AIBU to think booing the exhausted charity climbers was unfair?

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2 charity climbers booed ,because they went before the queue to touch the top!Had already done the 3 peaks challenge and were exhausted .A man physically tried to stop them by putting his hand out! YABU they should have waited .YANBU they should not have been booed

”It is horrible when you complete a very challenging and isolated walk and find a crowded summit.”

I’m no hill walker but even I would know that Snowdon in glorious weather on a bank holiday weekend is going to be busy and full of photo takers and tourists.

Other mountains are available if you want isolation…

Snowdon is the worst for this.
Most places are pretty quiet.

Why do you need to touch the trig point anyway? There is no rule that they have to touch the trig point to prove that they have climbed the mountain.

People climbed the mountain long before the trig point was there. They climbed it and walked down again and didn't need to be filmed/photographed.

There was a queue so the charity men should have not even touched the trig point in the first place. There was no need. The charity men are now moaning because they ignored these people waiting.

They didn't get the adulation they were expecting. The charity men are the snowflakes here.

It's not Thorpe Park. No supervision or instructions to queue. Serious walkers and runners just go up to the top, then carry on with their day. Over time the general public have evolved a queue so that they can go to the summit and take turns to pose, video and generally make prats of themselves trying to make it look as if they are on a mountain alone. Of course it was wrong to boo these blokes.

I don’t think it is though, because the whole article is pretty much about them moaning about being praised for their achievement.

And as others have said, these climbers didn’t need to touch the trig point to prove they’d climbed Snowdon and it should have been obvious to them that Snowdon would’ve been extremely busy on a bank holiday weekend!! I’ve got no sympathy for them at all.

If you want to say you've "done" Yr Wyddfa, then you can still do it, but think about doing it early morning or late evening, away from the crowds. I've run up late evening from Llanberis, and it's busy but you won't be queueing at the top like this

If you want to do mountain walking/running, there are better routes in Eryri. The Glyderau can also be busy from Ogwen valley, but there's loads of other peaks in the Carneddau, or a loop of Moel Eilio from Llanberis is a much quieter route.

The queue is ridiculous, the first time I saw it at the top of Yr Wyddfa I honestly had no idea what I was looking it. I've never seen it on any other mountain, other than perhaps a short queue to leap between Adam and Eve on top of Tryfan.

I think it only started because people are so desperate to get 'selfies'. If everyone just ran up the steps, touched the trig point and moved on it wouldn't ever form.

Don't forget that there's a train up Snowdon, so half the people queuing for a photo won't have actually climbed it at all.

I think it's more of a thing on Yr Wyddfa because the trig point is really much more prominent than it is on other mountains. If you don't go all the way up to it you are knocking a good 5-6m off your elevation gain for the day 😂Like doing Tryfan and not doing the leap.

The story is about people queuing for selfies and getting fucked off when other people do not do the same.

Like I say it's an example of the internet impinging on the real world. Why are those people queuing? For selfies. Why are they queuing for selfies in that particular place? Because internet algorithms have caused them to think this is necessary behaviour.

This is a real turnaround from even fifteen years ago, when people took photos to reflect the world as they saw it on the internet. Now the world, or at least particular corners of it, queue by queue, is being used to perpetuate algorithmic patterns which themselves are driven by advertising data and revenue. That's what the path up to Snowdon has now become.

Are we happy about this? I can't say I am.

Completely agree with this. My initial thought was how arrogant to think a queue doesn’t apply to you, I am very British re queuing and anyone trying to jump a queue. But a queue for the summit of a mountain which can be approached from 360 degrees because people are arsing about taking selfies - hell no.

At the end of reading all the posts since my first reply, I’m still torn because -

1. the climbers in question who did the three peaks sound twatty
2. the reason for the queue being there also sounds twatty

The problem is, because it’s not an official queue, there’s not guidance as to what it’s for. So it’s every person’s own guess as to whether it’s just for selfie takers or if “real” climbers must stand in it too.

I’m a bit worried now about going up Yr Wyddfa /Snowdon in the summer with my son who is an excellent walker and climber but has ADHD. There’s no way he could stand in an hour long queue but I’m not sure if he’ll be able to cope with the lack of closure of not just touching it for a second if other people seem to think it’s a thing. Don’t want to spend the rest of my life/ his childhood with him moaning that we didn’t “really” do it for the sake of a few metres!

I wonder if my neighbour would get cheered to the front of the queue in Tesco when she's shopping for the food kitchen? She gets really tired because it's hard work and she's nearly 80. She wears a fleece with the charity logo on. Guess we'll never know, because she'd never dream of trying it.

Have DD and I technically not climbed Yr Wyddfa as we didnt go all the way to the trig point?

Correct

That's for you to determine.

What's not for you or anyone else to determine is whether people have to queue to touch the trig - they don't.

Ahh the 3 peaks falicy.

Is this the same 3 peaks that needs the logistics to be on point. Minibus or similar driving between the sites?

Is this the same 3 Peaks that hardly anyone from the area does so its usually involves a long journey to get there?

Is this the same 3 Peaks that is famed for being a money earner for organisation companies who charge a big fee and bring little to the local economy?

Is this the same 3 Peaks that is causing issues with antisocial events (Like the main subject), antisocial parking, noise in early hours (More on this)?

Is this the same 3 Peaks which is causing quite a bit of wear and tear in the area?

I used to mountain bike in the area from time to time and never heard a good word from the local outdoor community about those doing the challenges

Most of the informed people schedule their efforts so they arrive at less busy times. In fact with the heat some do it when the sun isnt burning down. I suggest that there is a just a mix of self entitlement and grumpiness from the masses. There are similar challenges that could be done with less financial sacrifice that would be just as worthwhile.

That’s a silly comparison. It is more like your neighbour being booed for using the scan and pack in Tesco when other people are queuing
for tills.

Personally I think a queue for selfies to show that you got to the top of a mountain is grim and that anyone who wants to should be able to walk round, touch the trig point and head down again.

Well as they were taking video of the touching of the trigger your point is irrelevant.
They should have joined the queue the same as everyone else

It depends doesn’t it? If a new till opens to serve people in x circumstance and she fits that circumstance, is she skipping the queue by going there?

"needing" to touch a specific magic special place on the mountain or otherwise your climb doesn't count, is a completely logical and rationale thing to do.

I'd say it was the very opposite of logical and rational.

And if they were using a GoPro which runs continuously? No posing required?

Both can be twatty. That happens more often than not in real life. There isn’t always a goody and a baddie. They can be twats, that didn’t want to engage in a twatty activity (this time), who were met with twatty boos so they had a twatty moan to the papers.

They all suck.

No I am not a relative. Sorry I will try and make sure I link it next time

If a till opens for food kitchen workers and she goes there, then no. She is not taking anything away from regular queuers, as they can't use the special till anyway, and as it's an additional resource she is relieving pressure on the original one, making it shorter for regular queuers.