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2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · Yesterday 09:12

Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

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askmenow · Yesterday 11:24

SamAylward · Yesterday 09:21

I don't listen to LBC, but whatever Farage said, I'm against it.

I've scraped better things than that man off of the sole of my shoe.

Why is it always the left wing socialists that have to resort to abuse. Telling1

If you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing at all!!

ExecutorAttorneyAdvicePlease · Yesterday 11:26

I know Digwa used race to throw suspicion off himself but did he stab Novak because he (Digwa) is a racist?
Or could the victim have been someone of any colour? Genuine question - I haven’t seen any reports that Novak was attacked because of his race.

Digwa, it has been reported, has a fascination with knives. He is a violent, terrible man.
There is no role for knives on the streets.

I can’t imagine what it must have been like for Novak’s family when they saw the footage. My son is a similar age and it is unthinkable.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:26

millymollymoomoo · Yesterday 11:18

The police were complicit in his death snd need to be put on trial. Poor lad the video is so distressing

the issue is

it is believed that racism only exists by white oeople
they wholeheartedly believe the killer because he was not white
they cared more about his turban than helping an innocent 18 yo laying dying on the ground
He should NEVER have been handcuffed
he should have been listened to and believed

by the same token the digwa on arrest was NOT handcuffed at any point and taken to choose his food at the station! After allowing Henry to die and his brother father and mother being complicit. They all need locking up ! I am disgusted but there will be the usual cover up

if this was reversed we all know the outcome - riots on the streets, taking the knee? Press all over it.? Yet an innocent white lad - silence. It’s despicable and yes we should ALL feel anger and outrage at his treatment. There is not enough of it,

and yes NOONE should be allowed to carry weapons / no religious exemptions. Thats a basic starting point.

and all the woke leftists ? Where are you speaking out your outrage at this and demanding justice for Henry ? Oh wait …, you’re pathetic and the problem

Lefties are also in a tizz because the perpetrator is Sikh not Muslim. So entrenched they are with calling criticism of Islam racist, they aren't programmed to speak up on this one.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:28

Noodledog · Yesterday 11:18

Notice, right at the beginning someone (I think Digwa's father) says Henry has a mouthful of blood, so the police saying they weren't aware he was injured and didn't see any blood is a blatant lie.

Then he is manhandled, handcuffed and treated with zero compassion by the male officer.

Finally, the female officer gets around to checking him, and notices that "his pupils aren't even reacting". He died on the floor, handcuffed and having his rights read to him, surrounded by his murderer and the murderer's family.

This is why people are horrified and angry, not because they are terrible people, but because they have empathy for a dying 18 year old.

It’s horrific. Some excuse it, just awful.

Pearshapedpear · Yesterday 11:28

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 10:18

What do you mean by 2 tier policing?

I don’t think we need to ban ceremonial weapons, Sikhs carry them everyday and have for decades in the uk without significant incident.

we need to stop moving onto persecuting other people because we think we’ve exhausted the Muslims, or they’re not enough as the racists appetite grows more and more

Please tell me this is a poor attempt at irony

Corianda · Yesterday 11:31

I think that the problem is that a Police person, a social worker, maybe a nurse would get fired immediately if they made what can be deemed racist comment, what can be deemed a racist action to a minority group person

HENCE they have to protect their career and be extra kind to minority groups

imagine if the policeman had said ‘I don’t think so mate ‘ to the Sikh and he HAD been stabbed

look at the green party’s leader complaining that the policeman kicked the suspect after the Golders Green incident -the kicking is being investigated, policeman possibly stood down whilst that happens

havent the Gov made a new definition of anti Muslim hate speech (just Islam not other religions) this is just what reform need to collect votes -Labour trying to regain seats in Muslim majority areas
news.sky.com/story/government-announces-new-definition-of-anti-muslim-hostility-13517508

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:31

ExecutorAttorneyAdvicePlease · Yesterday 11:26

I know Digwa used race to throw suspicion off himself but did he stab Novak because he (Digwa) is a racist?
Or could the victim have been someone of any colour? Genuine question - I haven’t seen any reports that Novak was attacked because of his race.

Digwa, it has been reported, has a fascination with knives. He is a violent, terrible man.
There is no role for knives on the streets.

I can’t imagine what it must have been like for Novak’s family when they saw the footage. My son is a similar age and it is unthinkable.

We don't know if he stabbed Henry because he was white. Aren't some schools now teaching kids that only white people are racist? Imagine adding that extra layer of this being a racist crime. Its how we got here. All wrong.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 11:32

Pearshapedpear · Yesterday 11:28

Please tell me this is a poor attempt at irony

If only ….

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 11:34

I’m sure it’s always been the thought that only the historically oppressed can suffer racism …However times have changed, we’ve had a black POTUS fgs

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:36

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:26

Lefties are also in a tizz because the perpetrator is Sikh not Muslim. So entrenched they are with calling criticism of Islam racist, they aren't programmed to speak up on this one.

It's strange how the left are suddenly pro police when the victim is white.

It's also obvious all the people who got down on one knee for george flloyd are shouting very loudly that the violent murder of Henry Nowak shouldn't be politicised. Hmm.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 11:36

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:36

It's strange how the left are suddenly pro police when the victim is white.

It's also obvious all the people who got down on one knee for george flloyd are shouting very loudly that the violent murder of Henry Nowak shouldn't be politicised. Hmm.

This

GruberS · Yesterday 11:38

What a terrible waste of a young man’s life.

Completely avoidable.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:38

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 11:34

I’m sure it’s always been the thought that only the historically oppressed can suffer racism …However times have changed, we’ve had a black POTUS fgs

The balance of power rhetoric hasn't changed for decades. Yes, it was certainly prevalent but not today. If anything, it's gone full circle.

GoldThumb · Yesterday 11:39

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:36

It's strange how the left are suddenly pro police when the victim is white.

It's also obvious all the people who got down on one knee for george flloyd are shouting very loudly that the violent murder of Henry Nowak shouldn't be politicised. Hmm.

Exactly. Seems like one of those irregular verbs.

We protest.
You politicise.
They weaponise.

BrinkWomanship · Yesterday 11:39

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 10:56

One instance of with a Sikh isn’t 2 tier policing.

No but the policing of the pro-Palestine marches and the Aston Villa vs Maccabi controversy absolutely are. There is a problem in the police force. They have the laws to uphold law and order in our society but actively choose not to. This is an issue for all of us.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:39

GoldThumb · Yesterday 11:39

Exactly. Seems like one of those irregular verbs.

We protest.
You politicise.
They weaponise.

Yes to both posts.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:40

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:36

It's strange how the left are suddenly pro police when the victim is white.

It's also obvious all the people who got down on one knee for george flloyd are shouting very loudly that the violent murder of Henry Nowak shouldn't be politicised. Hmm.

Can you believe on top of Starmer singling out criticism of the Unite rally, he ordered a two minute silence for Floyd. Unfuckingbelieveable. All this does is strengthen the argument about two tier.

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 11:41

I think whether reverse racism exist is still debated. The argument tends to go you cannot be racist to a white person, because the institutions of power protect the white person. So at most you can show racial prejudice towards a white person, not racism.
However, this particular case where the police does not act fairly towards the victim does throw the former into question.

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:42

Snoozysnoozy · Yesterday 10:00

Then you are part of the problem. You don't care what he said but he must be wrong? Even though one man died while being arrested?

I don't agree with Farage, or many politicians, but when they're right, they're right. Or because he said it's bad do you think a dead man must therefore be good?

No. If you agree with Farage you are part of the problem.

A young man has died after being murdered and a series of catastrophic mistakes were made. That’s the story and that’s what needs to be addressed. Even the family have asked that this case isn’t used to create divisions in society and yet here we have Farage et al jumping on the bandwagon to push an agenda. It’s sick.

IwouldlikeanewTV · Yesterday 11:43

SamAylward · Yesterday 09:21

I don't listen to LBC, but whatever Farage said, I'm against it.

I've scraped better things than that man off of the sole of my shoe.

And that is the problem and why people are so angry. I’m so disappointed with the U.K. everything about it is wrong. Ok you don’t like him but just look at what has happened. There will be protests tonight across the country and rightly so. I have don at university the same age. It breaks my heart to watch this.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:44

I believe the sad case of Stephen Lawrence was the pivotal point in policing. The report concluded institutional racism but instead of gradual implementations to rightly address this, there seemed to be a complete overhaul in the approach to policing in the black community. That has been shadowed by policing among the Muslim community. No balance has ever been found and under Labour its only going to get worse.

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 11:45

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:40

Can you believe on top of Starmer singling out criticism of the Unite rally, he ordered a two minute silence for Floyd. Unfuckingbelieveable. All this does is strengthen the argument about two tier.

Sadly, I do believe it. This is the UK 2026. But people are done with the hypocrisy and I believe it's time for change.

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 11:45

I do not agree with Farage and there is no need for the “white lives matter” and George Ffloyd references. I find that really disrespectful towards Henry’s family.

However, I agree that this really needs looking into so there is some justice for Henry and police are all trained to understand that criminals will of course use the race/religion/minority card if they can. I mean that is what criminals tend to do. Use whatever excuse they can find. The police should never have to be scared of doing their job for fear of losing it because a minority person is involved. The police need protection too, who else wants to do that difficult job.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 11:45

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:42

No. If you agree with Farage you are part of the problem.

A young man has died after being murdered and a series of catastrophic mistakes were made. That’s the story and that’s what needs to be addressed. Even the family have asked that this case isn’t used to create divisions in society and yet here we have Farage et al jumping on the bandwagon to push an agenda. It’s sick.

Another one who has interpreted Farage's words to suit their own agenda. I don't think it's the rest of us who are sick.

TheDMDC · Yesterday 11:46

The police service as an institution are the problem. They have been for a long time and this has been protested and outraged about for a long time. Looking anywhere else is a massive injustice.