AIBU to ask tenants to move before or after new baby?

[CatWithAPetDog]

We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year. Our current tenants have a toddler and have just told me that they are expecting another baby in November.

If you were the tenant, would you prefer to have to move out whilst pregnant or with a young baby. I know it’s not great timing for them either way, but which would you say would be easier? We can wait a while as long as my son is moved in this time next year, but then they would have a toddler and six month old baby, so it may be easier to do it sooner with just a toddler?

They’ve been good tenants so I would like to cause them the least stress possible.

Sorry forgot to make boring make sense

YABU - Get them to move before the new baby arrives

YANBU - Get them to move after the new baby arrives

This is aibu. You asked a question. I am giving you my opinion and answering whether I think you are being unreasonable. I am not attacking you or slagging your family off right now i am just trying to explain my reasonings for why I thought you were unreasonable. I was wrong yesterday (and I truly am sorry, I was projecting, I am so ill and this has honestly been the hardest couple of years of my life) but I was trying to have a better conversation today but you obviously are not wanting to listen.

i wish your tenents luck and hope everything that has being going on with your son gets better.

Can you ask them what they would prefer? Just be open with them
edit to say - sorry didn’t read whole thread and seen it’s been sorted

If they are good tenants ask them which they would prefer.

Oh dear

Tell them now … so they have plenty of time to find somewhere!

How is she going to do that? It's really up to the tenants when they leave. Best thing is to give them notice now and let them decide when they are ready.

Did you call the OP cuntish and cruel?

Yes I did. Which I have apologised for. More than once. I said heee behaviour was Curtis’s and to chuck a family out while pregnant when her said potentially had other options was cruel. People have called people far worse on here. I have been called worst for less then potentially making a family homeless.

I have also admitted up to being wrong in how I approached it. which again people rarely do on here.

Glad it worked out with the tenants. You must realise however how tone deaf it is to post the question you posted in a housing crisis. You must realise how scared many tenants are. How precarious their situation is. You shouldn’t be taking offence or arguing with someone in a vulnerable housing situation regardless of what they’ve said to you. They are scared.

Hyperbole. OP was never chucking them out. At worst she was giving them legal notice and they could have lived there for a further year.

You apologised but then have continued to be horrible about her and her son. People make their own children their priority. That is normal.

Calling someone cruel and cuntish and then telling people you are kind is 🤯. With your comments on here, it’s actually funny if you believe you are kind.

You think OP shouldn’t take offence at being called cuntish? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Thank you

i was wrong. I will openly admit to that. People will not understand how awful it is to be in situations where you have no idea what is gonna happen next. And for it to repeatedly happen through no fault of your own.

If the op tenents couldn’t find somewhere to live and they did give them 4 months to e etc they could have become homeless.

I may have called someone a name over the internet once but I know that I would never ever intentionally make someone else homeless . I known that I will teach my children to think of others when making decisions and what the consequences of those decisions mean. I am kind and compassionate and I know that.

I have said sorry many times over which again people on mn rarely do but I am allowed to voice my opinion on privilege and answer on aibu if I think someone is in fact being unreasonable

Yes. She was wrong to post the question in a housing crisis. And she was wrong to be offended by the response to her tone deaf question from the safety of her secure housing. And she was wrong to continue to take umbrage after an apology. It feels like the people behind the castle walls being upset at pebbles being thrown at the wall by the people locked out. I don’t like the word personally but it’s fairly commonly used nowadays. It’s often used in banter now.

Isn’t this a no fault eviction that is now illegal?

No.
Landlords can issue a section 8, which gives four months notice, if they or a close family member will be moving into the property. There are some additional clauses around it eg they can't issue it within the first twelve months of the tenancy.

I see that you have hopefully come to an agreement which suits everyone OP. Some people just hate landlords regardless of proving yourself to be a decent one.

I must remember that I can call someone cuntish, apologise, continue to criticise them but tell people I’m am nice and kind. 😅 This place is wild!

No. You can give tenants notice if you want a close family member to live in the property. You have to give tenants 4 months notice. People need to remember that the landlord does own the property.

Sooner so they can sort out another place. You do know there's a lot of security for tenants now since May 1

People can call out someone. Say that their behaviour is cultish and cruel and still be an ok person. People call out shitty behaviour all the time. i have admitted I probably should have worded it better.

someone says their opinion on a forum which is aibu and uses swear words and says their behaviour is cruel- must be an awful person

someone potentially making a young family homeless so their son who has savings can live rent free- completely ok.

i can admit I went around something the wrong way whilst also saying that I believe someone is completely unreasonable in their thinking

You didn’t just ‘use’ swear words like ‘it’s fucking awful imo’, you actually called the OP ‘cuntish’ without actually knowing her, when actually she was showing that she was trying to be accommodating. Using a swear word and directly calling someone that name are very different things.

As for saying ‘potentially making a young family homeless so their son who has savings can live rent free’, you could easily say that she is acting within the law, giving more notice than necessary for a family to find another home and being a nice mum assisting her child with housing.

You are seriously projecting.

I said her behaviour was Cuntish and the way she was acting at the situation was. People have said that many times on this forum.

honestly from her comments it does seem that if push had come to shove she would have gone through the legal route which would have made them homeless. All the while knowing she would be doing this while her tenant was either pregnant or had a very young baby. Meanwhile it seems her son has savings and is able to be independent thus get his own place.

You're still projecting a lot here. The LL didn't say anything that I could see that suggested they were considering the court and bailiff route to leave them homeless. And if you think that a single young person having savings automatically means someone will give them a tenancy or mortgage then you're living in cloud cuckoo land.