To be pissed off at housing tenants

[Pssedoffathis]

To be pissed off at this
We live in a nice area, there isnt much available to rent. The last 4 bed was 4500 a month that came up 2 months ago.
We were renting at 3000 a month an older house but it needed work and the landlord decided to sell so we moved out and living in a temporary small flat further away from kids schools waiting and waiting for 6 months for a house to come up.
We have heard from several friends that in the area the council have moved a problem family in to a large house in one of the roads. They dont work, 4 kids, police round all the time, stolen car crashed into a lampost, kids out the front screaming, teen age boy being arrested.
Anyway, these absolute scummers are living for free in a house we would love..
Whilst I am paying 40 percent tax and effectively homeless with 2 kids. Waiting for a house to come up that I can afford as 4500 is out of budget and property is scarce.
I am basically paying for these people to live in a house i can not afford to live in myself.
Am I a Mug? Should I move countries?
What is the fecking point in working anymore.

You must be on a pretty decent salary if your taxed at 40%. Your partner also works full time, yes.
I would say it is YOU who is taking the piss for wanting a social housing tenancy, thus, depriving poorer people the opportunity

You keep saying “live in a house for free” but they do not live there for free. Council houses still have a rent to be paid. If it’s social housing then it sounds like you wouldn’t be eligible for it anyway based on what you’ve said, so they’re hardly taking it away from you when you would never have had it anyway!

Any reason why you continue to rent instead of getting on the housing ladder? Maybe plough your energies into getting approved for a mortgage instead of raging about a family you don't actually know. Your post is rage bait, as I am sure you know, and absolute catnip to a certain section of posters on here.

And if anyone thinks that I post on MN during the day because I, too, am a 'scummer' can I just remind you all that not everyone works Monday to Friday 9 - 5? Thank you.

This is exactly my point. I think people are in denial if they think this doesn't happen.
I guess an analogy would be a wealthy parent and their two children. One is feckless, hasn't worked a day, destroyed their parents house, steals their parents car and drives it into a wall and is mean and horrible and is having to be bailed out financially for their own decisions. The other is dutiful, works hard, looks after the whole family if sick, cleans their parents house, never asks for a penny.
The parent gets sick, the dutiful child looks after them.
Then in the will the dutiful child gets nothing and the nightmare child gets the full estate.
I think social housing is a good thing, to be clear. I like the fact we have it for those in need. But what about respect and being a good citizen. Surely that should be a requisite for being given a helping hand. I wouldnt help someone who destoyed my house and my peace. Took my money and stuckk two fingers up at me
But some people take the absolute piss and also the system is just not fair when dutiful people get fuck all.

This I’m afraid OP. They have to live somewhere. I take your point, but this happens a lot and it isn’t fair. Then we don’t live in a fair society. 🤷‍♀️

Any reason why you can’t buy a property OP?

I thought councils had changed their tenancy terms a few years ago (whether HA, Council direct or council to Private), so those that display antisocial behaviour can be evicted more quickly than before. I wonder how that is impacted by the new tenancy laws being introduced now? I suspect people are stuck with problem neighbours now with council housing officers losing their leverage,

I sympathise with you OP. We live in a mixed area which had one problem family, who seem to have calmed down since the last arrest. However due to a lovely tenant's death a new large family have moved in who scream at each other from early morning until late at night, and break things daily. The other council tenants are lovely, look after the council homes and are good neighbours.

I’d blame Thatcher flogging off the social housing 40 years ago and that never having been stopped. Councils had no money or cash to build replacements. Housing in the UK is a mess.

Well if no one in the household works then they are getting it for free. I don't count spending benefits on rent as equivalent to using what is already over-taxed earned income.

How on earth is barn conversion with 5 acres of land and two lakes owned by the council and used for social housing? I find this hard to believe.

@op where do you live that is "giving out" four bedroom council houses in naice areas?

Tattoos?

It doesn't matter if you think you're more worthy OP. They qualified and were next in line. That's it.

Hope you get something sorted. Not having roots can be soul destroying.

I do not want a social housing tenancy. I want to privately rent a property in an area where rents are high and property scarce.

All together so that they can only wind up each other.

I have lived next to overcrowded social housing before, and the behaviour and anti social attitudes were off the scale. All the stereotypes people would claim not to be true absolutely 100% were.

Do I think there should be no social housing? Of course not. Do I think some families are fucking nightmares and a blight on society? Yes. And it doubly boils my piss that fact can’t be acknowledged.

Hmm...

My stepson was like that. Drugs, booze, noisy parties, hordes of teen mates coming and going at all hours, vandalism, single parent mum totally incapable of controlling him (and often pissed as a fart herself). One night he went out pissed, in the car that his granny had given him and crashed into 5 cars in their road.

He hadn't passed his driving test, so when the police came the following morning, he and his mother pretended the car had been stolen and he got away with it.

They couldn't be "moved" though, because his mother owned the house, which was worth £900k when she sold it 15-20 years ago, and she sold her business for £1.5 mill when she retired. "D"SS hasn't worked for several years, smokes weed all day and still lives his mother at the age of 36, with a small income from the trust fund his granny set up for him.

No-one accuses him of ASB but he's just as much a scummy bludger as those on benefits.

I understand that it's frustrating but it doesn't make your situation any better to use so much energy in anger against this large family. I am glad to live in a country which has systems in place to keep people housed (even though it's hugely flawed and fails many of the people who need help). Renting is very expensive and can be insecure. The housing crisis is the fault of things and people beyond the control of the people you call "scummers". Some of my husband's family live in council housing and don't work but I wouldn't swap our life for theirs, I love my job, we can go on nice trips, out for meals, support our kids with their interests and experiences and live bigger lives. We don't earn mega bucks and we had to move to a different town from the one we grew up in but that was thanks to gentrification not "scummers". Shift your focus, look at the options open to you. Are genuinely interested in emigrating?

Hmmmm, you want to rent in a nice area where rents are high and property is scarce?.
Plan b it is then 😂

It doesn't have to be owned by the council. The council can bypass and agree lets with private landlords on higher rent property if they should so wish to house people in.
Plot twist. I am also a landlord. Which no dount will enrage many people. And I know this as it was one option I was looking at to let my property in another area. Council are offering over market rents to landlords..
I can't sell my property atm as I have a young family living there and I know property is scarce there too and I am not going to evict them and do that to them
I just want to rent in a particular area for the time being.

This is categorically untrue and made up.

What is the fecking point in working anymore.

Because you will have a pension, promotion prospects, eventually savings, be a good role model for your Dc, and have more options as to how to lead a not-chaotic life.

You are not effectively homeless, loads of people live in flats.

I agree that rents are ridiculous, and hope you get something more to your liking soon.

come on, of course we know about shift workers etc, but the majority of working people.. actually work during business hours.

It's not a stereotype, no need to take everything so personally!

Yes you are not being unreasonable!