AIBU to think booing the exhausted charity climbers was unfair?

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2 charity climbers booed ,because they went before the queue to touch the top!Had already done the 3 peaks challenge and were exhausted .A man physically tried to stop them by putting his hand out! YABU they should have waited .YANBU they should not have been booed

When hiking mountains, it is tradition to touch the trig point, any mountain, if fact any named hill that has a trig, there are books and apps that you can tick off your peaks. lol

and yet after climbing the mountain (walking up the path) they felt the need to piss off the other 100+ people that had done the exact same thing by pushing in, again, you go UP the steps to the top of the cairn and touch the trig to "bag the trig"

I very much doubt they were they only 2 people up there for charity.

Charity isn't an excuse.

I've always thought that queues are for taking selfies. And that the selfie makers should alternate with people who just want to have a quick look/touch, don't need the place for themselves and are done in seconds.

Which means, if they want to take a photo of just themselves, they should queue. If they want touch and go, they can squeeze between two selfie makers, no harm done.

you cant just Squeese in, there is a narrow staircase up the cairn, with no barriers over the side, if you try to squeese up you could topple someone over the top, if thats what they did im not surprised they got a mouthful

Not all mountains have trig points on them.

What about munros? What about Wainwrights? They certainly don't all have trig points on them. Not all trig points are at the highest points either.

Trig points are also younger than the 'tradition' of hill walking in this country. Cairns are arguably more traditional than trig points.

I'm sorry, but 'bagging trigs ' rather than just reaching the top of the hill is just as laughable as queuing to take selfies.

trig points have been around since the 1936 and OH really? bronze or iron age cairns are older than trigs? you clearly dont know as much about what your talking about as you think you do,

I SAID any mountain, if fact any named hill that has a trig - i didt say they all do,

and yet thats exactly what they were doing.

If the trig point is at the highest point and you haven’t gone up to it then you haven’t been to the top and can’t say you’ve walked up x mountain. 🤷🏻‍♀️. Some people might be happy with saying they nearly got to the top, just didn’t do the last ten foot but most people want to finish it properly.

You say “bagging trigs “. I’d say they were walking up Snowdon. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Thanks, I haven't checked this specific mountain.

I just know that it works like this at many places, queues are for selfies, if you don't need one, you just go and have a quick look.

If what they did was unsafe, then they are obviously wrong.

bagging trigs = touching the trig the very thing they Said they were doing in the artical.

Touching trigs and walking up a hill is the same thing……that’s my point!

I can't imagine they would have gone up the steps - they would have just scrambled up the side.

This is the crazy thing - the cairn and trig point is easily accessible from all sides, however tourists have 'decided' that everyone should go up one set of steps and down the other.

You've kinda got it here, the way people queue generally means that the people taking the photo at the top can get a photo with no one in the frame behind them.

Those that just push in to touch the top are getting into the frame of the photo that people have waited patiently to take. The people taking for the photo then wait for the pushers to move again to get that clear photo, so it holds up the whole queue.

It might not be a mountain rule, but I do think it's basic manners to wait.

and i’d say you’re walking up Yr Wyddfa.

Fun fact - the trig point on Snowdon was decommissioned in 1937, because the summit buildings blocked the views to it so it couldn't be used for actual triangulation - the actual trig point is on Carnedd Ugain - you go past it if you ascend via Crib Goch/Y Ddysgl.

The current Yr Wyddfa 'trig point' is a fake that was built in 2001 along with the steps for accessibility.

I wouldn’t because i can’t spell it 😁. And I used to live just outside Llanberis. 😁

Yes I bypassed the steps last time I went. Scrambled up the side.

Tradition, such as it is, is to get to the top, either by walking up steps or by scrambling. No queues either way. The photo takers have blocked one way to get up - ie walking up the steps - by turning the steps into an hour long selfie queue. Other routes are still available.

I read the BBC article and they made no apology whatsoever, and what they said about essentially queuing being optional was awful. What do they suggest, that everyone just gets their elbows out?
They might have had a different reception if they’d apologised and said that they were doing it for charity in a certain time.

@CountryShepherd I do something similar to you, and I agree it's definitely unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. However, yes there definitely ARE people who just want to undertake a challenge and give no fucks about the charity, it just virtue signalling to the point where even taking part with injuries/being injured during is a badge of honour. There's definitely a "culture" around charity challenges (and yes, sometimes charities know that and quite rightly take advantage of it because they need the cash it generate to do their work with homeless, sick people, dogs, etc whatever). I'm quite heartened to see someone call it out on here - well - several people in fact. I know one family extended family who spend several weekends a year doing these challenges and making sure everyone knows about it. They wouldn't be able to tell you a single thing about the charities they are raising money for.

Anyway, regardless of all that, its sounds like a made up queue, I imagine some don't even know what they are queuing for! And the men were right to ignore it, it's not the law, for whatever personal reason they were undertaking a charity event and wanted to get up and get it done ASAP. They could be absolute arseholes for all we know, but there is no reason whatsoever for the queue as many on here have explained.

I liked the days when there were no queues on hills and mountains and almost no one had a camera. There was also no litter. In the Peaks last year I saw a huge pile of discarded plastic bottles, I couldn’t pick them up as a sackful but informed a ranger. Too many people just do it for the likes these days. I am all for queuing and hate queue jumpers but on this occasion I don’t see a problem because I don’t want to wait while some prick takes ages getting their photo for their insta. Plus some have just got the train up so its hardly an achievement, it’s just buying a ticket.

The charity duo are now on BBC Breakfast moaning about the response they received on the mountain. Poor lambs.

They love the attention for sure.