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Allow a play date where mum unapologetically supports children’s education tax

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GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 11:16

Just this really, our local independent prep school closed due to the education tax earlier this year and has caused absolute chaos for lots of families, including my own. My dd (6) has been invited for a play date with a girl she seems very friendly with and who seems very sweet, but I’ve since found out from another parent that the mum is an ‘unapologetic education taxer’. My instinct is to cancel the play date, AIBU?

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LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 30/05/2026 19:23

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:17

It applies to all children if they ever have a non state educated option. All children. No exemptions.

Love. Respectfully. This is not all children is it..
It’s all affluent children. (Of parents who believe in independent education)
It’s not ever going to apply to Jayden from the sink estate with a schizophrenic mum who can’t work and a dad who hasn’t seen him for four years.
Stop trying to make your elitist views inclusive.

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:24

LetsMakeThisMomentLast · 30/05/2026 19:19

I can’t believe anyone would stop their child having a friendship with another child because of the opinion of said child’s parents on a particular subject. So petty and controlling. Your child will be glad when she reaches adulthood and can choose her own friends without interference from Mummy Dearest.

It’s not a ‘particular subject’ this is something that really affected my dd. I agree on the whole, but there are somethings that are too much.

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Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:24

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:21

It’s famously what people write when they don’t have an answer.

Is it?

Or is it what people write when they have the interests of wider society in mind rather than that of just themselves?

Why DONT you want equality?

Owly11 · 30/05/2026 19:24

Sorry but what have the political views of the parents of your daughter's friend got to do with whether she can go on the play date?

Theresafakeinmyboot · 30/05/2026 19:24

Shoes232 · 30/05/2026 19:14

The way you keep saying children’s education tax as if it’s all children and all education you care about trying to evoke emotion. No you are selfish. You remind me of Helen lovejoy.

“Will somebody please think of the children!”

ilovesooty · 30/05/2026 19:25

intrepidpanda · 30/05/2026 19:22

You do know adults can have differing views and still be friends never mind children that have no concept about why they cant play with a particular friend.

Well the daughter is going to be told she has strategic hay fever to avoid the play date. I'm not sure if she'll understand that.

Quokkas · 30/05/2026 19:25

intrepidpanda · 30/05/2026 19:22

You do know adults can have differing views and still be friends never mind children that have no concept about why they cant play with a particular friend.

I don’t think OP does realise that. Which is quite sad.

Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:25

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:24

It’s not a ‘particular subject’ this is something that really affected my dd. I agree on the whole, but there are somethings that are too much.

Yet you want to sabotage her budding friendship because you don't like her friends mums political viewpoint?

My son has a pal whose mum reportedly is probably trump, I'm not holding it against an 8 yr old that her mum is bonkers

Divebar2021 · 30/05/2026 19:26

How’s the vote working out for you ? Doesn’t bode well for your daughter’s friendships going forward does it ?

Keepoffmyartichokes · 30/05/2026 19:26

@GigglyOrange regardless of anyone's opinion on the VAT on private schools, the fact that you will not let your child be friends with someone who holds different opinions to you is shocking. We all have different opinions on different things but we can all still get along. If you are for real then you need to have a long hard look at yourself and realise your opinion isn't the only one that matters. What happens if your child grows up and has a different opinion to yours, or becomes a Labour supporter what are you going to do, kick her out? You honestly come across like a spoilt, entitled brat

Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:26

Theresafakeinmyboot · 30/05/2026 19:24

“Will somebody please think of the children!”

But only ALL the children... ALL the children who might ever have had a private schooling option ALL those children....

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:26

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 30/05/2026 19:23

Love. Respectfully. This is not all children is it..
It’s all affluent children. (Of parents who believe in independent education)
It’s not ever going to apply to Jayden from the sink estate with a schizophrenic mum who can’t work and a dad who hasn’t seen him for four years.
Stop trying to make your elitist views inclusive.

If Jayden excelled at drama and received a 75% scholarship it would apply to him. There are no exemptions. Of course there will be no scholarships for Jayden as costs are kept low to ease the burden of the education tax.

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Lavender14 · 30/05/2026 19:27

StudentsTwo · 30/05/2026 19:23

We pulled our ND child out of a sort after top local government grammar school with extensive facilities / new gym etc to move her to a local private school who had portable cabins for classrooms and no sports facilities on site so they walked to the local leisure centre for recreation twice a week - because she needed the smaller class sizes to SURVIVE school.
Not a lifestyle choice - the lifestyle choice would have been keeping her in a free government school and paying off our mortgage which is what most middle class families do. There are thousand of middle class families laughing at people like you thinking the tax is about lifestyle choice - because they have all bought big houses in catchments next to top FREE government schools, and while their kids get brilliant free educations, they are building their wealth by paying off their mortgages. That’s the lifestyle choice people like you seem to be oblivious to which makes me think you have zero experience of private schools due to your being so misinformed.

Don't get me wrong I understand why private schools work well for some children. But I also think that if the amount of money that goes into private schools each year went into public schools instead then there would be better resources to help all pupils maintain public education, including all of the children like your dd who are not in any education because they can't sustain public school and parents can't afford private.

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:28

Keepoffmyartichokes · 30/05/2026 19:26

@GigglyOrange regardless of anyone's opinion on the VAT on private schools, the fact that you will not let your child be friends with someone who holds different opinions to you is shocking. We all have different opinions on different things but we can all still get along. If you are for real then you need to have a long hard look at yourself and realise your opinion isn't the only one that matters. What happens if your child grows up and has a different opinion to yours, or becomes a Labour supporter what are you going to do, kick her out? You honestly come across like a spoilt, entitled brat

Again, it’s not different opinions. This woman is well aware up close of what this policy has done, it’s not just my family that have had to move.

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Quokkas · 30/05/2026 19:30

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:28

Again, it’s not different opinions. This woman is well aware up close of what this policy has done, it’s not just my family that have had to move.

If you earn £75k+, I’m baffled that you can’t afford private school for your daughter. You don’t sound like you have your daughter’s best interests at heart.

P1stschio · 30/05/2026 19:30

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:28

Again, it’s not different opinions. This woman is well aware up close of what this policy has done, it’s not just my family that have had to move.

The policy hasn’t done anything. You could not afford private education and didn’t prepare properly. You bought a luxury good you couldn’t afford. The onus is completely on you.

Theresafakeinmyboot · 30/05/2026 19:30

Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:25

Yet you want to sabotage her budding friendship because you don't like her friends mums political viewpoint?

My son has a pal whose mum reportedly is probably trump, I'm not holding it against an 8 yr old that her mum is bonkers

I moved schools and counties age 6, I’m fine….your DD will be too, with parental support. Not if you are going to behave like you have on this thread, she will just grow a chip of entitlement on each shoulder.

Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:31

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:26

If Jayden excelled at drama and received a 75% scholarship it would apply to him. There are no exemptions. Of course there will be no scholarships for Jayden as costs are kept low to ease the burden of the education tax.

You think Jayden whose mum is schizophrenic, dad doesn't work and loves on a sink estate has the opportunity to excel at drama and the support required to make that known to a private school? Not to mention lives within commutable distance and has someone in his life who can pay not only for these drama lessons, the transport and the uniform etc for the school but also the other 25% of the fees? Do you? Really? Gosh dyou know you've convinced me, what a great leveller private school is, how wonderful for ALL the children...

Theresafakeinmyboot · 30/05/2026 19:31

Quokkas · 30/05/2026 19:30

If you earn £75k+, I’m baffled that you can’t afford private school for your daughter. You don’t sound like you have your daughter’s best interests at heart.

Didn’t OP say the household income was £220k plus a stingy bonus?

Lavender14 · 30/05/2026 19:31

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:28

Again, it’s not different opinions. This woman is well aware up close of what this policy has done, it’s not just my family that have had to move.

But it is different opinions op. I can see that was difficult and stressful for your family. Your opinion is it should never have changed, my opinion is that you shouldn't have been able to access private education in the first place and that these changes need to happen. That is absolutely a difference in opinion!! And shouldn't be stopping your child from being able to make friends.

JassyRadlett · 30/05/2026 19:32

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:19

Again? Sorry must have missed that, what are you on about now?

Charming. What was I "on about" before?

For the hard of reading and totally ignorant of any education issues outside their own narrow obsession, the pupil population is in rapid decline and is having massive impacts across the school sector. I've seen no evidence that the private school attending demographic is not affected by this shift.

Key impacts:

  • Half a million fewer children in the state sector between 2020-2030
  • Nurseries and primaries already seeing big impacts - with school closures and shrinkage already happening and much more to come.
  • Even previously heavily oversubscribed schools are seeing catchments rapidly expand and their waiting lists disappear.
  • Secondary school impacts already being seen in inner and outer London and the national secondary population having now peaked.
  • The impact of children moving in from/not starting in the private sector is absolutely dwarfed by the negative budgetary pressure caused by the population decline.
Theresafakeinmyboot · 30/05/2026 19:33

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:26

If Jayden excelled at drama and received a 75% scholarship it would apply to him. There are no exemptions. Of course there will be no scholarships for Jayden as costs are kept low to ease the burden of the education tax.

They need to bring back the laughing reaction.

Can you honestly not see how tone deaf you are and why no one GAF about your issues on this subject?

GigglyOrange · 30/05/2026 19:33

Quokkas · 30/05/2026 19:30

If you earn £75k+, I’m baffled that you can’t afford private school for your daughter. You don’t sound like you have your daughter’s best interests at heart.

Yes I’m also baffled.

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Lavender14 · 30/05/2026 19:34

Velumental · 30/05/2026 19:31

You think Jayden whose mum is schizophrenic, dad doesn't work and loves on a sink estate has the opportunity to excel at drama and the support required to make that known to a private school? Not to mention lives within commutable distance and has someone in his life who can pay not only for these drama lessons, the transport and the uniform etc for the school but also the other 25% of the fees? Do you? Really? Gosh dyou know you've convinced me, what a great leveller private school is, how wonderful for ALL the children...

And exactly this. Private education siphons resources away from public schools making it even harder for the most vulnerable children to have the chance to 'excel'. The ones that get those scholarships are unicorns! It's absolute insanity to even say that as if its a level playing field.

Fleetingmoment · 30/05/2026 19:34

LeopardPrintIsNeutral · 30/05/2026 18:29

I could say the same about a decade of Tory austerity
But I’m not going to deny my infant and preschool aged children play dates with their friends because the parents believe in the two child benefit cap, or increasing tuition fees…

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