2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

I don’t think there have been any BLM riots, just protests globally.

Who has said that marches in support of such concerns are wrong? It's violence that people are objecting to.

Nope you quoted me on a post and completely misread what I had said, then tried to twist it around! I said I had watched the video and that I was heartbroken and that the police had no excuse to treat Henry the way he did. I also said that just because you had seen the video, that it doesn’t mean there were no bleats of “racist” by the perpetrator, just that you didn’t see it on that particular video! It’s a well known fact the perpetrator accused his victim of racism! I’m not sure what more you want me to explain ffs!

But you come at me again and again! Like a dog with a bone! And quite frankly it’s getting silly now, especially when you are responding to every single post I’ve made where I was responding to other posters! Weird! Just weird! I’m not responding to anymore of your replies to me because you’re making yourself look a bit weird now by following me around the thread.

Violent acts, dismantling statues and looting are not protests. They certainly were an act of defiance during lockdown.

That was clever of me. How?

Yes, some people are indeed struggling to produce intelligent debate.

There are kernels of truth in some of what is being expressed but Farage and his ilk are going about things intentionally in a completely irresponsible and self serving, way. They will drop many of their supporters like a bad smell on the off chance they get anywhere near the levers of power.

There was no looting and lockdown ended days later. There were no riots.

I'm not, actually, I'm responding to a number of posts. That's the way social media works. If you say something that is factually inaccurate, I will point that out, and if you say something with which I disagree I am entitled to express a contrary view. You feature a lot because you are posting an awful lot on this thread. I can see you're struggling with concepts like facts and free speech, but keep trying.

Yes, if they involve violence and looting.

There is a lot of squabbling and politicians are not much better.

What has come up is how difficult the current guidelines are for police. Ex police and current talk about the difficulty of equality of outcome.

It should be discussed more.

I get the sense that there are several posters on here who would be perfectly happy with ‘two-tier policing’ if it meant Palestine marches and BLM protests were banned but Tommy Robinson and others on the right could do whatever they pleased.

Must be nice to have so much time on your hands! I don’t unfortunately!

Great so violent protests can't be just attributed to the 'far' right.

Farages comments could have been ignored by grown up politicians but all the booing and jeering just ensures it goes round the world a few times and it was mainly because the other MPs wanted to wave their ‘inclusive’ flags and their ‘of course there is no two tier policing’ stance when huge numbers of the public disagree - but hey, let’s just ignore the plebs when we can show how good and considerate we are
we are heading for a large number of reform MPs in the future if others don’t stop the look how angry I am with Farage bollox and just get on with helping to sort the police instead

to add -Farage is a shit stirrer, a liar but being in denial is helping him

Not responding, terribly sorry for that poor family who have requested that the death of their beloved son not be used as an excuse for more hatred.

I will just say, I am not an idiot.

Can’t they? Perhaps my google’s broken because I can’t find any reference to violence at a BLM protest. Maybe yours is better?

I think this has shown the woeful lack of leadership in the government and the lack of quality in the senior ranks of our police forces.
I can't say anyone has grasped the sadness and sheer horror the general public has experienced in this case. I really, really don't think the government has shown any awareness, understanding and the need for change.

'Politicising a tragedy'. It is their job to raise concerns of the inactions or actions of the police force. This is a big deal you know, a horrific tragedy.

I mean seriously, politicising a tragedy. Did you see Starmer and Rayner 'politicising' a death a few years ago 'taking the knee' when the actions of plods in another country caused a man's death? That ok?

It’s so awful. The actual failings and treatment of Henry but also the guidance which underpins their actions.

Both need to be addressed without this stonewalling.

If it’s their job how is it that all the leaders except Farage are respecting the Nowak family’s wishes and don’t see it as their job?

What happened to Henry is an absolute tragedy. The particular police officers who responded obviously got it totally wrong.

TR is a vile racist thug. Anyone who follows him should be thoroughly ashamed. He and his followers are the scourge of Britain. They do NOT represent anything. The only thing they represent is hate, stupidity, bigotry and racism so endemic that don't even know the meaning of the word. Nasty nasty people. You can't deal with this lot though. They are a lost cause. Unfortunately, in any society, there are people who are beyond help. Fortunately, they are a minority, despite what they may be telling themselves. Imagine using this poor young man's murder as an excuse. Disgraceful.

“Farages comments could have been ignored by grown up politicians but all the booing and jeering just ensures it goes round the world a few times and it was mainly because the other MPs wanted to wave their ‘inclusive’ flags and their ‘of course there is no two tier policing’ stance when huge numbers of the public disagree - but hey, let’s just ignore the plebs when we can show how good and considerate we are
we are heading for a large number of reform MPs in the future if others don’t stop the look how angry I am with Farage bollox and just get on with helping to sort the police instead
to add -Farage is a shit stirrer, a liar but being in denial is helping him”

Spot on @Corianda

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/workforce-and-business/workforce-diversity/police-workforce/latest/

Let’s not forget the police are predominantly white (almost 92%) and a lot of them are male. The guidance they have been given may have been confusing as well. They may as a group be doubling down.

Also, can people please stop pretending that only a certain type of person votes Reform. It appears to me at least it is way beyond that. I have said this on other threads, it now includes privileged rich people with kids in private schools. Yes, they should not have introduced a penalty tax on private schools. Entirely foreseeable that kind of thing turns people against Labour. Apparently there is plenty of Reform support in the farming community too.

Oh good. Well next time think before you make random stupid comments about reform = skin colour hating on a thread about a victim of horrific crime.

You can be rich as Croesus and still be an arsehole @Araminta1003. I’d go so far as to say it increases the probability.