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2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · Yesterday 09:12

Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

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JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 14:37

hairbearbunches · Yesterday 14:17

Farage is only able to wedge his poison front and centre because there has been a moral vacuum in this country for more than 3 decades. We have pandered to all manner of bullshit instead of welcoming people to live here and making it clear that this is how we do things and if you don't like that, then don't come because any deviation will not be tolerated. Farage, or someone else like him, has been nailed on for years, probably since Blair in fact.

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beAsensible1 · Yesterday 14:46

There is no two tier policing. This rubbish is constantly providing cover for shit and incompetent police officers. Stop. The issue is the police, not this made up fear that they don’t want to upset ethnics. When there is copious evidence they have no issue doing the opposite.

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 14:46

wombat1a · Yesterday 14:18

I think it goes to show what an incredibly hard job the police have. Only last week 2 men in an airport beat the 7 bells out of some police and then were aquited in a court of doing that.

I feel it is time we had some US style laws such as beat on the police and its jail time, do it three times and its a 20 year sentence type thing.

People keep going on about the number of people in prison in the UK, the problem isn't the sentencing, its the number of criminals. Reduce the criminals and the number of jail places drops. Two ways to reduce criminals, #1 let them do stuff nut do not classify it as criminal, #2 make the sentences so harsh people don't want to become criminals.

That happened 2 years ago. One has been in custody since last year, he will be sentenced next month for fighting and breaking one of the officer's noses.
The other brother has walked free.

This case and the policing of it bear no comparison.

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 14:50

beAsensible1 · Yesterday 14:46

There is no two tier policing. This rubbish is constantly providing cover for shit and incompetent police officers. Stop. The issue is the police, not this made up fear that they don’t want to upset ethnics. When there is copious evidence they have no issue doing the opposite.

I think the grooming gangs were operating in broad daylight for many years because the police didn't want to 'upset ethnics' and cause racial disharmony.

ChocolatesAndRainbows · Yesterday 14:51

SamAylward · Yesterday 09:21

I don't listen to LBC, but whatever Farage said, I'm against it.

I've scraped better things than that man off of the sole of my shoe.

Oh so your ok with Yong ppl being murdered with weapons that regulus ppl carry in the name of religion and police letting someone bleed out die on the street when they are begging the police for help?? Cool ok

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 14:52

mumumental · Yesterday 14:25

Nobody should carry weapons and it should be banned for everyone. If anyone who believes that non white people in this country are treated better than others, they are idiots.

Idiots for believing everyone should be policed equally? Bizarre

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 15:03

Parliament allowed the religious exemption of the Kirpan specifically. It is illegal in Italy, Denmark, France largely, I think mostly illegal in Spain/Germany.
We have a knife problem but then allow this kind of exemption. It doesn’t make sense.
I get the US allow weapons more readily but why us.
I think Parliament need to look at this exemption again. It doesn’t make sense to have it here.

Corianda · Yesterday 15:04

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 14:50

I think the grooming gangs were operating in broad daylight for many years because the police didn't want to 'upset ethnics' and cause racial disharmony.

Yes, not just police but local councils, social workers,MPs …..

Araminta1003 · Yesterday 15:06

We still have far too many deaths by knife crime. I want to see zero tolerance not more covering up by politicians going on and on about how it’s reduced by 25 per cent.
zero tolerance more stop and search and curb the extreme levels of activism on our streets. It’s gone too far. Every man and his dog comes here to express their opinions legally. No thanks.

mumumental · Yesterday 15:06

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 14:30

Just quickly, remind me who was treated better by the police henry Nowak or Digwa?

I think you are not taking this seriously. Perhaps you can’t.

Ipsevenenabibas · Yesterday 15:07

mumumental · Yesterday 15:06

I think you are not taking this seriously. Perhaps you can’t.

Oh I'm serious and I'm waiting for your answer to my question. Thanks in advance.

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 15:07

I sense the law re the kirpan will soon be looked at and changed.
Like some elder Sikhs have pointed out, a miniature, blunt Kirpan could be carried as a symbol, instead of the dangerous weapon now allowed.

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 15:11

Corianda · Yesterday 15:04

Yes, not just police but local councils, social workers,MPs …..

The list goes on, but this isn't the thread.
Politicians like Lowe and now Farage will jump on the back of these atrocities, Lowe with the grooming gangs, Farage with this latest tragedy, simply to further their own careers.

It sickens me they use events__ like this to score points.

TopPocketFind · Yesterday 15:13

trueredstart · Yesterday 13:43

Could you just for one minute, please, connect two brain cells together for a moment and think about what it is you've just said?

In fact, please tell me why you think it's a good thing that the Stand Up We're Racist crowd turned up to Henry Novak's vigil – a White boy from Essex who had just been handcuffed and left to bleed to death because the word 'racism!' was used – to start chanting about how there are many more of us than you, and that refugees are welcome? Why is that a GOOD thing?

Maybe you could do the same and read what I actually said rather than just making stuff up.

CaesarAugusta · Yesterday 15:14

Why ban religious weapons? A kirpan was to used for this killing.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:14

The politicisation of this tragic death appals me. As does the overt racism it has engendered. It’s very sad to see what this country has become.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:15

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Icanthinkformyselfthanks · Yesterday 15:15

LordofMisrule1 · Yesterday 09:56

YANBU.

I am married to a Sikh. Nobody in his family carries the dagger, because carrying a bladed weapon in public is insane. The whole idea is so that Sikhs can defend others if needed, but frankly if a Sikh whipped out a dagger to 'defend' someone they'd be rightly arrested and prosecuted. It's all ceremonial and outdated.

I think this will lead to the allowance for Sikhs to carry weapons being overturned, and rightly so. It cannot be allowed to continue that some people can carry knives around because of their religion and others can't.

And yes this incident is simply horrifying. What that poor young man went through as he lay dying made me cry. Telling the police he'd been stabbed and hearing 'I don't think you have mate' is just deplorable. There would be riots over this if it were the other way around.

@LordofMisrule1 , the Sikh community are very well integrated and respected members of our society I believe this tragedy will not alter that respect but there should be an end now to any differences in rules to allow for people’s various sensibilities religious or otherwise. There is no equality until everyone is treated exactly the same.

CaesarAugusta · Yesterday 15:16

I'm mostly shocked that Farage chose to do this in a heavily trailed rabble-rousing speech rather than by doing his job as an MP and raising it in Parliament.

I'm also shocked that, having finally come out of hiding, he didn't choose to address the issue of his £5m bung.

Hang on, did I say I was shocked? Silly me, of course I'm not shocked, it was all utterly predictable.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:18

CaesarAugusta · Yesterday 15:16

I'm mostly shocked that Farage chose to do this in a heavily trailed rabble-rousing speech rather than by doing his job as an MP and raising it in Parliament.

I'm also shocked that, having finally come out of hiding, he didn't choose to address the issue of his £5m bung.

Hang on, did I say I was shocked? Silly me, of course I'm not shocked, it was all utterly predictable.

Classy - using this thread to raise money matters. Talk about trivialising.

NovemberMorn · Yesterday 15:18

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trueredstart · Yesterday 15:18

TopPocketFind · Yesterday 15:13

Maybe you could do the same and read what I actually said rather than just making stuff up.

I did.

Did you know that so-called anti-racist activists turned up at a vigil for Henry Nowak yesterday waving placards? Sick fuckers on the left.
> Do you mean 'refugees welcome here'?
> What is sick about that?

You said what's sick about that, with 'that' being the SUTR crowd turning up to the vigil of an entirely innocent, murdered boy. Please tell me why it was not sick.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:20

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Oh did you? Then you come back to prioritise scrutiny of Farage's conduct. Try calming down.

CaesarAugusta · Yesterday 15:20

Snoozysnoozy · Yesterday 10:00

Then you are part of the problem. You don't care what he said but he must be wrong? Even though one man died while being arrested?

I don't agree with Farage, or many politicians, but when they're right, they're right. Or because he said it's bad do you think a dead man must therefore be good?

Face it, Farage didn't say this because he cares one jot about the victim. He's perfectly comfortable with police killing people, if anything he probably wants them to do it more often.

He said it purely because he saw a chance to whip his dimmer followers up into another frenzy of indignation about brown people. You can bet half of them are setting up demos outside their local mosques right now, given that they're too thick to distinguish between Muslims and Sikhs or to work out that you can't tar a whole community with the awful crimes of one member of that community.

Gloriia · Yesterday 15:21

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:14

The politicisation of this tragic death appals me. As does the overt racism it has engendered. It’s very sad to see what this country has become.

The politicisation?! That is what politicians should do, highlight the absolute incompetence of our police force and the ridiculous tip toeing around that they do as soon as any alleged victim bleats 'racism'. It is their job to actually raise such horrific incidents.

Henry Nowak was let down massively by stupid plods who should be sacked.

That is what should appal you.