Allow a play date where mum unapologetically supports children’s education tax

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Just this really, our local independent prep school closed due to the education tax earlier this year and has caused absolute chaos for lots of families, including my own. My dd (6) has been invited for a play date with a girl she seems very friendly with and who seems very sweet, but I’ve since found out from another parent that the mum is an ‘unapologetic education taxer’. My instinct is to cancel the play date, AIBU?

I’m morally opposed to taxing education and think it’s incredibly short sighted given private school kids are saving tax payers dollars not being in state education - especially kids with Sen. But don’t punish a child for a parent’s views - take the moral high ground

Why would you disregard? Why do you have a problem with equality and equity?

The way you keep saying children’s education tax as if it’s all children and all education you care about trying to evoke emotion. No you are selfish. You remind me of Helen lovejoy.

She hasn't managed to answer your original question yet.

Of course.

But why are you letting it impact on your child’s friendships?
I’m incandescent that Margaret thatcher started the ball rolling to sell of all our social housing stock, forcing people into substandard housing they can’t afford
I’m furious that David Cameron and Nick Clegg raised tuition fees and got rid of NHS funding and bursaries for uni courses
I’m disgusted that we introduced caps on benefits that plunge the most vulnerable in our communities into poverty.
I think the right are absolutely abhorrent- and that it is morally reprehensible to vote for them.
But what I will not do, is project onto my daughters to such an extent that their friendships are impacted.
I will invite people on the opposite end of the political spectrum into my home, and make them a coffee, and sit in the garden and watch our children thrive making a den on the trampoline or creating a ridiculous dance because it quite simply isn’t important to a six year old, where there parents are on the political compass. (Naturally overt discrimination like the racism from restore and reform type parties is not tolerated here at all) but generally it’s about the kids and the bonds they build doing meaningful activities together

I’m hoping she will in time! Shall we ask again soon?

Again, I feel obliged to point you to the pupil population projections.

I completely agree I think it's deeply unethical and should be banned.

However, I'd still respect your opinion is different to mine and try to get to know you and treat you nicely if you came to my home and I'd have no issue with our kids playing together.

It says a lot about you if you can only exist in an echo chamber of people with hive mind and can't tolerate others different to yourself.

Oh and also FYI I'm tee total and don't smoke either. Maybe you should get out and meet more people op to broaden your world view.

The reason incase you're interested is because I support a scandi education approach where private education is not the done thing and instead parents pay into the generic education system massively benefiting ALL children and their education outcomes as well as other more holistic outcomes speak for themselves. What you're doing by supporting privatised eduction is prioritising the needs of your child over others and also contributing to the poverty gap. So it's ironic you'd talk about the ethics of it.

It applies to all children if they ever have a non state educated option. All children. No exemptions.

ODFOD

Also

Coming on here, with the knowledge of this level of privilege you're drowning in

Crying about your poor child's misfortune

Give your head a wobble would you?!

So you pay more than £15k in tax each year - and therefore earn a £75k+ pre-tax salary?

Again? Sorry must have missed that, what are you on about now?

I can’t believe anyone would stop their child having a friendship with another child because of the opinion of said child’s parents on a particular subject. So petty and controlling. Your child will be glad when she reaches adulthood and can choose her own friends without interference from Mummy Dearest.

Yes

Absolutely. Our girls go to a well run small primary in an affluent village with a very supportive parent cohort, and they definitely aren't meeting the needs of all the children - there is a 2 year wait for EHCP's, so they are doing their best to meet SEN need via their general funding, charity applications, funding requests to the village residents association, frequent requests for parents donations. The head has to go cap in hand to these groups for funding in a desperate attempt to meet needs of some really complex children. And she will fully admit that her school isn't the right setting, and they can't meet need despite her very best efforts, a fantastic committed staff team. And because these children (through absolutely no fault of theirs or their parents who really just want the best) are taking up such a large proportion of the schools time and resources, it's impacting on the education of other children. At least 5 parents have moved their children into private as they want their child to have an education which meets their needs.

It’s famously what people write when they don’t have an answer.

I understand that but it’s funny how OP isn’t blaming the school for passing the cost on. There are many ways they could argue it (all flawed IMO)

But you still can’t afford private school?

Oh, and you claim your daughter’s friend’s parents are alcoholics and they smoke?

You do know adults can have differing views and still be friends never mind children that have no concept about why they cant play with a particular friend.

If you don't think you should "pay tax on my child's education" (which you're not actually doing anyway, but) there's a simple solution: don't buy education services from a private business. Which, based on the information you've provided (and assuming that information is true; big assumption), seems to have been a pretty badly-run business.

We pulled our ND child out of a sort after top local government grammar school with extensive facilities / new gym etc to move her to a local private school who had portable cabins for classrooms and no sports facilities on site so they walked to the local leisure centre for recreation twice a week - because she needed the smaller class sizes to SURVIVE school.
Not a lifestyle choice - the lifestyle choice would have been keeping her in a free government school and paying off our mortgage which is what most middle class families do. There are thousand of middle class families laughing at people like you thinking the tax is about lifestyle choice - because they have all bought big houses in catchments next to top FREE government schools, and while their kids get brilliant free educations, they are building their wealth by paying off their mortgages. That’s the lifestyle choice people like you seem to be oblivious to which makes me think you have zero experience of private schools due to your being so misinformed.

So all children... In roughly the top 5% income brackets... So around 5% of children give or take? ALL of those children. But not the other 95% ISH of children in the country, it in no way effects any taxation related to THEIR education.

So by ALL children you mean a tiny, tiny minority of children whose families will pay slightly more for their private schooling as the business they use for schooling passes on the business they have to pay rather than absorbing the costs themselves. And only a fraction of the actual CHILDREN will suffer any ill consequences from this because for the majority of private schools kids their parents will barely notice the extra coming out because they are already paying from the leftover portion of their income, the luxury buying portion so they will just continue as normal but have 2% less in their trust fund. My heart bleeds