To be pissed off at housing tenants

[Pssedoffathis]

To be pissed off at this
We live in a nice area, there isnt much available to rent. The last 4 bed was 4500 a month that came up 2 months ago.
We were renting at 3000 a month an older house but it needed work and the landlord decided to sell so we moved out and living in a temporary small flat further away from kids schools waiting and waiting for 6 months for a house to come up.
We have heard from several friends that in the area the council have moved a problem family in to a large house in one of the roads. They dont work, 4 kids, police round all the time, stolen car crashed into a lampost, kids out the front screaming, teen age boy being arrested.
Anyway, these absolute scummers are living for free in a house we would love..
Whilst I am paying 40 percent tax and effectively homeless with 2 kids. Waiting for a house to come up that I can afford as 4500 is out of budget and property is scarce.
I am basically paying for these people to live in a house i can not afford to live in myself.
Am I a Mug? Should I move countries?
What is the fecking point in working anymore.

I have no doubt. Frankly I'm surprised she didn't do it, but maybe they're not in "naice" enough area for her kids' school, or her very high horse standards.

Do you have any idea how much your neighbours earn, if they pay NI (which contributes the NHS), whether they have settled status, or pre-settled status??

And yet we are all only a very serious brain or spinal injury away from being on benefits ourselves.

I think that people who look down on others should walk in their shoes for one day. They obviously have no idea what it is like to have been given a difficult life.

I'd seriously love to be wealthy enough to privately rent AND own my own home (which I also rent out as a Landlord).
Am I right in thinking this is the situation for OP?

It is

They do a couple of overnight shifts in an elderly care home. They have settled status

@XenoBitch Wowser. My husband and I would love to be able to earn enough just to own our own home! Now a decade in private rentals.
So why is the OP complaining?
I'm confused.

No idea and thinking they’re somehow ‘superior’

@RetiredFromExplaining you are so right. I take myself as an example. Diagnosed with 2 incurable cancers and face the rest of my living days on chemo. Cancer has taken so much from me, including my job.

Which is a really tough job - and one which many people don't want to do.

My elderly widowed parent is in a care home - I could go into detail about the level of care required...

I work nights and it's a kille, but I enjoy it.

It’s two overnighters a week in a residential care home. I wish I could do these “really tough” hours. It’s not 60 hours in A+E, or social work, or even two overnights with teenagers in the care system. It’s not standing in front of 30 year 9s, last lesson of the afternoon, nor is it driving a bus through the difficult parts of London.

To work so few hours means they must hardly be paying any tax on income at all, at the same time as receiving god-knows-how many different top ups towards housing, family income, cost-of-living payments, etc. Then there is the cost of sending their two secondary age children to school. If they worked long hours it’d all be fair enough, but they have quite obviously rigged their hours so they don’t work too hard, and are entitled to maximum top ups and an optimum amount of leisure time for a better quality of life.

I wish I could move abroad, work two shifts a week, and qualify for the same.

I also work a few nights a week and don’t mind it (too much).

" t’s two overnighters a week in a residential care home. I wish I could do these “really tough” hours. It’s not 60 hours in A+E, or social work, or even two overnights with teenagers in the care system. It’s not standing in front of 30 year 9s, last lesson of the afternoon, nor is it driving a bus through the difficult parts of London.

Which one of those jobs do you currently work in?

I've done two of the jobs PP mentioned and I still wouldn't work in a residential care home!

And my brother did one of the others!

Indeed, MrsTerryPratchett - and thank you/your brother

My parent is doubly incontinent and semi-paralysed following a bad stroke, but fortunately has capacity. And can eat and drink with a bit of assistance. Some fellow residents require 24 hour monitoring as they may get distressed/confused or need other types of care such as help with medication or drinking

Currently, one of the jobs I mentioned 😊. In the past, another of the jobs I mentioned.

But it’s not so much the job my neighbours do, as the amount of time they spend doing it. Two shifts a week! It’s not even as though they have young children to stay at home for. The kids are Year 10 and Year 13. The only reason I can think of for not working more hours is that
a) the hours aren’t available, which is unlikely in this region
b) working more hours would disqualify them from being eligible for in-work, top-up benefits

I'm not sure I get your point. He doesn't live in Council Housing that's being supported by taxes, his mother owned her home when he was a teenager, and I doubt social housing tenants have small trust funds. Other than his behavior, what does he have in common with @Pssedoffathis's neighbors?

I think you're projecting. It seems that you really dislike and resent your stepson and his mother, possibly because she had a home and business ahe owned and could sell. If he's 36 it's been 20 years since he crashed the car. Let it go @LakieLady . There's no way to change things. Still carrying bitterness and unresolved feelings from so long ago is wasting your time and energy. You could use them instead to do things that will lift your spirits.

I hope you manage to let go and be kind to yourself. 🍷🍰

@FlowerSticker

Thanks for trying to link, but unfortunately neither of those work for me - it takes me to the BBC site and then says 'retry', which hasn't worked.

I've tried to search on Google and as far as I can understand, this policy was simply for housing social housing tenants. I'm all for good social housing - what I'm going on about are anti-social, criminal people who make their neighbours' lives hell. We read about them a lot on here, and my family have had personal experience of them.

They are absolutely NOT the same as 'all social housing tenants'. They are a special category (which sociologists used to call the 'underclass', and which Marx called the lumpenproletariat).

It's these horrible, unhelp-able people who I think need to be housed all together somewhere where they can't torture law-abiding people. They can then play loud music all night, take and deal drugs, drive stolen cars around and crash them, shout and fight and vandalise their environment all they like. They'll only be spoiling their OWN surroundings, not everyone else's.

Social workers could still visit (with armed guards) to check if any of them seriously want to mend their ways, but otherwise - let them get on with it.

Shelter has details on council tenancy introductory tenancies: https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/council_housing_association/introductory_council_tenancies

I'm not clear how a section 128 notice may ne affected by the new bill, but it seems landlords can evict based on antisocial behaviour so I think introductory tenancies remain valid.

So: to any neighbours of antisocial council tenants that have recently moved in: Report antisocial behaviour to the council housing, nuisance and/or area team. Then they have the data to act, and if they do not act then you can complain to your local councillor who can apply pressure.

It's not bollocks. Although the rules around pets are changing, when they were looking to move some of the properties they were offered wouldn't allow their dog.

I’m not going to out them on here after saying they are antisocial dossers 😆 It is a beautiful property that has appeared in magazines due to the previous owner and the point is it is beyond what most people could afford but they get to live there despite never working and not looking after it or previous properties.

The upside is they have no near neighbours now so cant piss them off unlike when they lived near us.

So you are relying on their hand gossip and got yourself worked up.

Get a life. I live 14 miles away from where I want to. There are likely people people on benefits but I am not jealous of people worse off than me. Aim your anger at the people in charge of affordable housing not the "scummers" as you so charmingly put it.

Personally I hope you enjoy your flat for many more years to come. May your children flourish growing up there.