2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

You do exactly this on the anti-semitism threads. Just stop it.

And I notice that this is finally the top story on the Times- but only because of what Farage has said.

Needs to be something done about the government and police obsession with stepping back from stop and search of people of colour to avoid upsetting some communities. This is why London has so much knife crime. No-one should be exempt from enforcing the law based on race.

I don't even know who you are so. If you want an echo chamber, then create your own chat forum.

Did you know that so-called anti-racist activists turned up at a vigil for Henry Nowak yesterday waving placards? Sick fuckers on the left.

@LuckyHazelFox Anyone on mumsnet for 5 minutes or more knows nomas has form for this. Probably best to ignore.

Remember it was also the police who took pictures of the dead bodies of two black women who were murdered (Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman) to share around as banter on their WhatsApp group.

The police are insitutionally corrupt.

Because many of your posts on incidences which challenge your own pre conceived opinions turn into 'yes, sad, but......'. Deflecting.

No-one should be exempt from enforcing the law based on race

Is anyone?

This is why London has so much knife crime.

What do you suppose is the cause of knife crime outside of London? Say in Middlesbrough, Teesside and the like?

There was also an ex police officer on Nick Ferrari LBC this morning saying that there is different policing according to race, it’s why he left the force.

I simply find it incredulous that individuals are allowed to carry weapons because of religious beliefs. People do know that if a woman carries pepper spray and uses it if attacked she can be prosecuted! No one should be carrying a weapon.

So if I created a new religion that said we were allowed to carry weapons, shout out things that are clearly inflammatory but claim the meaning is different because of my religious book, would it be ok?

We keep being told that these religions are peaceful - the world and his wife can see that these beliefs are damaging to our democracy and are causing division. People are sick of this stuff being allowed.

A poster said the man wasn't stabbed with a religious knife, I said the BBC reportted that he was.

What is this form for? Stating facts?

That word soup makes zero sense. Try again.

Unsurprisingly I think you’ve forgotten who the victim is here.

They also shared similar about Barnaby Webber and Grace O’Malley Kumar.

No. Religions being given special privileges is political, and utterly unacceptable. The French have a better take on this, the State should be neutral, atheists are oppressed when the state favours religions. We have a corrupted government that believes in "Islamophobia", which interferes with any notion of free speech, since it is just another ideology invented by men.

This is a terrible crime made worse by the police response.

Unfortunately, as seems to happen with just about every issue, the pendulum has swung too far in an over correction from the past horrors of overt extreme racism (not saying in any way that racism no longer exists) to a situation like this where parts of society and institutions lose all common sense.

These officers did not treat both young men equally which I can only presume to be an attempt to avoid being seen as racist and to be “sensitive” to cultural needs.

Religion should not be an exception to the law and nobody should be carrying any sort of weapon.

This type of incident plays into the hands of actual card carrying racists like Farage and also drives many more reasonable people to vote Reform from desperation and fear.

We need to stop being terrified about being called racists if we question anything around cultural differences.

It’s somewhat similar to the struggle faced by feminists trying to protect for women's rights to single sex spaces from men who say they are women and their supporters.

Politicians on the left need to grow a backbone and deal with the truth that there is a problem here, however inconvenient that truth might be to their preferred narrative.

Yep, institutionally corrupt.

What an outrageous thing to say. A young man died, and you seem to think that’s okay?

GROW UP

Do you also not believe in racism then?

Thanks @Ipsevenenabibas

They are. Because police are afraid of challenging behaviours of some communities because theyve been conditioned to tread with caution. And lets be honest knife crime is off the scale in our very diverse capital city.

Can you explain why pointing out a BBC report is so contentious to you?

This, I don’t think it has anything to do with two tier policing, but more a rotten attitude by the officers involved - in this instance the victim of that negligence was white, but that is not always the case. It is the arrogance of some police officers - and the environment that allows that - that needs to be looked into further.

The weapon he used was NOT LEGAL. He pretended it was the ceremonial Kirpan but it wasn’t. It was a different, much larger, knife.

I disagree with carrying any bladed article and I agree that all bladed articles should be made illegal, no religious reasons should apply.

But this was NOT a legal item he was carrying. He tried to spin the story to make it look like it was legal.

Also of course worth stating the absolute obvious that even if it was the Kirpan used, it’s still absolutely illegal to attack someone with it. The law offers some limited allowance to carry it only as part of religious dress, similar for example to the knife carried as part of Scottish highlands dress. Being legal to carry around peacefully, while I disagree with it, does not allow anyone to actually use it as a weapon and they’ll be prosecuted as normal. It’s not like they can say oh I stabbed him with the Kirpan and the law will say oh ok then you’re allowed to.

I think there’s a lot of confusion on the matter.

I also think this is all smoke and mirrors as the real scandal here is the police officers who behaved appallingly and clearly didn’t do their job at all. It horrifies me to even think that if they were not absolute tossers and had not handcuffed Henry and wasted precious time, could he be alive now?? An absolutely heartbreaking incident. My thoughts are with the family.

The police certainly got that wrong, horrifically so.