To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

All these left wing people like "Sir" Keir and people on here ranting on about "fascists" and "far right" remind me of Rick from the Young Ones (a long time ago but he was a parody of a left me wing student who called everyone fascist). Grow up! People have genuine concerns and if you think Lowe and Farage are "facists" or "Hitler" you really have lost your marbles.

I'm no fan of Nigel Farage, but you are no fan of free speech either. A central tenant of our democracy.

There's no two-tier policing in the UK, is there?
Right, so I suppose we all imagined the incident where a visibly Jewish man was arrested at a counter-protest for having a Magen David necklace on display, while individuals carrying pro-Hamas signs and chanting for the destruction of the world's only Jewish state were allowed to continue without police intervention.

Do.you know what Luxury Beliefs are OP? Because you clearly hold them.

I didn't mean to disagree with you exactly. No doubt money is important to him but what I meant is I don't believe he is playing politics for the money. He is just an egotist like Trump.

It's interesting how the Nowaks, a Polish family, are considered British while so many have argued that Digwa and his family are not British/ illegal immigrants/ foreigners/ Muslim!

No he didn't. The BBC misquoted him and had to apologise.

@Menopausalsourpuss you say Starmer doesn’t care as he has money and a gold plated pension. What do you think Farage has, do you think he really cares about people?

On the contrary I think people have “lost their marbles” thinking someone like Farage gives a shit about the UK and its people.

Has he held any surgeries in Clacton yet

Well, he has £5 million.

Oh I am not a reformer whatsoever, and I can't stand Nigel Farage.

There is some (limited) evidence for that, but not in the way Reform and many on here are claiming.

"All ethnic groups were significantly more likely to be sentenced to immediate custody for indictable offences compared to White offenders"

and

"there was a statistically significant association for offenders of Black and Other ethnic groups with increased odds of receiving a custodial sentence, compared to White offenders. In contrast, Asian offenders had statistically significant decreased odds of receiving custody."

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2024/statistics-on-ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2024-html#offender-characteristics

"Equality of outcomes" and "same treatment" are not the same thing at all.

According to some statistics some people of whatever group may need a bit of a push to get the same outcome as someone from a different group; ie what most of us wound call different treatment **

The only thing that matters in all of this is that Henry Nowak’s grieving family explicitly asked for Tommy Ten Names, Farage and their ilk not to exploit Henry’s death this way, and they have ignored it.

There is no doubt that there is absolutely two tier policing. The rules might not specify that the white person should be seen as the villain, but as we have seen in the news a lot recently, in addition to their woke policies, police officers and most public servants are (rightly) afraid of being seen as 'racist' - using that word in a loose sense - as it can end their career and ruin lives. Hence the many cases we see, such as the tragic one of Henry Nowak. The recent traveller rape cases also spring to mind, and perhaps you liberal types who hate Farage might consider that the public 'rage' is being manifested as support for Reform and Restore Britain.

Because the police (and many in society as a whole) were/are racist, misogynist and homophobic. This is why DEI initiatives had to be put in place - to try and mitigate the ingrained behaviours of the police.

The police believed the perpetrator in this case because for generations, the accusation of racism would have been accurate. If it wasn't for the generations of racist, misogynistic and homophobic behaviour, from the police and wider society, there would be no need for anyone to automatically believe an accusation of racism because of historic behaviour.

The only reason people are able to claim 'two tier policing' now, is due to appalling behaviours in the past. If policing had been fair, there would be no need for DEI. I have assumed, possibly erroneously, that you are a woman. If you are a woman, you should be grateful for DEI.

This case may not be about misogyny and homophobia specifically, but discrimination in the past has led us to where we are today.

I do not support any political party, I think they are all incompetent at best and dangerous ar worst. As a disabled person I am angry about Farages comments about me and my people.

But locked up? Yeah maybe when we start locking up other professionals whose lacklustre approach to their job results in jail time. Most of the time people don't even lose their jobs. So if we are going to apply the same rules to social workers, nurses, carers, ambulance staff etc by all means.

Lets start with the police that handcuffed a dying man. Rage doesn't begin to sum up how I feel about it. Am I going to go and protest though? No because nothing will change. Corrupt people protect corrupt people.

Sorry you don't like Farage but I think anyone who doesn't feel rage for the trayemebt of a dying young man and is using it to virtue signal a shitty individual actually.

I don't think Farage is as popular as many believe he is! However, they're all as bad as each other. Starmer has consistently labelled many concerned parents (mostly mothers in Epping) as 'far right racist thugs'...

It's all mud slinging from both sides - we need to rise above it and ignore these cretins. Ultimately, the safety of everyone is what is important.

its long past time that DEI was made illegal because all it does is push devision and exclusion

Whilst I completely agree with you about the treatment of TRA and GC women, if you abandon all DEI policy and law there is a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
The Equality Act give protection to e.g. pregnant women, disabled people, gay people and old and young people.
I am absolutely not in favour of allowing discrimination on the basis of e.g. age, pregnancy, or disability.

LOL. Yep. I'm a racist for sure. You got me! :)

Rather than examine my reasoned arguments, you resort to name calling. This is both an ineffective political strategy and a convenient way to avoid engaging with arguments that make you uncomfortable.

My parents are Mexican immigrants to the US. My spouse is a southest asian refugee. My children are mexican and southeast Asian. But sure, I hate minorities. I'm certainly a white supremacist, amirate?

What Farage said was abhorrent. You should agree whether you support Reform or not. "I suggest the rest of us respond to this with pure, cold rage" is absolutely inciting violence.

The family specifically did not want his death to be used in this way. They said "We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred, or tension."

If Farage believes there is a policing problem there are many ways he can tackle that. This is clearly an opportunistic move to use this highly publicised event for his own means. He does not care about the family. Nasty man.

In the case of the murder of Daniel Anjorin the police who attended the incident were incredibly brave.

In the case of the murder of Henry Novak the police who attended the incident handcuffed a dying boy.

I'm very definitely NOT a Farage supporter. I utterly condemn the riots in Southampton.

The problem is that after DEI training the racists are still racists (just more quiet about it), other participants learn and apply the training along with a big dose of common sense, and a few over correct and we end up with this type of appalling incident.

Seems like such a short time since we were told we had to Brexit to get the Poles out, now we are being told we have to get the Muslims ( ie brown people) out.

DEI isn’t a thing here. Please get your facts straight.

Is rage that different to anger and fury, words used by Khan and others after George Floyd?

Farage doesn't have any power so irrelevant. If/when he gets power if he makes us unsafe and poorer like Starmer and his ilk (whilst enriching themselves and having personal security) of the last 30 years and their policies I will judge him accordingly.

Farage is only out for Farage. Do you honestly think he gives a damn about anyone (particularly his constituency)? He's lazy, greedy and arrogant.

Lowe is dangerous. I read his rantings, just to see what he's saying. He is a nasty piece of work, shielded by his vast wealth from the results of his ravings. I think accusations of nazism and likening individuals to nazis are usually hyperbolic and ridiculous, but in Lowe's case I'm not so sure.