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To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

911 replies

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:05

He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

Nigel Farage MP (@Nigel_Farage) on X

We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police.

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

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BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 09:05

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:04

He’s not. He asked a question in the HoC

He produced a video addressing the nation. He has to do that now as he’s too scared to be interviewed anywhere. Brave soldier.

northernspanishlass · 04/06/2026 09:05

ForGreenHiker · 04/06/2026 08:31

Exactly this.

Anyone arguing that the justice system is somehow unfair to white people is ignorant of the challenges that ethnic minorities face in this country.

I am white, my partner is not. And I am fully aware that life in Britain is more challenging for them that it is for me - due to the colour of their skin.

What challenges?
What can you do that your partner cant?

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 09:05

TallSturdyGirls · 04/06/2026 08:54

Disgusting. He has he used the death of a young man for his own political pursuits. Anyone that cannot find this abhorrent needs to do some serious soul searching.

Anyone who does not feel rage at the racial discrimination demonstrated while a young innocent boy lay dying, should do some soul searching as well.

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:05

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 09:04

Wrong. He streamed an “address to the nation” on social media yesterday morning.

Leaders can put stuff on social media, they all do.

JuliaBraverman · 04/06/2026 09:06

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:05

Did you feel the same when Khan and others talked of fury and anger after George Floyd, and that they understood why people felt that way.

Of course not… doesn’t fit their narrative does it!

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 04/06/2026 09:07

ERthree · 04/06/2026 08:48

OP do you not feel cold hard rage against Henry's killer, the murders family and the Police officers that handcuffed Henry and to brass that lied to Henry's family for months? I certainly feel it and i don't need to wait until i am told by a politician. Farage is not someone i would vote for but he has the right to highlight just what is going on in this country. There is a two tier system in Policing, the justice system and housing. We have a Prime minister that won't support our country's values or heritage and takes great delight in making sure our veterans are prosecuted. British people are fed up and have the right to voice their opinion and take to the streets in peaceful protest. I don't agree with the violence but i can understand why it happens.

👏👏👏👏👏

luckylavender · 04/06/2026 09:07

LoisGriffinskitchen · 04/06/2026 07:35

Some time ago a black schoolboy was murdered by a sword wielding white bloke. No riots then, no sign of Farage or Tommy Ten Names. Tells me all I need to know about Reform and their “thick as mince” voters and supporters.
Henry was Polish. Ten years ago they’d have been demanding his repatriation. But now because he’s dead and hes white he’s a useful vehicle for their hatred and divisive politics.

Well said

PsychoHotSauce · 04/06/2026 09:08

The political issue is the bias and incompetence of the police as a whole. The institutional racism and resulting overcorrection of that racism. The institutional misogyny which has yet to be fully acknowledged by the police or politicians, let alone corrected or overcorrected, leading to Sarah Everard.

Farage can get to fuck. Forget two tier policing, this is two tier politics. The police are a huge problem, and for someone claiming we should all be treated equally, he should apply that principle equally.

If Henry Nowak was a police failure, an institutional police problem, and a public interest issue, then that also applies to Sarah Everard, domestic violence and femicide. If Sarah Everard's killer was 'one bad apple' then that also applies to the officer that said 'I don't think you have [been stabbed], mate' and doesn't justify 'rage' against all police.

Hoardasurass · 04/06/2026 09:08

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 04/06/2026 07:14

I am hoping he loses some support amongst his followers following his “pure rage” comments which are clearly an invitation to violent protest. Very happy to see him loudly heckled in the HoC yesterday.

I very much doubt it.
For years now we've had a two tier justice system, starting with the police and going right through the prosecutors to the judges.
Women who have been campaigning for our rights have seen this again and again. We've seen men turn up to womens speaking events dressed all in black with masks and weapons, harassing, verbally abusing and assaulting women whilst thr police did nothing.
We've had men dangerous men stalking and threatening women and their children all whilst the police do nothing.
We've had so many death and rape threats that have been ignored that most of us no longer report them.
We've had a convicted kidnapper, torturor, sexual abuser and murderer out on licence get up in front of a massive crowd and tell them through a pa system "if you see a TERF punch them in the face" all caught on film initially ignored by the police and probation services until there was so much public outcry that they had no choice but to act, but the judge let him off with a slap on the wrist because "he was just joking".
We've had marches with clear and obvious threats to kill women on placards and banners, we've even had MPs and MSPs photographed standing under a sign calling for all terfs to be decapitated yet nobody has ever been questioned let alone prosecuted even with several ceat images of the man holding it.
All of these violent men have been allowed by the police prosecutors and judges to continue getting away with it because these men claim to be women and the women they attack are gender critical.
Whilst all this abuse of women has been going on and men who are GC have been arrested, given illegal bail conditions, taken to crt and/or given NCHI records or had actual hate crimes recorded against them for simply stating biological reality and the law that no man can be a woman and that men dont belong in women's single sex spaces.

This has happened because of the DEI policies that thr police, prosecutors and judges have been indoctrinated in (to thr point that rape victims were forced to call their male rapists she/her in crt). Unfortunately its not only the dangerous gender identity ideology that has been pushed under DEI policies so has the anti white, christiphobic, racist Critical Race Theory.
It has been obvious to anyone who bothered to look that the criminal justice system has been broken and biased for years and its long past time that DEI was made illegal because all it does is push devision and exclusion.

People are justifiably angry and fed up over it and the mealy mouthed responses from those in power even after its been proven that police policies actually say you must treat ethnic minorities better than white people (the government has only just admitted that that guidance is "wrong" when infact its illegal as it goes against the Nolan principle). Given all of that i expect that odious little toad Farage being the only political leader who is actively calling this fiasco out for what it is is going to gain more support not lose it

Rosecoffeecup · 04/06/2026 09:10

Thatsanotherfinemess1 · 04/06/2026 07:23

And presumably that's also why the traveller boys who raped two girls were given such appallingly light sentences last week- ethnic minority trumps the victims rights in two tier policing and it's right there in the guidance

Do you think the police a) set sentencing guidelines and b) hand down sentences?

(They do neither)

Geminispark · 04/06/2026 09:10

radioX · 04/06/2026 07:29

Sorry op but two tier policing is absolutely a thing. Here in Birmingham especially the police go and speak to the leaders of the Muslim community when some of the younger generation are acting less than desirable, if that was anyone else not Muslim they would be arrested. The police are absolutely afraid of being called racist and so is Starmer. Open your eyes !

I dated a very senior met police officer for about a year, he was absolutely petrified of being accused of racism and sexism and scared to say anything in case he lost his pension. He was incredibly cautious of how he behaved at work.

but underneath that he was absolutely racist, sexist / misogynistic, said once he had a dead prostitute under his bead and after a woman got shirty with him at the airport told me that’s why women get hit..

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 09:10

I feel anger at it.

Not so much that I want to go and start race riots. More at the fact our police are so institutionally inept that things like this keep happening

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StandFirm · 04/06/2026 09:10

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 09:05

Anyone who does not feel rage at the racial discrimination demonstrated while a young innocent boy lay dying, should do some soul searching as well.

You are positing that this had to do with race. You and all the other NF fans are stating it like it's God's own truth. That's disgusting. There was negligence and failures but to racialise this is morally bankrupt.
Just like MAGA is the Confederacy's last breath, Reform is the Mosley crowd brought back from the dead.

Lmnop22 · 04/06/2026 09:11

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:31

You have proof I assume? Actual evidence, not whatever reform have told you on social media

You keep asking for proof of everyone else’s comments but where’s your “proof” that two tier policing isn’t rife?

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:11

LoisGriffinskitchen · 04/06/2026 07:35

Some time ago a black schoolboy was murdered by a sword wielding white bloke. No riots then, no sign of Farage or Tommy Ten Names. Tells me all I need to know about Reform and their “thick as mince” voters and supporters.
Henry was Polish. Ten years ago they’d have been demanding his repatriation. But now because he’s dead and hes white he’s a useful vehicle for their hatred and divisive politics.

He was British and Polish. People can be dual citizens.

Hoardasurass · 04/06/2026 09:12

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:16

Can you provide the actual documents and proof, rather than saying “it’s undeniable” with no proof?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/645f513ce35f9a1d
Gift token for the telegraph article that quotes the guidance and the college of policing assurance that they will review it

Police face calls to drop race bias policies after Nowak murder

‘Two-tier culture’ and positive discrimination doctrine must be scrapped, says Farage

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/645f513ce35f9a1d

Owly11 · 04/06/2026 09:12

I can't believe some people still don't think two tier policing is happening. Have they been under a rock for the last 20 years or so.

SaturdayNext · 04/06/2026 09:12

Lmnop22 · 04/06/2026 09:11

You keep asking for proof of everyone else’s comments but where’s your “proof” that two tier policing isn’t rife?

By definition it's impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof has to be on those making this claim.

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:13

SaturdayNext · 04/06/2026 09:12

By definition it's impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof has to be on those making this claim.

Listen to police on their take on the training.

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 09:13

StandFirm · 04/06/2026 08:54

Except that the people who embrace the 'Austrian painter' as you so quaintly put it really are fucking racists.

Of course they are! But why? That's the question nobody wants to answer.

(and FWIW, the term "Austrian painter" is a common phrase used in Youtube videos and comments in order to avoid YT filters)

Firetreev · 04/06/2026 09:13

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:25

I ask again - where in that document does it say white people should be handcuffed because of their skin colour?

Oh, it doesn’t. But unfortunately a lot of this country has lost the ability to think critically, as well as their literacy.

Literacy levels combined with poor attention spans is a massive issue. People read tripe like the Daily Mail, The Sun and The Daily Express or short snippets from malign actors on social media and think that they're informed. The amount of disinformation is terrifying, and those who lack the ability to think critically, fact check information and read long form journalism lap it up.

Sgcloset · 04/06/2026 09:14

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:05

Did you feel the same when Khan and others talked of fury and anger after George Floyd, and that they understood why people felt that way.

The two cases are not comparable.

George Floyd was killed by a policeman acting in plain sight of other police, who took no action to intervene. The policeman's actions were typical of some US police's attitudes to men like Floyd.

Henry Nowak wasn’t. The police were incompetent and gullible but did not cause his death.

Mugglingstrum · 04/06/2026 09:14

Simple messages and simple solutions suit simple people. Uncle Nige doesn’t give a flying fig about Henry. If he did he would have heeded a grieving father’s words.

What he does care about is money. For that he needs power. For that he needs a base. For that he needs to create faux anger.

In this economic climate angering those that have little is as easy as taking £5 million from a cryptocurrency investor.

The grift is not complex but it is predicated on creating the enemy.

Nigel will be sitting at home (Surrey not Clacton) in his Union Jack Y-fronts getting very excited about the anger. It’s his currency.

For those that support him. Ask yourself.

Is this a selfless man who respects the wishes of a grieving family??

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 09:14

Sgcloset · 04/06/2026 09:14

The two cases are not comparable.

George Floyd was killed by a policeman acting in plain sight of other police, who took no action to intervene. The policeman's actions were typical of some US police's attitudes to men like Floyd.

Henry Nowak wasn’t. The police were incompetent and gullible but did not cause his death.

So you feel anger at George Floyd but not what happened to Henry?

And you’re fine with politicians recognising that anger for the former but not anyone who does for the latter?

Monty36 · 04/06/2026 09:14

Sgcloset · 04/06/2026 09:01

Yes (six exclamation marks), because I haven’t seen it. The incompetence and gullibility of individual police officers is not the same thing as evidence of 2-tier policing from "police documentation and training material".

The calibre of police I am afraid is woeful. The training poor. My recent experience is that they feel sorry for themselves. For many I think the job is too much for them. They lack judgement. It is a hard job but good judgement is one of the fundamentals.
It began in the 80’s when Mrs T wanted anyone to join so she could send them North for the miners strikes. They took people who did not have the then basic qualifications.
It has led to a demise ever since. Ditto the Civil service.
They do need to set the bar higher. Back to what it was. And the training needs to be so much more competent.

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