To be pissed off at housing tenants

[Pssedoffathis]

To be pissed off at this
We live in a nice area, there isnt much available to rent. The last 4 bed was 4500 a month that came up 2 months ago.
We were renting at 3000 a month an older house but it needed work and the landlord decided to sell so we moved out and living in a temporary small flat further away from kids schools waiting and waiting for 6 months for a house to come up.
We have heard from several friends that in the area the council have moved a problem family in to a large house in one of the roads. They dont work, 4 kids, police round all the time, stolen car crashed into a lampost, kids out the front screaming, teen age boy being arrested.
Anyway, these absolute scummers are living for free in a house we would love..
Whilst I am paying 40 percent tax and effectively homeless with 2 kids. Waiting for a house to come up that I can afford as 4500 is out of budget and property is scarce.
I am basically paying for these people to live in a house i can not afford to live in myself.
Am I a Mug? Should I move countries?
What is the fecking point in working anymore.

Well done OP, bored?

Anyway, even kids with 'scuzzy' parents still deserve somewhere live 🤷‍♀️

I think everyone should have a decent, suitable home they can afford. I don't think local authorities should spend stupid money housing people in private accommodation at inflated prices - ultimately hiking up prices and making landlords and private firms rich!
There needs to be systems in place that aren't making working people feel like they can't afford housing and feel bitter about paying taxes.

"the latest iphone"

Then as you suggested. Leave the country. If you don't believe in the welfare state then don't take a state pension or ever face disability. Or move somewhere without that type of support if it offends you so much.

If the rent is that high then it’s likely you live in a very affluent area where social housing is limited. I know people that have waited 10 years for a council house stuck in a tiny flat after leaving an abusive relationship.
count yourself lucky that you don’t have to wait and can choose and afford to rent privately.

I don't think sarky replies on MN are the reason the right and Farage are getting a foothold. If people decide how to vote on that basis, they are not very bright.

Im confused it sounds like you are looking for a or vaye rental not council housing? Why would the council give you a house if you're not on the waiting list? If you really think it's not worthwhile working you would give up your job but you won't of course

They will all be claiming PIP
For no reason
Whilst y
telling all and sundry about it.

I don't think that this family and social housing are the problem. It shouldn't be a you or them situation. You should both have somewhere suitable for your families to live. That your family don't is a failure on the governments behalf but it isn't this families fault. Housing shortages have become something of an issue in many countries from the UK to Canada to Australia and is something that does need to be tackled.

Don't let bitterness eat you up OP, direct your anger at the government where it belongs.

'These people.' 'Absolute scummers.' 'Problem family.'

You're revealing a lot about yourself, none of it good, OP.

<hands op even bigger spoon>

You do deserve empathy-and people who have actually lived next to certain families, or aren't rich enough to move might well get it,

Obviously you are going to get flamed in here because a large sector of MN genuinely don’t realise that people like you describe really do exist. Just like they live in areas that don’t have huge numbers of ethnic minorities that have changed the landscape completely and so there is no problem with migration. I’m lucky, I live in one of the former but I’m originally from one of the latter - and my sister still lives there. I hear you.

And the failure of successive governments to build social housing. When councils have a statutory duty to house homeless families, they often have no option but to place them in expensive private sector rentals.

A friend is in a 4-bed council house and her rent is £215pw, so a little under £900 a month. A 4-bed private rent here is £2,500 a month.

In the medium to long term, social housing more or less pays for itself.

Yanbu. This is the way the country is. And this is the reason for the rise of Reform. People are fed up with the current system. Maybe the new system will be worse who knows.

YANBU

Absolute Clampetts

Fuck it let’s just lock all of them in the work house eh? Or create ghettos? Sterilise them?

Seriously, They have to live somewhere.
You’re taking your frustration out on the wrong people, stop punching down!

btw not everyone that is in social housing doesn’t work. Me and dh both work full time, pay taxes but live in a housing association property. O we also have the nerve to have children. (We also are quiet, polite, clean, educated and raise our children brilliantly)

Quote : "Whilst I am paying 40 percent tax and effectively homeless with 2 kids."

But you are not homeless. You live in a small flat Living in a small flat is not homeless. My family live in a small flat. And tax is progressive.

Quote : "I am basically paying for these people to live in a house i can not afford to live in myself"

Not really. Think of it this way. The tax you pay might be going towards missiles for the UK jets in the Gulf, or building a new road, or even going towards government subsidies paid to private rail operators.

Quote : "Am I a Mug? Should I move countries?"

I suppose that depends on lots of things. What country do you think is currently "getting everything right"?

After all, many countries do not have any social safety net at all. So you get whole families living in shacks on the edge of rubbish tips, and the rich are in gated communities with armed guards.

That's assuming the family in question are reliant on the social safety net of course.

Imagine how much more challenging their ASB would be if they were living on the street.

Ideally, your street.

Fair play for single handedly paying the scummers rent.

Social/council housing isn't free, it's rented.

i can understand why you’re pissed off OP, I would be too, but it’s the whole housing and welfare system to blame

And because they're on PIP, they'll be getting a free car!