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To be pissed off at housing tenants

235 replies

Pssedoffathis · Today 13:22

To be pissed off at this
We live in a nice area, there isnt much available to rent. The last 4 bed was 4500 a month that came up 2 months ago.
We were renting at 3000 a month an older house but it needed work and the landlord decided to sell so we moved out and living in a temporary small flat further away from kids schools waiting and waiting for 6 months for a house to come up.
We have heard from several friends that in the area the council have moved a problem family in to a large house in one of the roads. They dont work, 4 kids, police round all the time, stolen car crashed into a lampost, kids out the front screaming, teen age boy being arrested.
Anyway, these absolute scummers are living for free in a house we would love..
Whilst I am paying 40 percent tax and effectively homeless with 2 kids. Waiting for a house to come up that I can afford as 4500 is out of budget and property is scarce.
I am basically paying for these people to live in a house i can not afford to live in myself.
Am I a Mug? Should I move countries?
What is the fecking point in working anymore.

OP posts:
Matsukaze · Today 15:18

Pssedoffathis · Today 13:30

I don't read the daily mail....

Are you the editor, then?

cestlavielife · Today 15:18

Op is a high rate taxpayer with a rented out property so has many more choices than a lot of people. Dont waste energy on these people op. Police are involved they will get their penalty.

HairsprayBabe · Today 15:18

@ThatsNicer

Well luckily the stats show out that is generally how they work

Most social housing tenants are not feckless and work shy:
25%–29% of social housing lead tenants are retired.
27%–29% of lead tenants work full-time.
22%–25% are unable to work due to disability or being an unpaid carer of someone disabled.
7%–8% are unemployed and are able to work

around 38% of people on benefits are employed
29% are too disabled to work
19% are caring for someone who is disabled and therefore cannot work
that leaves 15% who are in the able to work but not, most of these are short term claimants (6 months or less) for example someone who has been made redundant

peachgreen · Today 15:20

Living in a flat – whilst renting out a property you own – is very bloody far from being "effectively homeless".

JuliettaCaeser · Today 15:21

You are not allowed to voice such thoughts. I got torn to shreds years ago for noticing our working age layabout neighbours just sat around smoking weed dealing drugs and claiming benefits while we trotted off to work for pay for it all. I only noticed this when I was on mat leave.

LeedsLoiner · Today 15:21

I'm calling bollocks on this one - according to Zoopla a mere £4250 pounds a month will get you four bedroom two bathroom apartment flat five minutes walk from Hyde Park Corner.

Kirbert2 · Today 15:21

floppybit · Today 15:14

Everyone accusing the OP of playing Daily Mail bingo probably haven’t experienced the misery of being insecurely housed with young children - I have and it’s utterly miserable. It isn’t fair. and of course OP is not being unreasonable to be upset by this.

OP owns a property. She isn't 'insecurely housed' or 'effectively homeless'.

loislovesstewie · Today 15:23

floppybit · Today 15:14

Everyone accusing the OP of playing Daily Mail bingo probably haven’t experienced the misery of being insecurely housed with young children - I have and it’s utterly miserable. It isn’t fair. and of course OP is not being unreasonable to be upset by this.

She owns a property and is a landlord. I'm sure she could find herself a better property if she put her mind to it.

MrsTerryPratchett · Today 15:23

LeedsLoiner · Today 15:21

I'm calling bollocks on this one - according to Zoopla a mere £4250 pounds a month will get you four bedroom two bathroom apartment flat five minutes walk from Hyde Park Corner.

Don't mind if I do...

FreyaFromTheFens · Today 15:23

Whosthetabbynow · Today 15:10

Really?

Yes really, see my previous reply.

Kirbert2 · Today 15:24

FreyaFromTheFens · Today 15:06

It is true, they kept refusing houses offered as too small as they didn't want the children to have to share bedrooms so the council rent it from a private landlord.

It is a very well known property locally due to the previous owner being well known and those that are aware of the situation are not happy as don't feel it is fair and the property and grounds aren't being looked after which is a shame.

Usually if you keep refusing houses, you are simply moved to the bottom of the list.

RetiredFromExplaining · Today 15:25

They are not living in a house for free. They have to pay rent. That rent may come from Housing Benefit, but the local tariff will not be as high as the rent itself.

I resent posts like these that assume that anyone who is on benefits is anti-social, pissing it up the wall and living a life of Riley. It is as if you think they are worth less than you and your family.

It is hard. Health, education and work outcomes are much worse for people on very low incomes. Inequality cascades down the generations.

The current rental market is an absolute scandal and I am sorry that you are caught up in the tail end of private landlords trying to make money out of people's homes. But the Renters' Rights Act has now brought in more security and a fairer rental market, so once you do find the right place, you can be confident that your children will have a stable home for as long as they are in school. You can thank Labour for that because the Tories did nothing to help people in your situation.

I would far rather we focused on companies taking massive amounts in care home fees and making millions, nay billions, in profit from the UK state than bash those on benefits.

If we spent as much investigating tax evasion as we do on investigating benefit fraud we would recoup far more money.

HairsprayBabe · Today 15:26

@JuliettaCaeser just so you are aware Statutory Maternity Pay is a statutory benefit that employers can claim back from HMRC - so you yourself were on benefits (at the cost of the taxpayer), whilst you were hoiking up your judgy pants.

FreyaFromTheFens · Today 15:26

Kirbert2 · Today 15:24

Usually if you keep refusing houses, you are simply moved to the bottom of the list.

The children have SEN so were treated as a priority to be near a certain school.

Overitallnow · Today 15:28

LeedsLoiner · Today 15:21

I'm calling bollocks on this one - according to Zoopla a mere £4250 pounds a month will get you four bedroom two bathroom apartment flat five minutes walk from Hyde Park Corner.

Let's see this four bed apartment in Hyde Park.....

bigfacthunter · Today 15:30

So you’re living beyond your means but mad at other people minding their own business…why?

Paganpentacle · Today 15:30

FlowerSticker · Today 14:19

where should they be housed? the streets?

Compounds of aggressive antisocial c*nts all together... away from law-abiding people who like to live their lives without causing grief to others.

Kirbert2 · Today 15:30

FreyaFromTheFens · Today 15:26

The children have SEN so were treated as a priority to be near a certain school.

So they turned down other properties near the school or was this the property nearest the school?

My child has SEND too. I was told to bid very carefully because if I got the property, I would need a very good reason to turn it down and keeping him at his school wasn't classed as a good enough reason.

XenoBitch · Today 15:30

RetiredFromExplaining · Today 15:25

They are not living in a house for free. They have to pay rent. That rent may come from Housing Benefit, but the local tariff will not be as high as the rent itself.

I resent posts like these that assume that anyone who is on benefits is anti-social, pissing it up the wall and living a life of Riley. It is as if you think they are worth less than you and your family.

It is hard. Health, education and work outcomes are much worse for people on very low incomes. Inequality cascades down the generations.

The current rental market is an absolute scandal and I am sorry that you are caught up in the tail end of private landlords trying to make money out of people's homes. But the Renters' Rights Act has now brought in more security and a fairer rental market, so once you do find the right place, you can be confident that your children will have a stable home for as long as they are in school. You can thank Labour for that because the Tories did nothing to help people in your situation.

I would far rather we focused on companies taking massive amounts in care home fees and making millions, nay billions, in profit from the UK state than bash those on benefits.

If we spent as much investigating tax evasion as we do on investigating benefit fraud we would recoup far more money.

OP is a landlord.

Everanewbie · Today 15:31

@RetiredFromExplaining
They are not living in a house for free. They have to pay rent. That rent may come from Housing Benefit, but the local tariff will not be as high as the rent itself.

If they don't work, have no income and no liquid assets and their rent is covered, it is free. To say they pay it when they don't have income or assets is disingenuous.

I resent posts like these that assume that anyone who is on benefits is anti-social, pissing it up the wall and living a life of Riley. It is as if you think they are worth less than you and your family.

The OP doesn't assume this at all. She merely states the family who live near him, specifically fit this criteria. If her account is accurate, she'd be right about the adults being worth less than her too.

Everanewbie · Today 15:33

bigfacthunter · Today 15:30

So you’re living beyond your means but mad at other people minding their own business…why?

"police round all the time, stolen car crashed into a lampost, kids out the front screaming, teen age boy being arrested."

Not text book "minding their own business" in my opinion.

LeedsLoiner · Today 15:34

Overitallnow · Today 15:28

Let's see this four bed apartment in Hyde Park.....

Hyde Park Mansions, Chapel Street NW1, 4 bed property to rent, £4,250 pcm - Zoopla

FlowerSticker · Today 15:34

floppybit · Today 15:14

Everyone accusing the OP of playing Daily Mail bingo probably haven’t experienced the misery of being insecurely housed with young children - I have and it’s utterly miserable. It isn’t fair. and of course OP is not being unreasonable to be upset by this.

Lol she's not insecurely housed, she owns a house that she rents out and I can guarantee if she was evicted from her current rental and gas no where to go she'd evict the family in her rental property without hesitation!

Holdonforsummer · Today 15:35

So near me for £4500, you can get a detached house with six beds and three bathrooms…….! www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/166720001