm to it.

There is the public awareness element but there is also the policy change, research and treatment funding elements - all of the medical awareness campaigns I mentioned have a political aspect to them which seeks to amend policy and improve public funding and services for whatever the cause is - every single one of them.

That is why it is not as simple as saying no political badges or slogans - because there is very little that is not political in one way or another.

Agreed.
Phew.
(Outrage Politics folk won't agree.)
Off thread now. Lunchtime.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 13:22

CornishPorsche · 04/06/2026 13:15

So ban all non-uniform items.

Issue headgear for those that wish to wear it, provide all clothes, lanyards, ID badges. Require plain black or white socks without writing, patterns or images on them and plain black footwear like a school. Then enforce it.

No badges, no pins, no jewellery other than a plain wedding ring and plain studs / unadorned bars and rings. Tattoos becomes more difficult to manage but if the police, armed forces, civil services roles like Border Force or HMRC can manage to maintain national standards around whether a tattoo is offensive, so can the NHS.

Plenty of us in uniformed services are acccustomed to this, it isn't difficult to mandate or maintain.

this absolutely. We weren't doctrinaire about shoes and socks, although we had safety requirements, its also not difficult to ban items which indicate a political or social view.

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:23

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:12

You're over complicating it.

Is it relevant to a GPs wider remit to support breast cancer awareness? Yes of course. Broadcast their opinions on the Middle East? No.

My point wasn't about the Pro-Palestinian badges in particular - the report focuses on Pro-Palestine in particular because the remit of the report was antisemitism.

But the recommendation is more broad than that and says that staff shouldn't be allowed to wear political badges generally.

What I am asking is where do you draw the line about what is political and what isn't?

Is it within the remit of a GP to support the formal breast cancer awareness campaign?

It is within their remit to support people who have or at risk of the disease and ensure they get the best treatment that can be provided. But the pink ribbon campaign stems from the World Health Organisation and there are a lot of people who very much dislike and are politically against the WHO for a whole myriad of reasons, so if they put the official campaign posters up or wear a pink ribbon they could be seen to be demonstrating their support of the WHO's aims to influence government on the issue.

The myriad of different views and opinions in this country is complicated, which is why things should be subject to serious discussion and consensus. The desire to oversimplify everything and present only black and white options for things is how we have ended up with such a polarised society.

Yoonimum · 04/06/2026 13:24

ThatsNicer · 04/06/2026 08:41

Start with removing the Rainbow Lanyards.

Absolutely. Ever since the NHS got captured by Stonewall, rainbow lanyards etc with the Pride 'progress' (how ironic!) colours have become political. Even if they were just standard rainbow colours I would object, much as I support LGB rights, until lanyards, pins and flags representing all the groups protected by the Equality Act 2010 become standard NHS issue.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 13:24

BloominNora · 04/06/2026 13:23

My point wasn't about the Pro-Palestinian badges in particular - the report focuses on Pro-Palestine in particular because the remit of the report was antisemitism.

But the recommendation is more broad than that and says that staff shouldn't be allowed to wear political badges generally.

What I am asking is where do you draw the line about what is political and what isn't?

Is it within the remit of a GP to support the formal breast cancer awareness campaign?

It is within their remit to support people who have or at risk of the disease and ensure they get the best treatment that can be provided. But the pink ribbon campaign stems from the World Health Organisation and there are a lot of people who very much dislike and are politically against the WHO for a whole myriad of reasons, so if they put the official campaign posters up or wear a pink ribbon they could be seen to be demonstrating their support of the WHO's aims to influence government on the issue.

The myriad of different views and opinions in this country is complicated, which is why things should be subject to serious discussion and consensus. The desire to oversimplify everything and present only black and white options for things is how we have ended up with such a polarised society.

Just ask the pertinent questions. What is the NHS relationship with the WHO (I'm asking because I don't know)? If they are affiliated, then fine. If not, then no.