2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

The killer and his family were wrong to do that. Sadly Nigel and his gang are now monopolizing on this to their advantage.

This murderer was obsessed with knifes and sounds deranged. Nothing to do with being Sikh and carrying a Kirpan.

Young people are unfortunately stabbing each other for whatever reason. If this murderer wasn't Sikh he might still have carried a knife as many young people do.

I don’t think this is true on a wide of a scale as you’re making it out to be. I know many police officers and they are not Tommy Robinson supporters. The nature of the police - the fact they need to be people ‘tough’ enough to physically take on criminals on a fairly regular basis - of course means it attracts a certain type of person in many cases, and there will always be bad apples. But the job itself is horrendous - they’re regularly spat on, assaulted, kicked, punched, scratched, headbutted. Staying in character 100% of the time is a very tall order.

So my own experience of the police and that of my friends and family aren’t relevant

in my own experience the police are racists to the point that they are so scared of being called racist that all that matters to them

seen it with my own eyes several times

no one is forced to be a police officer so if you join up your accepting that your part of a job that is racist homophobic ..

therefore they can as far as I’m concerned take what people think about them and tough shit if they don’t like it

And personally I think they are absolutely awful and they would absolutely be the last if ever people I would want myself or any of my family go to for help

Eh?

So if you’re the victim of a crime, what do you intend to do - nothing? Tell nobody?

Sounds.. sensible.

I don’t think all police are racists.

i do think there are an awful lot of them who prioritise their jobs rather than doing the right thing because they don’t want to lose their job for fear of being labelled “racist”.

He doesn’t care about the victim or his family. The family specifically asked that this tragedy was not politicised. It’s a great opportunity for him to move the dialogue along from his 5m donation. Shameless excuse for a man.

@standfirm - like I said, gross negligence manslaughter requires causation. It is not a strict liability offence like dangerous driving (just an example) where you can commit an offence even without someone being harmed by your actions.

Then we need to make it so losing their job over doing the right thing isn’t the norm, and that means politicising this tragedy sadly.

@StandFirm - maybe you were thinking of an unlawful arrest claim and possible compensation? Is that what you mean?

But their actions didn’t lead to his death, so GNM can’t be applied here.

It’s a charge used for (for example) doctors who give such woeful care they kill their patient, or employers who don’t use safety equipment and so one of their employees dies in a mechanical or factory accident.

The actions of the accused has to have lead to the death of the victim. That didn’t happen here with regards to the police. Yes the ‘policing’ was woeful but they didn’t cause his death.

I agree. My heart breaks for poor Henry Nowak. I’ve seen the video and the police had no excuse apart from they wanted to listen to bleats of “racist” over poor Henry telling them he had been stabbed

Are you still agreeing with Farage?

thats a ridiculous statement! So if you got mugged or worse you would just leave it? Really??

"A group of Sheffield schools has come under fire after introducing lesson plans that tell children as young as seven that white people enjoy racial privilege, and that black people are incapable of being racist towards white people, prompting accusations of "political indoctrination" from Conservative politicians.
The lesson plans, devised by a teaching school alliance allegedly led by Notre Dame High School, a Government-designated national teaching school, reportedly aim to "empower" students and teachers to challenge "the unequal systems that surround us in society."

God. I do despair at our education system. It’s like they make this stuff up to give Reform or Restore votes.

Causing division and encouraging racism, God knows where they get these idiots from.
Probably wet behind the ears graduates with no life experience.

Is that the excuse the police have actually given? I couldn't hear anyone in the video talking about racism at the point when they were dealing with Henry.

What I find odd about these idiots is that they claim to be intensely patriotic, yet they can't be bothered to use their country's language properly; and they have taken at least eleven years of education given to them by the country they claim to love so much, yet they seem to get little or nothing out of any of it. It's like they're throwing it straight back in the country's face.

You couldn't hear one of the men talking about being called racist names by Henry?

There have been riots but someone started a thread bleating on about Tommy Robinson and the far right

Oh and before you come back at me with something else, here read it yourself…. Straight off the gov website!

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/home-secretary-statement-on-henry-nowak

It clearly says
“Digwa murdered Henry and then lied about him, as he lay dying, falsely accusing him of racism. It was an evil act and I know the thoughts of the whole House will now be with Henry’s family and his friends just as mine are.”

The riots are against the police not the Sikh community and I fully understand their reasoning. It’s not time to turn the other cheek. I abhor violence …pity the police don’t agree. They will all be labelled far right today but we know How meaningless that is now

Funny isn't it how riots against the police shouting defund the police are fine when it's during the country's lockdown period. Not only that but the cause is discussed in places of education. No cries of hate and division, but anger when it's acknowledged every single life matters.