Allow a play date where mum unapologetically supports children’s education tax

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Just this really, our local independent prep school closed due to the education tax earlier this year and has caused absolute chaos for lots of families, including my own. My dd (6) has been invited for a play date with a girl she seems very friendly with and who seems very sweet, but I’ve since found out from another parent that the mum is an ‘unapologetic education taxer’. My instinct is to cancel the play date, AIBU?

And tutors for 11+?
And moving closer to a better school? (Not sure how that would be managed….)
And only allowed X number of extra-curriculars?
The list goes on.
Is that all unethical?

Private schooling does tend to give one an unshakeable conviction in ones own abilities and superiority even when not fully warranted

See: innumerable UK politicians, this thread

Yours, a state school Oxbridge graduate

I hope you were able to find a different independent school as you certainly wouldn’t want your children in state education; I’m a teacher and support the tax as do a lot of my colleagues so goodness knows what you think of our suitability to work with children.

Do you smoke and drink your way through your lessons? I know I do.

😂

Private school is not a luxury for many parents. Its the only way their children can get anything like a decent education. Im willing to bet that plenty of the naysayers would, if they could afford to, send their kids to a private school rather than a school on the edge of a sink estate with old fridges and sofas in the front garden 😆😆

So just the average and thickos at state school struggle then? Haha.

OP, give that woman the heave-ho, you don’t need that lefty aggression in your life. Plenty of other nice kids to play with. Her views must be particularly strong if her reputation precedes her.

Erm go on then, blow my mind and let me know where this European country is that it’s illegal to charge for education (nope, not Finland). I can tell you about the 28 member states of the EU where it’s illegal to tax children’s education? and the 13 where there are tax incentives to pay for your own child’s education.
Pure ignorance.

It is absolutely a luxury. But the economics don’t work. It doesn’t raise any money.

Successful schools pay less tax as they reclaim their VAT. Do you have any idea how much big successful schools spend on massive capital projects? They save 20% on all those costs now. Not to mention all their other day to day expenditure.

Unsuccessful schools close so they don’t pay any tax and the children go into state education costing the government more money.

It is small primary schools that are closing in the main. Because parents will not pay up to £30k per year now when there’s a half decent state down the road.

I’m not against private education VAT in principal. I’m against it because it was rushed through without the numbers being properly crunched. It is a populist policy only. Not fiscal.

Totally agree OP. It's bad enough your child now has to share physical contact with common people who lack any common sense about the right of some special children to get special education, why would you impose on your child to spend time outside of school with such parasites. They could influence your child and she could come back questioning your exemplary views about life. How dare them.

You owe it your child to restrict their social life to insure they are kept from negative influences. Whether the kid is friendly and welcoming is irrelevant. Your child need to start learning this very quickly.

Funnily enough, the state school I went to, which sent me to Oxbridge, was lovely. And if you are living on a sink estate with sofas in gardens but have money for private school you have made some very foolish choices that imply low intelligence...

You’ve lost me.

Because he's not a selfish stuck up twat? Seriously this has to be fake. You almost had me up to the bit where you said if they support VAT on private schools they are "probably" not suitable people for your child to visit because they'll be drinking, smoking etc to excess. So its a spoof, or you are mentally unwell and unfit to be a parent. Posh rich people don't drink smoke or shove powder up their noses do they? Of course not. What a laugh this thread is. Ooh they don't like it up 'em. Hee hee. Has anyone asked yet why you think your child is entitled to a better standard of education than anyone else's?

You think her views are immoral, but you think you shouldn’t have to pay tax? That’s a bit rich 😂

Thinking private schools are unethical isn’t a petty ‘why do some kids have more?’ argument. It’s about the systemic separation of classes meaning the government can quietly underfund the public sector knowing those who have the power to insist on change will simply move out of said sector.

Providing poor services to people who are uneducated, poor, ill, stressed, non-English speakers or discriminated against is nice an easy.

If private education and health care are not available then those in power are forced to treat all people the way they would like their own loved ones treated rather than separating society into ‘people like us’ and ‘those lot’

Farmers committing suicide to avoid inheritance tax ?

Her views are definitely immoral, there’s no room for doubt. I don’t understand your comment about thinking I shouldn’t have to pay tax. If you mean education tax then you are right I don’t think I should pay tax on my child’s eduction, I don’t think you should either …or any child should pay tax on their education. I think every child should be entitled to a tax free education.There is quite clearly something fundamentally wrong with a country that deliberately limits its own children’s plurality of education options.

Oh, you're in favour of kids getting hit by cars? You should let people know, they can keep their kids away from you.

Tell us, OP, have you ever been in favour of a policy that left someone else worse off?

Every child is already entitled to a tax free education. In a State school.

Of course her views are not immoral, that is patently absurd.

Every child is entitled to a tax free education. Its provided for free by the state.

I been thinking this by seeing all the posts about parents trying to get tutors to coach their children to pass the entrance exams. They are obviously not clever enough to pass them on their own merits. Years ago with the 11+ there was no coaching you either were clever enough to pass or not.

Yes. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36zd6n03zro

I wouldn’t send my kid to a private school, I’d hate them turning out like you and the OP.

Well, we'll just have to disagree.