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2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · Yesterday 09:12

Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

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Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:09

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:08

Where am I denying that that I quoted you in a post? This is nonsense.

lol you edited your post and added more now! But that’s not what you originally wrote! You clearly are gaslighting

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:12

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:06

Again, why so aggressive? I was making a general observation about the claims of many racists that they're patriotic when so many of them post illiterate drivel on social media and produce banners full of bad grammar and spelling. If someone really takes pride in their country, they take the trouble to use its language properly and show the effects of the education the British taxpayer gave them.

So do the lefties. Same script over and over again. Racist this, Tommy Robinson that, Nigel Farage the other! And no generalising people who disagree with your views into one category such as being illiterate and uneducated is quite frankly disgusting!

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:13

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:09

lol you edited your post and added more now! But that’s not what you originally wrote! You clearly are gaslighting

I realised my post wasn't entirely clear and edited it immediately, and you have replied to the edited post - as shown in the quote. It's only possible to edit in the few minutes after posting, so your claim that I edited it after your post is blatantly untrue.

You rushed to respond without bothering to read what you were replying to. That's on you.

I really am beginning to feel personally targeted by you with a lot of wholly untrue accusations and very unpleasant and aggressive personal attacks. I don't know what your beef is, but just stop.

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:17

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:12

So do the lefties. Same script over and over again. Racist this, Tommy Robinson that, Nigel Farage the other! And no generalising people who disagree with your views into one category such as being illiterate and uneducated is quite frankly disgusting!

Making things up again. I made an observation about a very frequently seen trend.

Why do you keep making these incredibly aggressive personal attacks? Honestly, it feels like a very deliberate attempt to stop me posting.

Araminta1003 · Today 09:20

Regarding allegations of two tier policing:

  1. personally I agree with the fact that there should be no religious or ceremonial weapons of any sort in public. I think if people want to own “religious” weapons there should be licensing and limited to 1 max 2 per household and heavily controlled.

  2. if the police are using drone footage and racial recognition technology - again, the right wingers have an argument of two tier policing because certain religions can cover their faces entirely for religious reasons.

I do think open debate about 1 and 2 is required however uncomfortable for the politicians.

bafta16 · Today 09:23

Why is Farage making political capital out of this terribly sad event. I believe the family asked for peace.
And as for SYL, there are no words.

SpaceRaccoon · Today 09:24

I've just learned that someone actually called the police over a hour earlier, reporting an altercation and a stabbing.
The police did not attend. They only attended after the race card phone call.
Henry lived for well over an hour then. If he'd had prompt help, he might well have lived.
But of course a mere stabbing isn't enough to get the police out. Not the priority at all.

Araminta1003 · Today 09:25

And I think the other point that needs discussion is that we have different laws to the US including as regards freedom of speech and carrying weapons. What is legal in the US may not be legal here. That really needs explaining loud and clear for a lot of less educated people who are heavily influenced by social media.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:27

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:13

I realised my post wasn't entirely clear and edited it immediately, and you have replied to the edited post - as shown in the quote. It's only possible to edit in the few minutes after posting, so your claim that I edited it after your post is blatantly untrue.

You rushed to respond without bothering to read what you were replying to. That's on you.

I really am beginning to feel personally targeted by you with a lot of wholly untrue accusations and very unpleasant and aggressive personal attacks. I don't know what your beef is, but just stop.

Nope I replied to your unedited post! Just because it’s now showing it was edited when I quoted you then it will have edited everything! Don’t give me that shit! The original post before you edited it was 2 lines long. I saw it

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:30

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:17

Making things up again. I made an observation about a very frequently seen trend.

Why do you keep making these incredibly aggressive personal attacks? Honestly, it feels like a very deliberate attempt to stop me posting.

Again you quoted me and basically said that the the word racist isn’t mentioned in the video! There is a whole thread about it! Why quote me? If you want to know am answer to a question then just ask the thread! Why quote a specific person (aka me) and then insinuate that I’m lying because you have’t read or heard the full story?? Other than to purposely gaslight me???

Crocsarentslippers · Today 09:30

It's completely the opposite of two tier policing.

Young people of colour have died being arrested or in police custody, and it has led to civil unrest egged on by unscrupulous characters using it for their own publicity and political gains.

That's exactly what has happened here, except it is a young white man.

If anything, it is remarkably consistent and equal, with the common denominator being fatally incompetent policing.

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:38

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:27

Nope I replied to your unedited post! Just because it’s now showing it was edited when I quoted you then it will have edited everything! Don’t give me that shit! The original post before you edited it was 2 lines long. I saw it

Edited

So perhaps you learn to use the preview function before replying. You accused me of something that was untrue because you chose to misinterpret even the original version. Own it.

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:40

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:30

Again you quoted me and basically said that the the word racist isn’t mentioned in the video! There is a whole thread about it! Why quote me? If you want to know am answer to a question then just ask the thread! Why quote a specific person (aka me) and then insinuate that I’m lying because you have’t read or heard the full story?? Other than to purposely gaslight me???

Edited

I did NOT say that. I said I did not hear it being used at the point when the victim was saying that he was stabbed, but I was asking a question about whether that was what the police were claiming, because the recording isn't very clear. I did ask the question. Stop lying.

OneStarAwake · Today 09:40

SpaceRaccoon · Today 09:24

I've just learned that someone actually called the police over a hour earlier, reporting an altercation and a stabbing.
The police did not attend. They only attended after the race card phone call.
Henry lived for well over an hour then. If he'd had prompt help, he might well have lived.
But of course a mere stabbing isn't enough to get the police out. Not the priority at all.

That is awful. How did you learn about this?

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:42

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:40

I did NOT say that. I said I did not hear it being used at the point when the victim was saying that he was stabbed, but I was asking a question about whether that was what the police were claiming, because the recording isn't very clear. I did ask the question. Stop lying.

Edited

So go back and read the news rather than quoting me! Ffs
Again just because you didn’t hear it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen! Evidence suggests it did!

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:43

CaesarAugusta · Today 09:38

So perhaps you learn to use the preview function before replying. You accused me of something that was untrue because you chose to misinterpret even the original version. Own it.

So far we have had you quote me and claim you heard nothing of the sort on the video you watched. Okay!

Then you claimed you didn’t say something you said.

Then you quoted me on a response to you with a 2 line sentence and then after I responded to that you edited your post to add more detail, then claimed you had already edited it before I responded

Then I get the words “I’m making things up”

Again just fuck off with your gaslighting! I’m not getting sucked into it and you’re making yourself look silly at this point

JuliaBraverman · Today 10:41

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 08:57

I agree. The amount of of denial is unreal

Oh there’s been plenty of deniers on all these threads. Whatever fits the lefty viewpoint as per…

sleepwouldbenice · Today 12:16

MaCheCazzo · Yesterday 10:28

This unspeakable tragedy is just a bandwagon for Farage. An opportunity. If you think he gives the smallest shit about the victim you are wrong. He cares about using both victim and perpetrator for his own ends. That's what he's doing and that's what he's happy doing.

Agreed
I basically stand with his parents
They are outraged at what has happened. They want meaningful change
But they dont want hate and division to increase
Nigel, Tommy and plenty of posters on here do
And somehow they think their views are more pertinent or relevant

ChunkyMonkey36 · Today 12:20

sleepwouldbenice · Today 12:16

Agreed
I basically stand with his parents
They are outraged at what has happened. They want meaningful change
But they dont want hate and division to increase
Nigel, Tommy and plenty of posters on here do
And somehow they think their views are more pertinent or relevant

Couldn’t agree more.

People can have “legitimate concerns” all they like, they don’t trump the feelings and preferences of grieving families.

I hope everyone who rioted in the name of someone who they didn’t know, and who those who did know and love them had asked them not to, is punished accordingly - or deeply ashamed of themselves.

NovemberMorn · Today 12:42

Sunglade · Yesterday 19:39

You're right, one can easily walk along the street with an axe and no one would look twice!

Obviously you haven't read that he was back in court yesterday, with his father and brother, charged with multiple weapons offences.
One offence his brother is faced with is possessing an axe in a public place.

TopPocketFind · Today 13:05

Farage did not respect Henry Nowak family's wishes and he did not condemn yesterday's violence

The far right was present at the riots last night

But lefties are the problem?

Whysnothingsimple · Today 13:11

TopPocketFind · Today 13:05

Farage did not respect Henry Nowak family's wishes and he did not condemn yesterday's violence

The far right was present at the riots last night

But lefties are the problem?

The ridiculous notions that the left has been pushing on society for years now has pushed people further right as the la la leftist ideology separates more and more from people’s lived experiences. If the left had kept more of a grip on reality and not been hell bent on undermining Britain, its history, culture and values (the same across the west) then no, we wouldn’t be in this position with the right now.

Did anti racist campaigners exploit the death of Stephen Lawrence?

Society needs a massive readjustment.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Today 13:15

Whysnothingsimple · Today 13:11

The ridiculous notions that the left has been pushing on society for years now has pushed people further right as the la la leftist ideology separates more and more from people’s lived experiences. If the left had kept more of a grip on reality and not been hell bent on undermining Britain, its history, culture and values (the same across the west) then no, we wouldn’t be in this position with the right now.

Did anti racist campaigners exploit the death of Stephen Lawrence?

Society needs a massive readjustment.

Oh, so to be clear, we’ve brought these riots on ourselves by “undermining Britain” despite that not being a real thing?

Whysnothingsimple · Today 13:17

ChunkyMonkey36 · Today 12:20

Couldn’t agree more.

People can have “legitimate concerns” all they like, they don’t trump the feelings and preferences of grieving families.

I hope everyone who rioted in the name of someone who they didn’t know, and who those who did know and love them had asked them not to, is punished accordingly - or deeply ashamed of themselves.

Maybe the people protesting were worried for their white teenage sons knowing that they are increasingly at risk of various allegations by people who know they will usually be seen as the victims. No one takes priority over tummy concern for my son.

Whysnothingsimple · Today 13:19

ChunkyMonkey36 · Today 13:15

Oh, so to be clear, we’ve brought these riots on ourselves by “undermining Britain” despite that not being a real thing?

Edited

Im not sure your comprehension skills are of a level so you can “be clear” if that’s what you think my post said.