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2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

533 replies

Wellwhatnowbellaboo · Yesterday 09:12

Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

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Cocoxush · Yesterday 11:47

You can deny it all you like but if Henry Nowak had been an 18 year old of BAME, this would have been all over the news immediately and the officers hung out to dry.

The actions of the police that day, the cover up by the media and the silence of the government will undo any good intentions and policy has attempted to make.

wellnotexactly · Yesterday 11:50

Cocoxush · Yesterday 11:47

You can deny it all you like but if Henry Nowak had been an 18 year old of BAME, this would have been all over the news immediately and the officers hung out to dry.

The actions of the police that day, the cover up by the media and the silence of the government will undo any good intentions and policy has attempted to make.

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Southampton would be a pile of ashes by now, and the attending officers fast tracked to prison

GoldThumb · Yesterday 11:50

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:42

No. If you agree with Farage you are part of the problem.

A young man has died after being murdered and a series of catastrophic mistakes were made. That’s the story and that’s what needs to be addressed. Even the family have asked that this case isn’t used to create divisions in society and yet here we have Farage et al jumping on the bandwagon to push an agenda. It’s sick.

His family have also, in very strong terms, highlighted the grave disparity in the treatment of the two arrests, and want to know why their son was treated so appallingly while the killer was never even handcuffed.

They may not have used the term ‘two tier policing’ but this is what they’ve highlighted.

This is political, the family are demanding answers to these questions, and so are the public.

HPSauce78 · Yesterday 11:50

SamAylward · Yesterday 09:21

I don't listen to LBC, but whatever Farage said, I'm against it.

I've scraped better things than that man off of the sole of my shoe.

So a young man age 18 has been brutally murdered and all you can say is whatever Farage says you don’t believe it

just shows what sort of person you are that because you dislike someone you won’t listen to what they are saying
even if what they are saying could be correct

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:50

Cocoxush · Yesterday 11:47

You can deny it all you like but if Henry Nowak had been an 18 year old of BAME, this would have been all over the news immediately and the officers hung out to dry.

The actions of the police that day, the cover up by the media and the silence of the government will undo any good intentions and policy has attempted to make.

Edited

WTF are you talking about? This has been all over the news for a long time. I remember it being in the news when it happend. The reason why you’re seeing it more now is because the trial has ended and a sentence given. The media won’t report any details until that has happened.

ahda · Yesterday 11:52

It's horrific, I felt awful for the family, his father's speech about how Henry died in handcuffs and the murderer was transported without them, given the dignity that Henry did not get. Awful.

RubyPowderPuff · Yesterday 11:53

What that young man went through is horrific. He told the police he'd been stabbed and the answer was 'I don't think you have mate' this is negligence by the attending officer at best.
They didn't assess the situation thoroughly its disgraceful.

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:53

GoldThumb · Yesterday 11:50

His family have also, in very strong terms, highlighted the grave disparity in the treatment of the two arrests, and want to know why their son was treated so appallingly while the killer was never even handcuffed.

They may not have used the term ‘two tier policing’ but this is what they’ve highlighted.

This is political, the family are demanding answers to these questions, and so are the public.

You can address this at a political level without causing division and hate. The institution of the police here in the UK needs reform overall as a consequence of increasing negligence.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:55

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:53

You can address this at a political level without causing division and hate. The institution of the police here in the UK needs reform overall as a consequence of increasing negligence.

The Digwa family were capitalising on the division and hate. The division which has been caused by the left and which is being addressed by the right.

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:57

Yeah of course, take away all the blame from the weapons obsessed murderer and an incompetent police force. Let’s use terms of left and right instead. That makes sense 🙄

Cocoxush · Yesterday 11:58

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:50

WTF are you talking about? This has been all over the news for a long time. I remember it being in the news when it happend. The reason why you’re seeing it more now is because the trial has ended and a sentence given. The media won’t report any details until that has happened.

Stop pretending you don't know exactly what I mean. Its called gaslighting.

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:58

Cocoxush · Yesterday 11:58

Stop pretending you don't know exactly what I mean. Its called gaslighting.

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Google is your friend. Check yourself.

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 11:59

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:45

Sadly, I do believe it. This is the UK 2026. But people are done with the hypocrisy and I believe it's time for change.

I absolutely agree with you that it is time for change. I for one am happy that people are done with the hypocrisy of pretending the Police is a paragon of virtue - never wrong, never to be questioned, never to be held to account.

It is time knife crime is treated as a public health issue, and swift and effective measures must be employed to deal with this in London, Southampton, Yorkshire, Middlesbrough and wherever else it is a scourge on people's lives.

Two-tier policing is not a new issue.

It is time that we unite in demanding fair and just policing.
We must demand that officers police without preconceived ideas of who is victim amd who is perpetrator.
That officers remember to treat victims with dignity and compassion.
That officers are held accountable when they perpetrated injustices.
That lessons are learnt when there is clear incompetence/misjudgement.

These are issues that evidently affect us all.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 12:00

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:57

Yeah of course, take away all the blame from the weapons obsessed murderer and an incompetent police force. Let’s use terms of left and right instead. That makes sense 🙄

It's political so very relevant. Kemi Badenoch is right. Crime and punishment is being shaped by race.

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 12:02

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

Please read an account of what happened. I do not agree that the sentencing given is high enough. I think it should have been 25 mandatory before licence. The filming of the victim etc leads me to believe this. I do not think carrying a knife for religious reasons should be allowed either.

nomas · Yesterday 12:03

shellyleppard · Yesterday 10:00

It wasn't the ceremonial dagger that was used to kill that poor young man...it was a 8 inch blade. I saw the video last night and I was in absolute tears. Even though he had been stabbed the police still handcuffed him. That poor lad. I hope his killer swings

BBC are reporting that the stabbing was with the religious knife though.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8pkr2pzeyo

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 12:03

SamAylward · Yesterday 09:21

I don't listen to LBC, but whatever Farage said, I'm against it.

I've scraped better things than that man off of the sole of my shoe.

What? Even though on this occasion he speaks what many people feel? You dont agree that weapons allowed to be carried in the name of religion should be banned? That the prison sentence is inadequate here? Or that there should be a very pro active investigation into whats gone wrong and heads need to roll? Okay.....

growingoldungracefully · Yesterday 12:05

Absolutely horrific. RIP Harry. You were let down in the very worst way. You must have felt so frightened and alone - my heart breaks for you. 💔 Such a waste of a beautiful life which, if you had been shown some compassion - could very well had been saved.
I can’t watch the video - I have already been in tears just reading the news article. My DD is at uni in Southampton and a similar age to Harry. It makes it even more heartbreaking - his family have shown such dignity. I would like to know what has happened to the police involved? Have they been prosecuted? Also what has happened to Digwa’s brother? He lied to the police saying Digwa had been racially attacked. He made matters worse. Surely he should be held accountable?

nomas · Yesterday 12:05

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 12:00

It's political so very relevant. Kemi Badenoch is right. Crime and punishment is being shaped by race.

It's shaped by poor police training who should not have entered the situation with preconceptions in mind.

There are other cases where polive have let their prejudice against minorities show, such as Banaz Mahmood who was told off by the police for reporting her father and uncles.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · Yesterday 12:05

“I’ve been stabbed”
”I don’t think so mate”

This exchange chilled me to the bone when I saw it in the news last night. I hope that police officer never forgets how they treated that young boy, they deserve to live with that forever.

The one on the floor immobile while the killer complained of a sore eye where he’s been “attacked”.

It beggars fucking belief, and Farage, like the parasite he is, is looking to make political capital out of it.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 12:06

nomas · Yesterday 12:03

BBC are reporting that the stabbing was with the religious knife though.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8pkr2pzeyo

May I politely request that you don't start on this thread with deflecting tactics.

nomas · Yesterday 12:06

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 12:06

May I politely request that you don't start on this thread with deflecting tactics.

What are you talking about?

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 12:07

growingoldungracefully · Yesterday 12:05

Absolutely horrific. RIP Harry. You were let down in the very worst way. You must have felt so frightened and alone - my heart breaks for you. 💔 Such a waste of a beautiful life which, if you had been shown some compassion - could very well had been saved.
I can’t watch the video - I have already been in tears just reading the news article. My DD is at uni in Southampton and a similar age to Harry. It makes it even more heartbreaking - his family have shown such dignity. I would like to know what has happened to the police involved? Have they been prosecuted? Also what has happened to Digwa’s brother? He lied to the police saying Digwa had been racially attacked. He made matters worse. Surely he should be held accountable?

Henry Nowak.

Noodledog · Yesterday 12:07

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:58

Google is your friend. Check yourself.

Last night, after Digwa had been found guilty and after the footage of the arrest (and death) of Henry Nowak had been released, the Times website had the news under stories about:

Someone being fined at the French Open for making a sexist comment
A story titled "Where shall we eat? Maths offers answer to eternal holiday dilemma"

I can't believe anyone could see that and think the reporting has been in any way proportionate or fair.

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 12:08

“Another consequence of those lies is that the attending police officers honestly
believed that there were reasonable grounds for suspecting Henry had
committed an offence and arrested him with the consequence he was
handcuffed for about a minute before his condition further deteriorated and the
arresting officer began CPR. The police were given a convincing but wholly false
narrative of the incident. It was dark and Henry was wearing a dark top. The
entry damage caused by the knife through it, would not have been obvious.
Whilst there was visible blood on Henry, it would not have clearly been seen
coming from that wound and the clearly visible facial wound was not life-
threatening. Henry was complaining that he had been stabbed and was
struggling to breathe but that would not have necessarily told the officers how
serious the situation had become. It is the experience of the criminal courts that
sometimes, someone arrested and handcuffed will feign injury in the hope they
may be released. These police officers were faced with having to make quick
decisions in pressurised circumstances about the best way to act. The genuine
shock to the particular police officer, when he realised that he had been giving
CPR to Henry when he had a serious chest wound tends to show that he was
doing his best in a very difficult situation.”

This is what the judge said about the police.

The judge also says earlier that the wound to the chest of 8cm depth was most likely fatal and nothing could have been done.