Nicola Sturgeon STILL didn't know her husband stole £400,000

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Follow on from previous thread.

What a wonderfully thought out, well articulated and insightful response.

Jesus.

Thank you. I agree.

They are very different systems. I am struck by the deference given to the Scottish FM compared to a British PM who has crawl through questions every week in an atmosphere much like a rowdy pub. And everyone will rip it out of you depending on their politics.

I remember when the SNP first became a significant force in Westminster and they got told off for clapping every time their leader spoke. Now they don’t do that anymore, but it’s not exactly the bloodsport that the House of Commons has regularly.

So, the £600K are still missing in their entirety, is that right, the ~£400K embezzlement doesn't change that?

Says the woman who name changed then got caught out. By herself 🤣

Yeah, cause embezzlement and fraud on a massive scale affecting thousands of people is TOTALLY comparable to changing your name on Mumsnet.

Call the Polis.

We’re more civilised in Scotland.

Of course! Westminster is the pit

Who are the thousands of people? SNP members? The ones who have been donating since this all happened? You can see by the money they are all donating that they are worried. Or, you can see that they support their party and by extension, Nicola.

It is. I agree. School boy stuff.

But basically two different mentalities. One is deferential. The second is looking for any immediate weakness. You will get different problems in each system. And leaders to match whatever challenges they put in front of them.

I don't necessarily believe supporting the party = supporting Nicola.

Yep. As far as anyone can tell.

There is no way I would watch UK PM Questions due to the infantile shouting and bawling from the sidelines. I watch FM questions, because all that childish pish is immediately shut down by the presiding officer.

I do. SNP member. Are you one?

Yet she didn’t leave until she wrote her ( failed) book.

Is anybody looking for it?

Two systems, two different sets of problems. Westminster has a strong element of theatre. Sometimes its charged atmosphere produces genuine accountability. Sometimes absolute guff. Genteel it is not. I understand the SNP dislike of it, it is longstanding. Otherwise you’d be wanting to stay in!

For a political leader though it is I think vastly tougher and competitive; and you get people who know they must perform to keep the job. Sturgeon looks to have had little challenge at all. That may have been a problem that contributed to her issues and presentation now.

I don't know. I expect things will unfold in due course.

There are many rumours flying about about potential court actions etc. But tbh its hard to keep track of all the issues.

Rotten is the word that springs to mind.

That's a good point. The presiding officer in Holyrood is more likely to clamp down on MSPs, IMO.

Many moons ago, I was briefly a member of the Dialectic Society at Glasgow Uni. (I gave up in the end because their 'lunchtime' debates clashed with one of my classes.)

Things could get a bit raucous and the debating chamber was a training ground for many Scottish MPs.

Exactly this

I give you Douglas Ross. The child of the Scottish Parliament. And Kezia back in the day. I liked and still like Kezia. But she was one of those people who just opened her mouth and let her belly rumble. She sometimes had a point, but it got lost in her delivery and the fact that she blamed the FM for things that were LA responsibilities. I do miss her though.

Couldn’t help it. I liked your post.

Douglas Ross? Wasn’t he some sort of Tory jellyfish? Not much competition.

I suppose the point is that more competition makes more better leaders, as does intense debate. Sturgeon did not havecany substantial challenge politically.