To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

Nope I never said that. I said I'm only talking about Farage. Stop making things up and putting words in my mouth. If you have to do that to make your point, you can't have a very good point can you?

No quite normal to avoid speculating until the trial is over.

Careful, don’t speak too much truth..

Is that a question I thought you didn’t like those. I’m not going to ask what you think clearly, as you react each time.

I hope he gets a suspension long enough for the recall petition so he is disqualified from the House of Commons because of the undeclared £5 million gift.

Let the people of Clacton vote him out.

Using other forms of intervention (obviously for non serious crimes) clearly has some impact- otherwise they wouldn’t do it would they?

You naively assume that the goal of the police in such a circumstance would be to have some impact on the criminal.
They may have other goals, such as avoiding race riots or racial tension, or just minimising their own workload.

Also
There are four goals of the justice system, and you seem to only consider the last one on this list, though you haven't clearly spelled out what you mean by words such as 'result' and 'impact'.

1. Punishment by the state, i.e. satisfying the people's need for revenge
2. Deterrence, both for the individual being sentenced and others who see sentences passed and wish to avoid the same fate
3. Public safety, i.e. directly preventing further crime by the same perpetrator by locking them up
4. Rehabilitation of the criminal to prevent further crime from them.

Going via community elders to deal with an offender might have a greater impact on the offender's rehabilitation (goal 4 above), but does not satisfy goal 1, and has a negative effect on goal 2 - the individual will see themselves as immune from the law, that the police won't touch him.

77 votes missed. But he’s there to get his five minutes on TV for PMQs, except this time Starmer destroyed him in response. He’ll disappear again soon when the questions about the £5 million start again.

@PropertyD and there are plenty of examples the other way
Black girls nearly three times more likely to be subjected to most invasive strip-search - Liberty Investigates

Does anyone on here really think this case would be front and center in the media, if it wasnt for Farage, Jenrick et al, in the first instance?
This appalling crime happened 7 months ago, and this is the first I have heard about.
Strange that isn't it?
Not strange at all, it was reported back then and it's in the news because of the court case, Farage et al. are opportunistic crooks who manage to get certain type of people worked up, a bit like a cult. Let's be very careful what we wish for, and look at the history of Europe in the 30s.

But surely that's the question. Why did they prioritise the man standing up who was not injured over the person lying on the ground moaning, turning blue and saying he had been stabbed? Are you saying race had nothing to do with their actions?

Saying oh well I don’t like this so it excuses me to do is not a justification whatsoever for behaviours that were shown. Ask more of yourself.

Some bastard hurt a police dog.
Some people had bricks through their windows
Some people had their gardens demolished so they could throw bricks.

I agree with everything you have said. 100%. There is no sensible argument or rationale that should divide our society. In an ideal world, we would collectively embrace tolerance and non-violence.

You and a pp are being disingenuous at best. Crimes are on TV all the time, especially crimes of "public interest".
Then there is a news embargo to allow the trial to start and continue without prejudice.

All this leads to in places like parts of Birmingham, Manchester and certain northern towns is that groups of men are given undue influence on what happens locally. People who know these areas also know there are large family networks involved in local politics.

I think the same about some of these “inter-faith” groups. It’s always groups of men getting together for a chat and their views are listened to more than the average person.

FGM is done to nearly 100% of women. That includes the ones done in the UK. why is this? As the Tories say - there has been an overcorrection and its getting worse.

I'm saying that it is entirely standard for the police to go to a report of an assault and treat the person who claims to be the victim differently from the person they believe to be the culprit. Regardless of what colour those people are.

But to say he has never what a woman is is a lie.

It’s no good just being angry. The government needs to do something about it. The UK is a disgrace right now. An absolute disaster. How did we come to this?! How?!!!
FULL GROOMING GANG DEBATE: Rupert Lowe & Farage vs Labour: Shocking Grooming Gangs Full Debate
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1ue4cw49c&ra=m

That's not what they're trained to do. They're trained to attend a scene without fear or favour. That should mean not treating anyone differently until all facts have been gathered. Surely the police know that sometimes a supposed victim is not who they say they are? This is not news.

I don't understand that sentence.

He’s an absolute tool. He did exactly what Trump did when he encouraged that riot at the congress building. Can’t stand the creep and I can guarantee if Henry had been a black or Asian immigrant he wouldn’t have given a fuck.

Banish him to the Gulag!.......hang on.....hasn't that been done somewhere before?! 🤔

Ah yes, typical leftist authoritariaism and intolerance to those who disagree with their stance. As much as I think Farage is an odious little snake, I still believe in free speech.

When you allow people from certain parts of the world to settle here they will often have medival views of women and gay people. Women are seen as lower class, to be veiled and kept in the background. They do not work - they are not allowed. They have the children and look after the men.

If those views about women and gays isnt diluted you end up with larger and larger groups of people with the same views growing and growing (Yes, I am looking at Birmingham because I know the most about this area).

The last election where Jess Phillips won by a whisker was a dirty fight. She was followed around by men, things were whispered to her. Horrible things. The Independent candicate refused to shake her hand at the end. They were there on one issue - Gaza.

Surely no one can think this is the way we want to grow the UK?

A pondering I've been having.

Farage wants the end of 2 tier policing? Ok but he's 1 person that has benefited from it. He gave his "address to the nation" outside of the HoC so I'm wondering if Lucy whatsername got locked up for a vile tweet that, according to her, was "misinterpreted", then why hasn't he? Oh yeah, "2 tier policing" innit.

DEI has nothing to do with the equality act or pregnancy and disability protections and everything to do with pushing Critical Race Theory and Gender Ideology/Queer Theory, both of which spread hate and division whilst promoting discrimination, whereas the equality act is about preventing discrimination and promoting equality of opportunity