AIBU to think booing the exhausted charity climbers was unfair?

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2 charity climbers booed ,because they went before the queue to touch the top!Had already done the 3 peaks challenge and were exhausted .A man physically tried to stop them by putting his hand out! YABU they should have waited .YANBU they should not have been booed

I'm a stickler for queuing patiently and politely but you shouldn't have to queue just because someone has decided there's a queue - you should only ever queue for the primary 'thing' that is being offered. Eg, Snowdon is an open mountain to climb (or walk or sit on the train to), it's not a selfie station, so if people want to queue to take unobstructed selfies they need to wait until everyone just climbing to 'be there' has finished and gone (not going to happen I know!) rather than expect them to queue too - or just take your selfie with people in the background!

Similar example - if there was a pretty bridge I'd expect people only to queue to walk across it (if it was that busy), anyone wanting to stop to take selfies should wait for everyone else to go. Taking clear selfies is not an innate human right 😂

Agree.
His comment "There's no policing of it at all, it is purely free will, if you want to queue you can."

Firstly people aren't queuing for the thrill of it - if there wasnt some sort of organised system in place there would just be a desperate mass for the top which would be both dangerous and likely to be "won" by fit younger men like them, leaving older people/children/those with additional needs for whom reaching the top is even harder and more of an achievement to struggle.

Something doesnt have to be "policed" (ridiculous comment in its own right, does he really expect Pc plod to be stationed up the top of a mountain every day!) to be moral.

Secondly by his own logic, in exactly the same way as there is no "policing" of the queue there's no policing that you HAVE to have touched a special magic point to have been considered to climb the mountain. He's climbing for charity - is anyone really going to demand photographic proof or refuse to pay him because he only climbed 1085 metres rather than 1086? They climbed to the top, who actually cares if they "touched the trig" before climbing down?

As a pp said, most people are queuing for a photo AT the trig point rather than because they dont think it "counts" unless they touch it.

Arrogantly pushing past because you're judging everyone else for "queuing like its alton towers" (Im surprised they didn't refer to the other climbers as sheep) is always going to put people's backs up.

I wouldn't wait in a queue for people to take selfiies if I just wanted to get to the top either.

The queues are apparently sometimes over an hour wait, in general people are waiting to get their photo taken with the TRIG point. They wanted to use it for it's proper use and tap in.

It's timed, a 24hr challenge. Were other people timed who were waiting? No probably not, just there for a photo after climbing one mountain not 3. Just like people can park outside your house, people can also walk up past a queue and touch a trig point. Life was simpler without social media, no queues for photos, or the photo included other people who were milling around.

But there are no rules on this. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I think it’s arrogant to make a rule up and try and enforce it on others.

Having now read the article, I am even more certain the two gentlemen did nothing wrong.

There are two sets of people:

People queuing for a selfie

And

Serious climbers trying to reach a goal.

Somehow in this Insta/Facebook/Tiktok clout chasing times we live in, the selfie queuers have become the supposed gate keepers of the mountain peak.

Absolutely ridiculous. As well as dangerous in hot weather.

And improprietous. People should be able to discern the difference between a charity or serious mountain climber and a leisure climber.

This John Finnimore had a radio sketch show and did one asking to be sponsored for lying on the beach, previously it was skydiving!

I know of a local small charity that raises about £25k a year and spends £24k doing it but the organisers have a great time

Firstly people aren't queuing for the thrill of it - if there wasnt some sort of organised system in place there would just be a desperate mass for the top

It's not organised. What's happened is that the stepped access to the top has been taken over by morons who have created a queue there. If they weren't all buggering around taking selfies, people would be using the steps as they were intended to be used - for people who don't want to scramble to walk up, get to the top, drop down to where there's space, mill around a bit, enjoy the views, have a snack and some water etc. while those who didn't need the stepped access could do their thing away from the steps.

Agree I would just walk past them all, it's ridiculous

But no one actually cares do they whether it’s within the time or not. You certainly can’t expect other people on the hill to
give much of a shit. It’s an arbitrary time limit and matters outwith the control of the climbers can easily affect it. Would you ask for your donation back if it took them 25 hours to complete instead of 24.

I’ve just read the article and both men sound really selfish IMO.

I do understand they’re doing the challenge for a great cause, but they seem to put that over and above the needs of everyone else at the top of the mountain.

They both sound very entitled. They’re focused on their sunburn, them not having no shade and the discomfort the weather brought for them. Well, maybe choose another day to climb, or come better prepared! And please think about the other climbers who will also be feeling the same as you.

This article has really annoyed me!

I'm sorry, but in my experience way too many of these 'charity challenges' are personal jollies funded by other people.

Everyone else in the line was there for personal reasons, too. Just because they weren't 'publicly' declaring them for all to see doesn't make them just as important ... and they may have been dealing with their own stuff and their own exhaustion.

YABU

I can't really get worked up about what they did either way, but queuing to touch a summit would drive me insane. I'd just take a photo next to the queue and piss off.

The video totally exonerates them in my view, any of the people queueing could have done the same thing. There’s loads of space to climb up the ascent on Snowden - as you can literally see in the video.

They should have just walked up to the trig point then shouldn’t they 🤷🏻‍♀️

The people queuing are blocking the stepped access to the summit by making it into a queue for individual stylised photos. Sure they may have all manner of reasons for doing so, but they're in the way. People walking around this blockage that they've created are not the problem.

Exactly!

Exactly this.

I’m sorry but I’m not queuing.

The queue is for people wanting to get photos for insta. If you’re timing yourself or just want to get on with it then of course you can just walk past and touch the trig. People are insane!

Which is the opposite of what your first post said?

Are you the family or friends of one of the climbers or something? Also, it’s so easy to put a link here. Just add a link to your post as you would to a WhatsApp message, text or email.

I wouldn’t queue if I just wanted to touch the TRIG point either, that’s so daft.

i would not be walking up a moutain and then waiting for an hour in a Queue to get a photo, how utterly ridiculous. This is to British.

From the article:
"When I'm wearing a T-shirt that you can see what this person's hiking for... surely anybody at the summit of a mountain deserves a cheer and a well done?
"I was coming up feeling proud and then I'm being booed, so now I'm really angry and I'm not focused on being proud.

All I read was “Me me me me me”

They should have waited like everyone else.