To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

And then laughed and smirked at the answer. Farage really couldn't give a fat rat's crack about Henry Nowack, Henry's family or anybody else but himself. As far as he is concerned this is all a welcome distraction (for him), away from the £5m bung he took.

Yes this is very much two tier in action.

Are we supposed to be impressed that there are members of the police who would rather say “it’s the training what did it” rather than accept that some of their colleagues are inept?

NF and Lowe are dangerous authoritarian morons. But their popularity must be acknowledged rather than dismissing their devotees as racist bumpkins. If the root causes of white British anger and support for these parties/men is not honestly acknowledged and addressed, these men will gain power. Just like Trump in the US. And we see how well that is working out.

Two tier policing is just a buzz word that doesn’t mean anything.

The fact you are saying St Floyd shows you are a massive racist so I will choose to ignore your ignorance

Your point isn't relevant to the topic and neither is it correct.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crldey0z00ro

Or Jack Straw. Not ‘impressed’ just not this unable to listen to what people who do the job are saying.

Plus the same people have said the police got it very wrong, and the training is wrong.

yes exactly

I feel great sadness and anger at those individual policemen's gullibility and incompetence, but that is not the same as anger at a widespread system of injustice.

@Mugglingstrum What he does care about is money. For that he needs power. For that he needs a base. For that he needs to create faux anger.

He has money. What he really craves is attention and fame even if that fame is infamy. He is an odious opportunist who is exploiting this awful tragedy to further his own agenda. If he does win the next general election, he will have fulfilled his life ambition to be seen as a serious politician. He won't give a damn what state he leaves the country in after his term.

Yes I am always amazed at people who get all their news from the BBC and Guardian (along of them on here) - there are whole swathes of news that the BBC and other MSM don't report as it doesn't fit their agenda (that would have included Henry Nowak if it hadnt been reported so much by other outlets). It was during COVID lockdown when I realised people don't really do their own research - I researched both COVID and the George Floyd incident extensively as had allot of time on my hands and came to far different conclusions to what I was being told by the BBC which is when I got rid of my TV licence but most of those around me didn't do that and succumbed to irrational hysteria on both of those issues.

Depends what the issue is to what they actually believe…. If Henry dying in cold blood at the hands of a man of colour watched by police and disbelieved then ACTUALLY HANDCUFFED IN HIS LAST MINUTES is not the proof then what is?

Well quite, we see where this is heading - which is why I think it's crucial that justice be served here and the police failure properly addressed. But racialising the issue is simply toxic.
The reasons why people turn to racism and fascism are quite simple though: people are struggling and they're easy pickings for manipulators like the populist parties we see sprouting up everywhere. Those guys are experts at asking 'tough' questions but drill down into their solutions and it's crickets. That's why I compare them all to cults. Same psychological levers. However, the minorities who have been historically oppressed are still facing the same challenges as before - but now poor white working class (and even lower middle as white collar jobs dwindle like melting glaciers in the sun) are joining them in the misery. and it's all turning into a bucket of crabs. What boggles the mind is how those vast swathes of society can fall for the false prophets who are financed by the very people who killed their jobs in the first place!

He may have money but for some it is never enough. The money is integral to his lifestyle.

I agree entirely with everything else you point out about him.

Yes, but on this thread, it's only one particular side of the political and ideological divide which is attracting ire and criticism for some reason..

Have you checked the definition of that phrase?

Sure it is 🙄 thanks for coming out from under your rock to share that pearl of wisdom.

Even if Farage is right (which I don’t think has been explored fully), his response and behaviour is completely wrong.
He is pitting one section of society against another. He isn’t interested in being part of a constructive discussion or to be involved in the work to illicit change.
He just wants to provide a cause to stoke community division. I hope that at least some of his supporters turn away from him.

Oh, and Keir Starmer's positively heartbroken over the poor innocent lad's murder, isn't he?

Henry was killed in December. The police were lied to late at night on the scene and initially missed the stabbing (that's on them). Once they realised they'd been lied to, they investigated properly, including the covert recording of the brothers' conversations and amassed enough evidence to get a conviction within 6 months.

Even Rupert Lowe has done the same. Now please someone say he’s a “lefty” so we can all have a good laugh.

to name a few:

It’s significantly harder for non white people to earn as much as white people (they work in the NHS, this might not be the same elsewhere). career progression is harder.

They need to try harder to present as white when around law enforcement for their own protection. Law enforcement has a racial disparity between how they treat white and non white people. And it’s in the opposite way then which Farage would have you believe.

They can be the victim or racial abuse because of how they appear, simply walking down the street.

The last point has got significantly worse in the past few years with the normalisation of extreme right wing viewpoints.

What an intelligent response 😂 typical reformer. you can see I have made a number of contributions on this post if you look

community partnerships aren’t 2 tier policing

Just a reminder that when Sarah Everard was murdered by a Policeman he (Farage) said "We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police" and called for calm.