To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

It’s worth listening to police who have to work with the policies and what they say on it.

It’s not possible to use equality of outcome in a chaotic crime scene. It leads to bad outcomes such as for Henry.

There are still major mistakes with process but the training too needs to be addressed.

None of that means diversity policies didn't make them act the way they did. It just means we don't know.

The policies should be able to be evaluated for impact and effectiveness. If they can't be, the policies need to be rewritten. The Hampshire one I saw on TV yesterday was gobbledegook - except for the last line where it said ethnic minorities should be treated differently. That was pretty clear to me.

Does everyone know what 'cold rage' means? If there is a time for cold rage, this is it.

I don't think they do.

I asked OP if they'd checked the definition. They never got back to me.

Yes, he's not a nice man. My DH dislikes him with a passion.

It just means we don't know.

Yep we don't know, which makes me question the motives of those who are so keen to lay it all, so quickly, at the door of diversity policies. Who benefits from that I wonder.

You are misunderstanding the guidance.

If someone threw bacon at me it would be a disgusting act but it would not offend me in the same way as it would someone who was Jewish or Muslim. That is the purpose of the guidance, to advise officers to take into consideration cultural differences. There is similar guidance to remind officers about disabilities and looking beyond what is presented. For example asking a person who has MS or Parkinson disease to prove sobriety by walking in a straight line & arresting them when they are unable to do so. Or requesting an adult complies with a set of instructions and arresting them when they fail to do so because the officer had not appreciated that the adult actually had profound special needs and a comprehension age of a 7 year old. Or turning up at a fight and arresting someone who isn't complying with instructions without realising that the adult is deaf and their hearing aids have been snatched from them and damaged. Or arresting a woman for being drunk and disorderly because she couldn't walk straight and was slurring her words without appreciating that the woman was sober but a stroke victim. These are all real life examples.

I do not envy the police their job, it is an incredibly difficult one. However, on this occasion a disgusting human being murdered another and used any excuse he could think of to avoid arrest. The job of the police officers was to assess the situation and act appropriately, they failed in this task. That is not a failure of policy, it is a failure of humanity.

We do know what the feedback is from people using it. There’s been plenty over the last few days.

But equally, saying it's not down to diversity policies is also misleading. We need to know whether these policies cause harm or not. Or whether they introduce benefits or not. We don't seem to know. That's wrong.

It might be a failure of policy, if that policy has told you to treat someone from an ethnic minority in such a way that leads you to have unconscious bias as seems to have happened here. In this case, that meant the police attended the scene assuming they already knew the facts - that Digwa was the victim because he said he had been racially abused.

Take a good long look at this picture

Yes, he stabbed them to death. It's all on him.

As someone from a family of immigrants and married to the son of an immigrant i count anyone born in Great Britain to be British along with anyone that respects our heritage and laws and who chooses legally to become part of our great Union.

I note that many people have directed their anger to asking for considering that the sentence, given to Digwa, was too lenient. So, the Attorney General is currently considering this. This is a legitimate way of directing rage - especially if people think there are aggravating factors.

People complaining about a thing they don't like isn't unusual. Lot's of men pushed back against Me Too because it 'went too far' or 'you can't say anything nowadays without being accused of sexual harassment'. I'm not suggesting that policies can't be critiqued, I'm saying that I doubt very much that this case is entirely, or even predominantly, about 'diversity policies'. You and others think it is. I'm sure you all have your reasons for believing that.

I worked in police admin in a busy inner city police station. I was at the front desk dealing with a man who came in about some lost property. As I was dealing with form filling he told me how he'd love to be a police officer but had no chance as he was a white male. I said apply and he said he had but was turned down as only black men were being recruited. I said that's funny as Ive just been signing out pocket books and telling their shift patterns to a group of new recruits. The majority were white men, one Sikh, two Afro Caribbeans and a white woman. He said he didn't believe me. So white man making out he's a victim.

That settles it then. I will always take note of your husband's dislikes.

Thanks for letting me know

It's almost like they are acting in 'cold rage' which is defined as a highly controlled, suppressed form of intense anger...

He said he'd been physically attacked, not just 'racially abused'.

This. Labour deflection at its finest. The discriminatory policies are there in black and white.

And? I couldn’t care less about that. At least it’s not knife wielding or whipping up hatred and unrest.

Was it ideal. No.

Is it whipping up violence and hatred (except among the hard of thinking? Also no.

Ask yourself why nobody made a fuss when a young black school kid died at the hands of a white bloke?

Not important enough?
Too black?
The perpetrator had MH issues?

Nobody whipping up hatred and unrest. But when a young white student dies at the hands of someone with different coloured skin….riots.

Racism However you want to dress it up.

Anyway I’m out. This thread has shown me how entrenched racism has become and how willing too many of you are to applaud the unrest and the people encouraging it. Sickening all of you.

What?? That was the PM?

I didn't realise that bullshit was still doing the rounds.

Embarrassed for them.

I agree. Starmer is a hypocrite. He himself is using this tragedy to bash Farage.